Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Wins)

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed May 15, 2019 6:39 pm

/vote For tied overall MVP between me and jalandh

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Crimson97 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:40 pm

watchme1 wrote: Spoiler: Alrighty first up this was my first game in like 3-4 years so I apologise for how rusty I played this game. This game was the most fun I've had since like 4E cause I feel like I played a major contributor to the alignment I was in. Playing as escort reminded of the time I played consort back then but this time, it was to block evil from prevailing.

My playstyle I hoped to make was to play passive, making points about what other people said, maybe make a tinfoil or two but never actually lead the town into lynches etc. Guess that backfired completely when I pretty much lead the system wagon with my tinfoil on rbing him and no douses... Day 3 come and people hardclaiming power roles left right center, and ryanyb demanding to know who the other 'escort' was pretty much had to reveal at that point. That was the point I felt like I contributed the best in, organizing the role list as to who's who etc. Google's mishaps of failing to investigate n2 put my suspicions of him being scum even further cause no one should forget a night action whether it be your inactive or not. Espcially in an episode game where every night result counts.

Now I'm not going to lie, I played each night out after n2 pretty poorly. The N2 block on non was based off PKR's tinfoil, after 0ver flipped cit, I should have either blocked non or one of the other quiet cit claimers (e.g. Hereisme). Also PKR's tin foil on D2 would becomes realised to be true by the end of D3 when 0ver would be lynched... Instead I blocked the arsonist in the worry that witch would force ignite from him on N3. N4 comes around and idk what I was thinking, I didn't trust the arsonist at all to douse ryanyb and kept thinking, if he ignited, town would lose as at the end of the day it was 6v3v1 (I believe that was what it was at the time) When mafia gets a kill and arson ignites, it would be 4v3v1 leading to town's loss almost guaranteed. There was also no way I would be able to predict which mafia member would perform the kill. Day 5 comes around and I'm thinking we have this in the bag. D4 Google claimed hereisme was lookout/bmer/vet so we knew that non would be godfather after crimson flips witch, the last mafia being one of the 3 cit (we so thought). Our mistake here was not lynching hereisme first so we could confirm hereisme being bmer. Instead we lynch non instead. At the time I thought there'd be no difference but now I realise, lynching hereisme would prove Jal is Bmer. N5 comes around and I'm thinking that between Hereisme and the last mafia, who are they more likely to perform the kill on? So my logic here was , "oh why would they risk sending hereisme to perform the kill against an escort when the escort doesn't even know for sure who last mafia is?" so out of the 3 citizen claims, I believed ryanyb to be the scummiest thinking he was the last maf, hence why I chose to roleblock him n5. Turns out hereisme chose to perform the kill anyway *sigh*.

In the end it was just unlucky for town. Town killed itself literally in 3 days, 3 mislynches, 2 townies turning on each other. Soul had no reason to shoot harper, EvilD choosing to defend harper was a decent choice tbh (he seemed rather pro town in all honesty) but it turns out both mafia AND vig decided to shoot harper and evild was only able to defend against one which happened to be the vig *sigh*.

So many what ifs this game. If crimson didn't fuck up night 1, if Soul didn't shoot and just waited, if I roleblocked non/hereisme on respective nights, if Google had results or read the CORRECT results, if Jal didnt' play it out perfectly, this game could have gone in totally different direction. Also if people keep saying the best idea would be to lynch Arsonist day 3, you might be correct, it should be 100 times better to lynch confirmed scum over unconfirmed. But the 0ver lynch confirms several things. If 0ver was witch like Crimson said, Crimson would be investigator and non most likely cit. IF 0ver flipped cit, it would give town the information needed to lynch the following days.

Overall I look forward to playing more FM games in the future, and hopefully I don't perform as many throws as last time :oops:


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Spoiler: Most unlucky Townies - EvilD (guarding against vig), tfios (d1 bandwagon and apparently had her phone taken thus not being able to defend herself)
MVP Townies - PKR (probably the best tinfoil made), no one else tbh played "supremely" if you get what I mean
WTF Townies - Soul, Google, unlucky you could say but some of the decisions made by you two were questionable at the very least
Unlucky Mafia - HTG, getting witched targetted by your godfather n1 is just what else can I say, unlucky...
MVP Mafia - Jal, played it out so well, he hid himself into the RT slot very well, even convincing town to vote for non instead of hereisme to buy time, but honestly that was partly Google's fault.
MVP overall - Eragon, fought out each and every day even with the odds heavily stacked against his favor, he somehow managed to get a win. Up until he tried to claim a town power role, he looked very pro-town to me.


One last thing - If this was vanilla, I guarantee that I would not have contributed as much to reads and stuff etc. as I am piss poor at them, I'm more suited to standard role list where you use POE to determine who's who. :lol:

idk what you're talking about, i was clearly town's MVP.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby heytheregirl17 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Idk I feel like I could have put in some serious work D2 despite how many scumreads I drew early
But what else can I do, I have the worst luck with witches in my games
Last time I replaced in as an outed arsonist and attempted to visit the outed vet. Then I was witches... To the vet.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TheWabbit » Wed May 15, 2019 9:20 pm

Flake wrote:Why does anyone ever pick standard over vanilla lol losers

Can the next ep just forcibly be vanilla pls

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Watt2015 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 pm

TheWabbit wrote:
Flake wrote:Why does anyone ever pick standard over vanilla lol losers

Can the next ep just forcibly be vanilla pls

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Kmenx » Thu May 16, 2019 2:49 am

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HarperReed wrote:Eragon won in what is the epitome of a "stars aligned" scenario. Not to take credit from Eragon as Harper has said they completely destroyed the social game.

Town didn't play well this is true, but they didn't play wrong. That much Harper would attest to. The plan they used was efficient and in every other scenario than what transpired would have worked

Shall I refer to you every plan that has gone horribly wrong where a Town member has said exactly this? There are over a dozen buried in the huge stack of games here, bare minimum.

I'm just trying to emphasize that the pattern I've seen: if Town is in dire enough straits that they gamble on lynching anyone but the outted NK, this has resulted in a large number of the NK wins on this site.

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Kmenx » Thu May 16, 2019 2:50 am

The only reason not lynching Eragon failed was because Google gave the wrong results and confirmed Jalandh as town
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby 0verki11 » Thu May 16, 2019 5:21 am

Kmenx wrote:The only reason not lynching Eragon failed was because Google gave the wrong results and confirmed Jalandh as town

Nono
Jalandh was confirmed BMER or lookout.
He claimed a red check on a "Bmer" and then you decided lol out of curiosty lets just lynch this guy"
like lol wtf was that play you actually took away any chance of a win the moment you all decided to do that.
Its not even like they were truelly confirmed scum and honestly I would of laughed if Non flipped town there because it was make town realise how poorly they went around that situation
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby 0verki11 » Thu May 16, 2019 5:22 am

Flake wrote:
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TheWabbit wrote:
Flake wrote:Why does anyone ever pick standard over vanilla lol losers

Can the next ep just forcibly be vanilla pls

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then use 3p in the vfm ez

actually i take that back

No lets just put stalker in the VFM rolelist so people want to pick it.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Kmenx » Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 am

0verki11 wrote:
Kmenx wrote:The only reason not lynching Eragon failed was because Google gave the wrong results and confirmed Jalandh as town

Nono
Jalandh was confirmed BMER or lookout.
He claimed a red check on a "Bmer" and then you decided lol out of curiosty lets just lynch this guy"
like lol wtf was that play you actually took away any chance of a win the moment you all decided to do that.
Its not even like they were truelly confirmed scum and honestly I would of laughed if Non flipped town there because it was make town realise how poorly they went around that situation
Anyway im only joining episodes that have a 5 letter or more title so see you at XXIII .

I mean why are you telling me this I was literally the only one opposed to the Non lynch
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TheWabbit » Thu May 16, 2019 6:42 am

0verki11 wrote:
Kmenx wrote:The only reason not lynching Eragon failed was because Google gave the wrong results and confirmed Jalandh as town

Nono
Jalandh was confirmed BMER or lookout.
He claimed a red check on a "Bmer" and then you decided lol out of curiosty lets just lynch this guy"
like lol wtf was that play you actually took away any chance of a win the moment you all decided to do that.
Its not even like they were truelly confirmed scum and honestly I would of laughed if Non flipped town there because it was make town realise how poorly they went around that situation
Anyway im only joining episodes that have a 5 letter or more title so see you at XXIII .


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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Jalandh » Fri May 17, 2019 11:05 pm

Oi whats a man gotta do to get another person their flair :v
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:/vote For tied overall MVP between me and jalandh

/vote Jalandh for flair award



Oh what’s man gotta do to honor someone else for a hopefully maybe extra flair :v
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TheWabbit » Fri May 17, 2019 11:38 pm

i also deserve a neut flair for my effort
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Sat May 18, 2019 12:36 am

I deserve a spectator flair too right?
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby jucktropy » Sat May 18, 2019 2:40 am

Where is my MVP Cit then :/
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat May 18, 2019 5:53 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I deserve a spectator flair too right?

You weren't even a spectator what
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Sat May 18, 2019 8:37 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I deserve a spectator flair too right?

You weren't even a spectator what

I uh... erm... checked the thread now and then... that's enough right?
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Descender » Sat May 18, 2019 9:58 am

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TrueGent » Sun May 19, 2019 10:08 pm

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Kmenx » Mon May 20, 2019 10:12 am

TrueGent wrote:bad

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Seththeking » Thu May 23, 2019 3:29 pm

Could I get a flare?
If Eragon wasn’t active I would have replaced him. :)
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Watt2015 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:07 pm

Seththeking wrote:Could I get a flare?
If Eragon wasn’t active I would have replaced him. :)


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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Jalandh » Thu May 23, 2019 4:17 pm

Seththeking wrote:Could I get a flare?
If Eragon wasn’t active I would have replaced him. :)


If Eragon wasn't active, town wouldn't have gotten the plan he made that made mafia lose
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Thu May 23, 2019 4:36 pm

Watt2015 wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Could I get a flare?
If Eragon wasn’t active I would have replaced him. :)


James2 deserves a flair more than you do kiddo.

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