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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby polypies73 » Sat May 23, 2020 9:43 pm

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ARandomDouche » Sat May 23, 2020 11:10 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:@ARD
Why did you think primarily mechanically posting early was a good idea

That wasn't meant to sound as judgemental as it did but oh well

Because I theorised that the mafia might have made a rolelist that do not work together well or in a bad way, so that's why I did. The possible rolelist was just kinda there. I did not think of how early to post it, I just did it when it came to me.

It looks like fwog might be today's wagon so I'll do an ISO dive on him when given the time.
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun May 24, 2020 12:40 am

Chemist calling me out on my scumslip and then retracting it but still maintaining im scummy is gross. Coupled with his inability to develop any other push besides calling out Debil for his "tone" and his lack of content besides pop-ins to give throwaway notes warrant my curent vote
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun May 24, 2020 12:42 am

[poly/wabbit/douche/dota] towncore
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun May 24, 2020 12:45 am

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby polypies73 » Sun May 24, 2020 12:46 am

ManateeDude wrote:Someone engage me I need to talk

hello

is Ryan scum i need a professional opinion
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby polypies73 » Sun May 24, 2020 12:46 am

ManateeDude wrote:[poly/wabbit/douche/dota] towncore

i'll take that
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun May 24, 2020 12:47 am

polypies73 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Someone engage me I need to talk

hello

is Ryan scum i need a professional opinion


probably not his comment on people having to develop reads on him pings towny for now
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby polypies73 » Sun May 24, 2020 12:48 am

ManateeDude wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Someone engage me I need to talk

hello

is Ryan scum i need a professional opinion


probably not his comment on people having to develop reads on him pings towny for now

so who are the wolves then
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun May 24, 2020 12:58 am

polypies73 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:Someone engage me I need to talk

hello

is Ryan scum i need a professional opinion


probably not his comment on people having to develop reads on him pings towny for now

so who are the wolves then


Chemist/Sparking/Ejj
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun May 24, 2020 1:18 am

TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:uzay choosing to ignore a check on their read is just lul

Which post?

TheWabbit wrote:why the fuck would you call someone towny if you think they're wolfy

this would be either 13d chess or an excuse to justify a noncommittal read

not quoted so there's leeway


UzayAltay wrote:-snip-
TheWabbit wrote:why the fuck would you call someone towny if you think they're wolfy

this would be either 13d chess or an excuse to justify a noncommittal read

Think twtbaw context
You are calling somebody wolfy for thinking they are town, right ?
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 24, 2020 1:46 am

ManateeDude wrote:Chemist calling me out on my scumslip and then retracting it but still maintaining im scummy is gross. Coupled with his inability to develop any other push besides calling out Debil for his "tone" and his lack of content besides pop-ins to give throwaway notes warrant my curent vote

sure
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:12 am

UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:uzay choosing to ignore a check on their read is just lul

Which post?

TheWabbit wrote:why the fuck would you call someone towny if you think they're wolfy

this would be either 13d chess or an excuse to justify a noncommittal read

not quoted so there's leeway


UzayAltay wrote:-snip-
TheWabbit wrote:why the fuck would you call someone towny if you think they're wolfy

this would be either 13d chess or an excuse to justify a noncommittal read

Think twtbaw context
You are calling somebody wolfy for thinking they are town, right ?

what the fuck
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 24, 2020 3:13 am

ARandomDouche wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:IC can reveal at any time Douche

Dammit, I should haven't skimmed over the rolecards.

ARandomDouche wrote:Alright first of all, lets consider some of the possible power roles chosen individually before we get to the 24 60 possible combinations.

Innocent Child
Not possible, we can rule this out. IC would reduce the PoE assuming they are assumed scum. Since IC is unclaimable and once reveals will be a prime candidate for protection from the Jailkeeper. However, that can both ways. Either by having the Jailkeeper focus on the IC, so that mafia locked down 2 PRs, or by eliminating Jailkeeper and going straight for the kill.

Cop
The Cop is pretty weak in this case as it only has 1 shot. However this could be used in order to reduce the PoE, the cop claims since he is now basically a Citizen. This could potentially be a powerful role as it could resolve a game by a day. Scum might want to opt out of this one.

Tracker
The Tracker is very situational as it only sees the target's visit. If scum were to include this, they might choose to have all other PRs with a visiting ability, such as JK or the Vigilante. I'm pretty convinced that if this were to be included , Vigilante would be too. This is so in the case Tracker targeted the Vigilante, he would claim that the target had visited someone, killing them.

Vigilante
Another role that can reduce the PoE, but by killing them. This reduces the time required for the mafia to win, of course a competent Vigilante would be able to kill scum. Or worst yet, scum managed to get caught out by in lie, and is presumably shot the following night. It might not be required for a Vigilante to exist with a Tracker, but a Tracker will likely exist with a Vigilante.

Jailkeeper
Most likely useful for endgame where he can lock up the scum reliably or its targets. If this were the case, it would be wise for scum to hunt them down. I feel like this a pretty likely role to be picked in the hands of a competent scum team.

IMO, most likely combination: Tracker, Vigilante, Jailkeeper.

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:13 am

fwogcarf wrote:Hey I'm Wabbit and let's play the "Respond to every post in the game" game.

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:14 am

fwogcarf wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:{ManateeDude, dota2reporter, ARandomDouche, SparkingJayYT, Chemist1422}
{ejjinami, TheDebil, UzayAltay, polypies73, fwogcarf, xXIllegalPotatoXx, ryanyb}

absolutely nothing happened except the dota and poly switch
boo

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now if you want the premium version thatll be a payment of 10000 town points annually

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:14 am

fwogcarf wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:Hey I'm Wabbit and let's play the "Respond to every post in the game" game.

God dammit i lost

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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:16 am

TheDebil wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:{ManateeDude, dota2reporter, ARandomDouche, SparkingJayYT, Chemist1422}
{ejjinami, TheDebil, UzayAltay, polypies73, fwogcarf, xXIllegalPotatoXx, ryanyb}

absolutely nothing happened except the dota and poly switch
boo

there's little workaround about this atm except maybe ejji and ryan should winds change, maybe poly to a lesser degree

debil's just sad
uzay's ARD wolfread is still ??? and their thought process (after painfully skimming) is just scattered
fwog just never leaves PoE
potato's a complete potato; walking through stages of grief is ??? and so are their ISO dived reads but there's town equity in posts plus probably LHF which makes me not sold on locking them town/wolf

calling me sad just feels like you have me null and dont want to make a tier in the middle

there's no middle tier in PoE
you're either in or out

have you as "just sad" because nothing you've done is exemplary or at least something that warrants you a townlean but you haven't exhibited your wolftells
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:16 am

polypies73 wrote:am i the top wagon yet

iseveryone being wagoned gonna act like this
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:17 am

if so i'll just blast the next person to make such comment on their own wagon
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:17 am

ARandomDouche wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:@ARD
Why did you think primarily mechanically posting early was a good idea

That wasn't meant to sound as judgemental as it did but oh well

Because I theorised that the mafia might have made a rolelist that do not work together well or in a bad way, so that's why I did. The possible rolelist was just kinda there. I did not think of how early to post it, I just did it when it came to me.

It looks like fwog might be today's wagon so I'll do an ISO dive on him when given the time.

ignore mechtalk, we're kinda done with that

what makes you think fwog is today's wagon?
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:18 am

ManateeDude wrote:Chemist calling me out on my scumslip and then retracting it but still maintaining im scummy is gross. Coupled with his inability to develop any other push besides calling out Debil for his "tone" and his lack of content besides pop-ins to give throwaway notes warrant my curent vote

when did this happen
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Re: VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| (Day 1)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:19 am

ManateeDude wrote:[poly/wabbit/douche/dota] towncore

poly being simultaneously read highly as town and wolf is interesting
can't say if it does something for their alignment but i'll take a loot at them soon.tm
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