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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby EyeOfTheTiger » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 pm

noice art.
good game, y'all. and thanks, blacka, was brilliant to have ya as a host again.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Blackajack » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:27 pm

EyeOfTheTiger wrote:noice art.
good game, y'all. and thanks, blacka, was brilliant to have ya as a host again.


It was so good to finally get to host again! I always loved the design of this game. It was mafia but with less reliable prediction; far more interesting.

I am currently investigating whether anyone would want me to host another game, specifically a test game. I want to investigate certain mechanics that could probably be removed from the game and make the game more sleek as a result.

Thank you for taking part too. You are all part of this game too!
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - (1/15)

Postby destawaits » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 pm

BRVR wrote:
destawaits wrote:I managed to survive for this long because I didn't know how my role worked

What was it

MAA

Was sturgeon soldier

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - (1/15)

Postby Blackajack » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:48 pm

destawaits wrote:
BRVR wrote:
destawaits wrote:I managed to survive for this long because I didn't know how my role worked

What was it

MAA

Was sturgeon soldier


Sturgeon was indeed soldier. Role list on the page below the winning post.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby JazzMusicStops » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 pm

gonna link my logs here instead of just copying shit over

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bHcGUDCOXPOzj8kSnl7r-eZjpvu402xWw05T5kXeoLo/edit?usp=sharing

I kept these with intent to get killed off in the midgame and sow havok but i kinda did better than expected
And you may say to yourself, "My God! What have I done?"

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - (1/15)

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 pm

destawaits wrote:
BRVR wrote:
destawaits wrote:I managed to survive for this long because I didn't know how my role worked

What was it

MAA

Was sturgeon soldier

>:c
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby JazzMusicStops » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:51 pm

I got one kill though which is all I really wanted going into this game
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby JazzMusicStops » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:52 pm

TLDR I knew Direwolf was CJ because he was a high duelist that had made an even number of duel/dance challenges

Turns out when you can completely eliminate the possibility of Blacksmith/Musician you can catch people really easily
And you may say to yourself, "My God! What have I done?"

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby EyeOfTheTiger » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:55 pm

JazzMusicStops wrote:TLDR I knew Direwolf was CJ because he was a high duelist that had made an even number of duel/dance challenges

Turns out when you can completely eliminate the possibility of Blacksmith/Musician you can catch people really easily

peasant best role :BlobTea:
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:59 pm

JazzMusicStops wrote:TLDR I knew Direwolf was CJ because he was a high duelist that had made an even number of duel/dance challenges

Turns out when you can completely eliminate the possibility of Blacksmith/Musician you can catch people really easily

That’s why I love blacksmith tbh
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - (1/15)

Postby destawaits » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:19 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
destawaits wrote:
BRVR wrote:
destawaits wrote:I managed to survive for this long because I didn't know how my role worked

What was it

MAA

Was sturgeon soldier

>:c

Why

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Re: Behind the Mask: Episode 12 - Voting Phase 1 (14/15)

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:12 pm

destawaits wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
destawaits wrote:
BRVR wrote:
destawaits wrote:I managed to survive for this long because I didn't know how my role worked

What was it

MAA

Was sturgeon soldier

>:c

Why

Blackajack wrote:The Eagle takes a moment to stretch their bones and treat their bruises in the comfort of their room.

The past defeats had been difficult for the Eagle to accept; the Snake was just too good. With such high stakes on the line, losing at a time like this was unacceptable. Regardless, this game was not over. Not by a long shot - the game had just begun. That's at least what he was thinking as he washed his leg in a small water basin, courtesy of the court. One can imagine the immense costs of this entire 'game'.

As the Eagle finishes treating what remains of his bruises, he begins to hear footsteps, hard and firm, originating from outside his door. No surprise with the sleek wooden floors. As the Eagle turns to face the door to meet his supposed 'guest', the floor suddenly begins to cease creaking as the heavy sound of footsteps begins to increase in pace and volume. Naturally, the Eagle sense something wrong and moves to rise from the water basin only for the door to suddenly open with heavy force.

In one moment, there was only one in the room. And in the next, there was only one in the room. For by the time that moment was done, a gunshot had rung out from the room as the unfamiliar smell of gunpowder fills the air. A small iron ball, placed perfectly below the nostrils, had shattered the Eagle's jaw. And as their head fell back, bone seeping into the lung and eyes searching frantically, the last thing the Eagle sees is a brown-cloaked figure with a flintlock pistol in their hands and a strangely familiar mask on their face...


The Eagle has been murdered!

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:07 pm

didnt know that if your challenge gets denied you die if blackmailed
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Bluedetroyer » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:09 pm

dota2reporter wrote:didnt know that if your challenge gets denied you die if blackmailed

I mean, yes, bmer is indeed actually capable of killing anyone with a brain
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Cenvil2 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:00 pm

EyeOfTheTiger wrote:
JazzMusicStops wrote:TLDR I knew Direwolf was CJ because he was a high duelist that had made an even number of duel/dance challenges

Turns out when you can completely eliminate the possibility of Blacksmith/Musician you can catch people really easily

peasant best role :BlobTea:

Only if you are not screwed by the host.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:13 pm

Oof dota done diddly got blackmailed.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Cenvil2 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:19 pm

Blackajack wrote:Modrant

Generally:
    Game went mostly well.
    Made some mistakes.
    Some parts of the game frustrated me from it's design, mainly from what it mentions and what it doesn't. (This is primarily caused by myself for not being specific enough)

Specific points

Knight
Big wording issues as to whether Colosseum can be used when the knight is dead. In this example the user used the Colosseum right before getting executed. Nothing against the rolecard that says otherwise, but I don't think that should happen.

Court Jester
I hate moderating for court jester. The randomised aspect of it just makes it a pain to manage from the moderators POV.

Timed phases
Worked out rather well actually. Few times I had to extend but its good that you have the luxury available to you. We didn't have any drop outs or AFKs.

Death posts
Too strong. Won't run it again. No last will either.


Yeah the design could be a little bit more clear. I usually tends to asks the host how they handle some specific roles, or if they did not make any mistake when I get a little confused.

About the points.
I never run Knight, but if I do, I will highlight that it can issue the phase only at DP. (yeah, it downgrades a little, but come on, killing just because you are salty is not the point of the game, you should bet something on the line at least)

CJ.
I never had complications about CJs. (saying as I run already two CJs in the same game so I know what I am talking about, where I also had the issue how I compare them to each other if they get the same placement.)
And I love playing as CJ so I dont want to it removed.
A little trick which might help if you run it again.
Instead of randomizing numbers, you could easily just put below x role and the top of the list in your generator, which erase the confusion both in you and in the player as well.
And its an easy fix in spreadsheet or Excel too if you use alphabetic order in your challenges, you just write that role's number and an x,1 as the CJ's indicator. (or 0 if its the top.)

I agree on the rest.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Cenvil2 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:37 pm

dota2reporter wrote:didnt know that if your challenge gets denied you die if blackmailed


Ehh.
It is also part of the bad design.
It should be "take part in a challenge" not "make a challenge" or we just using it pretty damn wrong, which I highly doubt as Blackajack is the main creator of BTM and blackmailer is a role since BTM 2.
(Oh right, Black just simply copied EP 7, the rolecard has the correct form in the BTM Hub)
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Blackajack » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:47 am

Cenvil2 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:didnt know that if your challenge gets denied you die if blackmailed


Ehh.
It is also part of the bad design.
It should be "take part in a challenge" not "make a challenge" or we just using it pretty damn wrong, which I highly doubt as Blackajack is the main creator of BTM and blackmailer is a role since BTM 2.
(Oh right, Black just simply copied EP 7, the rolecard has the correct form in the BTM Hub)


Yeah my bad. I think a lot of the roles just need more clarification.
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby JazzMusicStops » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:48 am

EyeOfTheTiger wrote:
JazzMusicStops wrote:TLDR I knew Direwolf was CJ because he was a high duelist that had made an even number of duel/dance challenges

Turns out when you can completely eliminate the possibility of Blacksmith/Musician you can catch people really easily

peasant best role :BlobTea:

You're right
And you may say to yourself, "My God! What have I done?"

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby destawaits » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:15 pm

So... do we get rewards

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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Blackajack » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:39 pm

destawaits wrote:So... do we get rewards


A sense of pride and accomplishment?
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby sunfirejr » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:09 pm

can't believe no one noticed my terrible pun on the last page
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:13 pm

sunfirejr wrote:can't believe no one noticed my terrible pun on the last page

Oh I noticed it I just didn't react to it because that'd have physically hurt me
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Re: Behind the Masks: Episode 12 - GAME OVER! Blackmailer Wi

Postby destawaits » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:14 am

Wait, this is my second 3rd place; the first time I got 3rd place was my first game

Gotta try harder

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