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ECO: Encyclopædia of Controversial Occurrences (Retired)

Postby RockFire » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:58 pm

ECO: Encyclopædia of Controversial Occurrences
Below are some questions posed to FM moderators about their set of rules for each game. We all run our games differently and we hope this guide will resolve some confusion. Other FM moderators are free to edit this post to fill out how they handle each situation.


Before using this guide, keep in mind the following:
  • GFM will be run under Obiwan's rules.
  • CFM will be run under the co-moderator's rules.
  • Any game run by FMbot (work in progress) will be run under the rules of the respective game moderator's rules.
  • A game moderator may change their rules over time, but shall run each individual game with a consistent set of rules.
  • If a * is by the role, this means there is an unanswered question by one or more moderators under that role.
Town

Doctor
Spoiler: Do doctors heal one attack or all of them? (Healed target would die if both Godfather and Serial Killer attack)
Metrion: All attacks.
TrueGent: All attacks.
Melanora: Doctors heal all attacks.
Swordsworth: Doctors heal all attacks.
Santa07: Doctors heal all attacks.
moonbird: Doctors heal all attacks.
Schultz128: All attacks

Are attackers informed of immunity if they hit a healed target?
Metrion: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked thus attackers are informed of immunity.
TrueGent: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked thus attackers are informed of immunity.
Melanora: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked thus attackers are informed of immunity.
Swordsworth: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked and attackers shall be informed of immunities.
Santa07: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked and attackers shall be informed of immunities.
moonbird: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked and attackers shall be informed of immunities.
Schultz128: Yes, being healed occurs after being attacked and attackers shall be informed of immunities.

If two Doctors heal the same person who is attacked, what happens? (Who receives notifications? Both doctors, and the attacked player is told they were healed twice? Only one Doctor, and if yes, which?)
Metrion: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
TrueGent: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
Melanora: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
Swordsworth: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
Santa07: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
moonbird: Both doctors receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.
Schultz128: Both receive a notification. The attacked target is only notified of a single heal.

Which takes priority when protecting the same target, Doctor or Marshal?
Metrion: The Marshal sp00ks the attacker first.
TrueGent: The Marshal.
Melanora: The Marshal.
Swordsworth: The Marshal.
Santa07: The Marshal.
moonbird: The Marshal.
Schultz128: Marshal.

If a killing role attacks someone who is guarded and healed, which takes priority?
Metrion: The guard.
TrueGent: The guard.
Melanora: The guard.
Swordsworth: The guard.
Santa07: The guard.
moonbird: The guard.
Schultz128: The guard


Bodyguard
Spoiler: Do bodyguards get a death note?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes, if they are in play.
moonbird: Yes, if death notes are in play.
Schultz128: Yes, if they're in play.

If the Bodyguard successfully guards someone, can they be healed by a Doctor?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.

If a killing role attacks someone who is guarded, can they be healed by a Doctor?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.

If a killing role attacks someone who is guarded and healed, which takes priority?
Metrion: The guard.
TrueGent: The guard.
Melanora: The guard.
Swordsworth: The guard.
Santa07: The guard.
moonbird: The guard.
Schultz128: The guard.

Which takes priority when protecting the same target, Bodyguard or Marshal?
Metrion: The Bodyguard.
TrueGent: The BG.
Melanora: The Marshal.
Swordsworth: The Bodyguard.
Santa07: The Marshal.
moonbird: The Bodyguard. Maximum carnage.
Schultz128: The Bodyguard.

If multiple killing roles attack someone who is guarded (sk and mafia, arsonist and sk, mafia and arson, etc), which will die?
Metrion: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
TrueGent: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Melanora: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Swordsworth: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Santa07: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
moonbird: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Schultz128: Vigilante > Double > Mafia > Serial Killer > Arsonist



Marshal
Spoiler: If a Marshal chooses to protect an Escort, and a Witch forces said Escort onto the Marshal, what happens?
Metrion: The Marshal would be roleblocked from the witched Escort.
TrueGent: The Witch would be scared off by the Marshal.
Melanora: The witch would be scared off by the Marshal.
Swordsworth: The Witch would be scared off by the Marshal
Santa07: The Witch would be scared off by the Marshal
moonbird: The Witch would be scared off by the Marshal.
Schultz128: The Witch gets ganked.

Which takes priority when protecting the same target, Doctor or Marshal?
Metrion: The Marshal.
TrueGent: The Marshal.
Melanora: The Marshal
Swordsworth: The Marshal
Santa07: The Marshal
moonbird: The Marshal shall.
Schultz128: Marshal.

Which takes priority when protecting the same target, Bodyguard or Marshal?
Metrion: The Bodyguard.
TrueGent: The BG.
Melanora: The Marshal.
Swordsworth: The Bodyguard.
Santa07: The Marshal.
moonbird: The Bodyguard.
Schultz128: The Bodyguard

If multiple roles target someone who is protected by a marshal (sk and mafia, arsonist and sk, mafia and arson, etc), which will be scared away?
Metrion: Disguiser > Framer > Prankster > Janitor > Escort > Consort > Witch > Arsonist > Double > Vigilante > Mafia Kill > Serial Killer (RNG decides between duplicates)
TrueGent: Janitor > Prankster > Disguiser > Framer > Escort > Consort > Witch > Vigilante > Double > Mafia Kill > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Melanora: Prankster > Disguiser > Janitor > Framer > Escort > Consort > Witch > Double > Vigilante > Mafia Attacker > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Swordsworth: Prankster > Disguiser > Janitor > Framer > Escort > Consort > Witch > Vigilante > Double > Mafia Kill > Serial Killer > Arsonist
Santa07: Prankster > Disguiser > Framer > Janitor > Escort > Consort > Witch > Vigilante > Double > Mafia Attacker > Serial Killer> Arsonist
moonbird: Prankster > Disguiser > Janitor > Framer > Escort > Consort > Witch > Vigilante > Double > Mafia Kill > Serial Killer > Arsonist

If a malicious person is scared by a Marshal, will a Lookout see the scared players visit?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.


Lookout
Spoiler: If a malicious person is scared by a Marshal, will a Lookout see the scared players visit?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: This was just answered but no.

If a Lookout sees no one visit, are they informed in their day start PM?
Metrion: No
TrueGent: Yes
Melanora: Yes
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: No, considering the possibility of Ninja type roles.


Spy
Spoiler: If the Spy is roleblocked, will they still see who the mafia visits at night?
Metrion: Nope.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: Who the hell uses Spy? No.

If a mafia member is scared by a Marshal, will the Spy see their visit?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.


Escort
Spoiler: If the Escort roleblocks a Witch or other roleblock-immune role, will they be informed that their roleblock has failed?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.

If you are roleblocked twice in the same night, will you get the "You were roleblocked" message twice?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.


Transporter
Spoiler: Can death by Jester-haunting be transported to another player?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.

If a transporter makes an Arsonist target themself:
Metrion: The Arsonist will ignite.
TrueGent: The Arsonist will ignite.
Melanora: The Arsonist will ignite.
Swordsworth: The Arsonist ignites.
Santa07: The Arsonist will ignite.
moonbird: The Arsonist will ignite.
Schultz128: The Arsonist will ignite.


Retributionist
Spoiler: If a witch controls the Retributionist onto a target meant to die the same night:
Metrion: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
TrueGent: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
Melanora: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
Swordsworth: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to the town.
Santa07: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to the town.
moonbird: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only town can be revived.
Schultz128: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only town can be revived.

Can cleaned roles be revived?
Metrion: Yes, however if they are not Town the revive fails.
TrueGent: Yes, however if they are not Town the revive fails.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: Yes, provided they are town.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: Yes, but only if they are town.
Schultz128: Yes, but only if they are town.

Are revived players still doused if they were doused before they died?
Metrion: Unless they were ignited previously.
TrueGent: Yes, unless they were ignited previously.
Melanora: Yes, unless they were ignited previously.
Swordsworth: Yes, unless they were ignited previously.
Santa07: Yes, unless they were ignited previously.
moonbird: Yes, unless they were ignited previously.
Schultz128: Yes unless ignited beforehand.

Does reviving a Jailor or Vigilante refill their charges and/or remove guilt?
Metrion: The player will still have the same number of charges left as when they died, guilt is removed.
TrueGent: The player will still have the same number of charges left as when they died, guilt is removed.
Melanora: The player will still have the same number of charges left as when they died, guilt is removed.
Swordsworth: Revived players will retain their original charge upon death. Guilt is removed.
Santa07: The player will still have the same number of charges left as when they died, guilt is removed.
moonbird: The player will still have the same number of charges left as when they died, but guilt is removed.
Schultz128: Same amount of charges from when they died, guilt removed.


Veteran
Spoiler: Do alerts prevent transporting the Veteran?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No, but the Transporter will die.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: No, but the Transporter will die.
Schultz128: No.


Firebrand
Spoiler: Can the Arsonist clean off gas if they were doused by a Firebrand?
Metrion: No
TrueGent: Yes
Melanora: No
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.


Mayor
Spoiler: What happens when a non-mayor reveals?
Metrion: Their rolecard is exchanged for that of the Mayor's, and they become the new Mayor.
TrueGent: The player is vanillaized for attempting to outplay the system.
Melanora: Babynora eats you.
Swordsworth: Did you vote for them in November?
Santa07: The forums get deleted, and this time it wasn't Nelly's fault.
moonbird: It forces a re-roll, of course.
Schultz128: Who actually runs Power Roles?
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Re: ECO: Encyclopædia of Controversial Occurences

Postby RockFire » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:39 pm

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Godfather/Mafioso
Spoiler: Can you choose to attack mafia at night?
Metrion: Yes, only if it can be proven as not game throwing and everyone agrees.
TrueGent: Yes, as long as there is an explanation, and the entire mafia consents.
Melanora: Yes, as long as it is not game throwing and the victim mafia consents.
Swordsworth: Yes, should ALL mafia consent and provide a legitimate reason.
Santa07: Yes, only if it can be proven as not game throwing and everyone agrees.
moonbird: Yes, if the moderator approves and the entire mafia agrees.
Schultz128: Yes, as long as there's an explantaion and consent from the entire mafia.


Consort
Spoiler: If the consort carries out the tactical kill, is it still roleblock immune?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.


Janitor
Spoiler: Can the Janitor choose to clean them self at night?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.

Can cleaned roles be remembered by an Amnesiac?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: Yes.

Can cleaned roles be revived by a Retributionist?
Metrion: Yes, however if they are not Town the revive fails.
TrueGent: Yes, however if they are not Town the revive fails.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: Yes, but the revive fails on nontown.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: Yes, but only Town can be revived.
Schultz128: Yes, fails if not Town.

What happens if a janitor cleans a phantom who used a ritual?
Metrion: Nothing.
TrueGent: The Janitor is told that their target was cleaned and did not have a last will. Strange.
Melanora: The Janitor's charge is consumed. Nothing else.
Swordsworth: A charge is consumed.
Santa07: The Janitor is told that their target was cleaned and did not have a last will. A charge is still consumed.
moonbird: A charge is consumed. The Janitor is told that their target was cleaned, did not have a last will, and that their target was a Phantom.Schultz128: Nothing.


Disguiser
Spoiler: When controlled by a witch, will the Disguiser still disguise?
Metrion: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
TrueGent: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
Melanora: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
Swordsworth: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
Santa07: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
moonbird: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
Schultz128: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.


Prankster
Spoiler: What happens if you prank a roleblocked player who attempted to use a limited ability (Vig bullet, doc self heal, etc) that they slept peacefully?
Metrion: What Schultz said.
TrueGent: You may only check how many shots of an ability you have during a phase in which you can use it.
Melanora: The player can check how many of their limited used abilites they have during the phase it is used.
Swordsworth: A role with limited use abilities can check how many they have left during the relevant phase.
Santa07: You may only check how many shots of an ability you have during a phase in which you can use it. If they try to use an ability when they have run out of shots, it will obviously fail.
moonbird: Yiy may check how many shots remain of that ability in a phase where it can be used.
Schultz128: You may only check how many shots of an ability you have during a phase in which you can use it.
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Re: ECO: Encyclopædia of Controversial Occurences

Postby RockFire » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:39 pm

Neutrals

Serial Killer
Spoiler: Can you choose to visit yourself?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: 12F.jpg (Yes).


Arsonist
Spoiler: If a transporter makes you target yourself:
Metrion: You will ignite.
TrueGent: You will ignite.
Melanora: You will ignite.
Swordsworth: You will ignite.
Santa07: You will ignite.
moonbird: You will ignite.
Schultz128: You will ignite.

If a witch makes an Arsonist target them self:
Metrion: The Arsonist ignites.
TrueGent: The Arsonist ignites.
Melanora: The Arsonist ignites.
Swordsworth: The Arsonist ignites.
Santa07: The Arsonist ignites.
moonbird: The Arsonist ignites.
Schultz128: The Arsonist ignites.

Are revived players still doused if they were doused before they died?
Metrion: Unless they were previously ignited.
TrueGent: Yes, unless they were previously ignited.
Melanora: Yes, unless they were previously ignited.
Swordsworth: Yes, unless they died by ignition.
Santa07: Yes, unless they were previously ignited.
moonbird: Yes, unless they died by ignition.
Schultz128: Yes, unless they were previously ignited.

If you are doused twice in the same night, will you get the "You were doused" message twice?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.

Can the Arsonist clean off gas if they were doused by a Firebrand?
Metrion: No
TrueGent: Yes
Melanora: No
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.


Stalker
Spoiler: Can you choose to visit yourself?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes


Bomber
Spoiler: After a fuse has been lit, can the Bomber keep visiting to place more fuses?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.

Can you choose to visit yourself?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes.
moonbird: Yes.
Schultz128: Yes.

List of Fuse Triggers
Not Attacked = Fuse unharmed
Attacked in jail = Fuse unharmed
BodyGuard fights off one attacker = Fuse unharmed
Executed by Jailor = Fuse unharmed
Burned by Arsonist = Fuse unharmed
Stalked by Stalker = Fuse unharmed
Second Bomber Fuse = Fuse unharmed
Lynch = Fuse unharmed
Shot by the Mafia = Broken fuse
Shot by Vigilante = Broken fuse
Shot by Veteran = Broken fuse
Attacked by BodyGuard = Broken fuse
Killed protecting your target = Broken fuse
Stabbed by a Serial Killer = Broken fuse
Double attacks a target = Broken fuse
Doused by an Arsonist = Broken fuse
Doctor heals while shot by Mafia = Broken fuse
Doctor heals while shot by Veteran = Broken fuse
Doctor heals while shot by Vigilante = Broken fuse
Doctor heals while stabbed by Serial Killer = Broken fuse
Doctor heals while doused by an Arsonist = Broken fuse
Suicide by Jester = Broken fuse
Suicide by Stalker = Broken fuse
Suicide by Guilt = Broken fuse
Attacked while wearing a vest = Broken fuse


Jester
Spoiler: Can a Jester have a death note?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: Yes.
Melanora: Yes.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: Yes, if they are in play.
moonbird: Yes, if they are in play.
Schultz128: Sure.

Can death by Jester-haunting be transported to another player?
Metrion: No.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: No.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: No.

Can a Jester choose not to haunt? How is it resolved if they choose not to?
Metrion: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide.
TrueGent: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide.'
Melanora: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide and the Jester may not receive the win.
Swordsworth: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide and the Jester may not win.
Santa07: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide and the Jester may not win.
moonbird: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide.
Schultz128: A Jester must haunt. If a Jester does not choose a target, RNG will decide and the Jester loses.


Executioner
Spoiler: If your target is lynched after you are dead:
Metrion: The Executioner still loses.
TrueGent: The Executioner loses.
Melanora: The Executioner loses.
Swordsworth: The Executioner still loses.
Santa07: The Executioner still loses.
moonbird: The Executioner still loses.
Schultz128: The Executioner still loses.


Witch
Spoiler: If a witch makes a Veteran target them self:
Metrion: The Witch forces an alert if the Veteran still has alerts left, killing themselves.
TrueGent: The Witch forces an alert if the Veteran still has alerts left, killing themselves.
Melanora: The Witch forces an alert if the Veteran still has alerts left, killing themselves.
Swordsworth: The Witch forces an alert should the Veteran still have any, killing themselves.
Santa07: The Witch forces an alert should the Veteran still have any, killing themselves.
moonbird: The Witch forces an alert if the Veteran still has any alerts left, killing themselves.
Schultz128: Death to the Witch.

If a witch makes an Arsonist target themself:
Metrion: The Arsonist ignites.
TrueGent: The Arsonist ignites.
Melanora: The Arsonist ignites.
Swordsworth: The Arsonist ignites.
Santa07: The Arsonist ignites.
moonbird: The Arsonist ignites.
Schultz128: The Arsonist ignites.

If a witch controls the Retributionist onto a target meant to die the same night:
Metrion: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
TrueGent: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
Melanora: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
Swordsworth: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only for town.
Santa07: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only applicable to Townies.
moonbird: The target meant to die will have their will/role shown, but then instantly revived. Only Town can be revived.

When controlled by a witch, will the Disguiser still disguise?
Metrion: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
TrueGent: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
Melanora: The Disguiser's second target will be the witch's victim target.
Swordsworth: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
Santa07: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
moonbird: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.
Schultz128: The Disguiser's second target will be the Witch's victim target.


Double
Spoiler: What happens if a Double attacks a Phantom or Shade using a Ritual?
Metrion: The Double assumes the Phantom or Shade's role.
TrueGent: The Double assumes the Phantom or Shade's role.
Melanora: The Double wastes their shot and dies.
Swordsworth: The Double assumes the role.
Santa07: The Double wastes their shot and dies.
moonbird: The Double assumes the role.
Schultz128: Double receives their role.


Amnesiac
Spoiler: Can cleaned roles be remembered?
Metrion: Yes.
TrueGent: No.
Melanora: No.
Swordsworth: Yes.
Santa07: No.
moonbird: No.
Schultz128: Yes.


Vampire
Spoiler: Add it?
Obiwan: Damn it Rick Iggy
Arcthurus: *Thumbs up*
Iggyvolz: YAAAAAAAAAAS
Metrion: Iggy stahp.
TrueGent: Iggy why. :c
Melanora: What's a Vampire?
Swordsworth: Only if we add Alternate Futures
Santa07: Nice meme
moonbird: i don't know this man
Schultz128: Vampire for FM Mod.
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