GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Waffleme3 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:04 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

I was an aweful godfather, died day 2 since i was role blocked and LOF conered himself by defending me.

I failed so bad
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby LordofFail » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:09 pm

waffleme3 wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

I was an aweful godfather, died day 2 since i was role blocked and LOF conered himself by defending me.

I failed so bad


Yep pretty much. The Citizen claim didnt help either. I was trying to give you an out to claim Neutral Benign or Neutral Evil but I guess you didnt get the hint. Hapns.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby stellaluna » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:22 pm

Invenio wrote:Santa cant take all the credit. Stella was doused, right?

Well I already figured that part from loomi's night plan so my plan for day 8 was to convince neko to jail someone besides arc, which would leave arc with the choice of controlling birdy off me or not, since by that point it would've been impossible for a witch to win anyway.
loomi sending santa after me as well was the part I didn't expect. :(
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Aeolian » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:29 pm

GG stella. Was rooting for you. So close... but very well played.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby LeScraf » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:32 pm

So basically Loominaty is God and wins another game? (Slow FM and GFM)

Got it.

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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby ObiWan » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:03 pm

Would you guys play GFM again? Please answer honestly.
Obviously there will be major changes next time and we will be more organized. But I'd like to know the overall consensus before even attempting to do it again
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby K1llthestory » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:03 pm

ObiWan wrote:Would you guys play GFM again? Please answer honestly.
Obviously there will be major changes next time and we will be more organized. But I'd like to know the overall consensus before even attempting to do it again

I would.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Akame » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:05 pm

LeScraf wrote:So basically Loominaty is God and wins another game? (Slow FM and GFM)

Got it.

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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby jacobm1122 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:07 pm

ObiWan wrote:Would you guys play GFM again? Please answer honestly.
Obviously there will be major changes next time and we will be more organized. But I'd like to know the overall consensus before even attempting to do it again

I would probably, depending on the changes
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby stellaluna » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:10 pm

Yeah sure why not.
Just hope town doesn't wind up cakewalking over most of the scum again the next time a merge happens.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby RockFire » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:11 pm

stellaluna wrote:Yeah sure why not.
Just hope town doesn't wind up cakewalking over most of the scum again the next time a merge happens.

My sentiments exactly. I'd be willing to try it again though.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby leyva45 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:15 pm

ObiWan wrote:Would you guys play GFM again? Please answer honestly.
Obviously there will be major changes next time and we will be more organized. But I'd like to know the overall consensus before even attempting to do it again

Yes, dont make town too strong though.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Neasans » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:15 pm

RockFire wrote:
stellaluna wrote:Yeah sure why not.
Just hope town doesn't wind up cakewalking over most of the scum again the next time a merge happens.

My sentiments exactly. I'd be willing to try it again though.

A second of these might be interesting. Hopefully, scum will win then.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:21 pm

I'd play it again.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Arcthurus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:24 pm

I would like to see the changes first.
Until then, I remain neutral.


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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby VucubCaquix » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:33 pm

Nah, I think the whole merge idea is a bit difficult to plan around.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Aeolian » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:37 pm

Not a fan of the length nor how often replacements might be needed.
It is a little awkward to basically play three separate games and then combine them at once. It can be a little hectic.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Reviews

Postby Santa07 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:47 pm

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I'd be up for another GFM, but I'd want to wait a while before it's hosted. Back to normal games for a while would be nice ;)
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby ObiWan » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:52 pm

If we are going to do another it won't be ran for a long while. I think everyone, including the mods, need a break from it.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Knockoff » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:55 pm

ObiWan wrote:Would you guys play GFM again? Please answer honestly.
Obviously there will be major changes next time and we will be more organized. But I'd like to know the overall consensus before even attempting to do it again


I agree with Arc about waiting to see the changes. The merge is the biggest problem and that's bad considering that it's the central mechanic. Willing to give it another shot, though.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Arckas » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:32 pm

I wish that everything wasn't so figured out by the time we merged. I mean, the game was practically decided once we merged as the neutral killings and mafia were/were about to be found out.

The only thing that possibly could have changed the outcome was the bomber, and thats just because the bomber can change a course of the game on a dime.

When the merge happened, the game practically decided. I don't think any improvisations would have fixed that, save for bomber. If it wasn't decided in town favor, it'd most likely be mafia and then whatever neutral came along. If their was a way to combat this, I'd love to see in the next GFM. Otherwise I think I'll just stick to regular games.

Plus, if you die early in GFM you've got less chances for games for a long while.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby jacobm1122 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:38 pm

Honestly it would be best for scum to stay hidden as long as possible even if it means no-killing to preserve the relative anonymity and safety of having the town to blend in with. Business scum got screwed because they destroyed their district. So the key for scum would be to do well, but not destroy.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Knockoff » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:41 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:Honestly it would be best for scum to stay hidden as long as possible even if it means no-killing to preserve the relative anonymity and safety of having the town to blend in with. Business scum got screwed because they destroyed their district. So the key for scum would be to do well, but not destroy.


Intentionally having to sabotage yourself isn't good game design, which is my main problem with it.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby jacobm1122 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:46 pm

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jacobm1122 wrote:Honestly it would be best for scum to stay hidden as long as possible even if it means no-killing to preserve the relative anonymity and safety of having the town to blend in with. Business scum got screwed because they destroyed their district. So the key for scum would be to do well, but not destroy.


Intentionally having to sabotage yourself isn't good game design, which is my main problem with it.

But you aren't sabotaging yourself. You are making sure you don't become obvious after the merge. If there was no mass graveyard, then the scum could make up whatever rolelist they want. But they can't.
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Re: GFM: Master Thread [City of Salem] Game over: TOWN WINS!

Postby Knockoff » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:49 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:But you aren't sabotaging yourself. You are making sure you don't become obvious after the merge. If there was no mass graveyard, then the scum could make up whatever rolelist they want. But they can't.


It doesn't work that way with town, though. They're actually rewarded for doing well, unlike scum. It's not like town has to avoid lynching too many scum or they'll lose. I agree that not killing as many town was the best strategy in this situation, but that shouldn't be the best strategy in the first place.
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