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ICECLIMBERS wrote:what specific group of people?
racist people??
Brilliand wrote:Incidentally, can we ban the words "racist", "homophobic" and "transphobic" as slurs? They're clearly derogatory terms directed at a specific group of people. Granted, they're specifically counter-slurs directed at people who use slurs, but right now I'm hoping that doesn't matter.
Brilliand wrote:Incidentally, can we ban the words "racist", "homophobic" and "transphobic" as slurs? They're clearly derogatory terms directed at a specific group of people. Granted, they're specifically counter-slurs directed at people who use slurs, but right now I'm hoping that doesn't matter.
dolphina wrote:But banning these words would be like banning the phrase "You're a shitty person."
Chemist1422 wrote:If you're going to argue in bad faith, I would recommend you quit now
Brilliand wrote:dolphina wrote:But banning these words would be like banning the phrase "You're a shitty person."
Well no, the difference is that words such as "racist" put the person in a specific category which is hated for being that category, and it's actually more common for people to not understand what a "racist" actually is than to not understand that racists are to be hated.
Phrases are also much safer from being slurs than single words are, because they're much more likely to actually explain themselves and put the listener in a position of being able to make their own decision.Chemist1422 wrote:If you're going to argue in bad faith, I would recommend you quit now
'Scuse me? This argument legitimately makes sense to me, if I presume that slurs should be dealt with at all (which I'm not entirely convinced of).
When I said I've been called things just as stupid as the word "snowflake", I was thinking of the word "transphobic". Knowing that, I think what you should do is reciprocate in trying to clean up hurtful ill-defined words applied to both sides of the conflict, but I suspect that what you'll actually do is hate me because I've been called a transphobe. (And yet I still don't know what the word means... )
Brilliand wrote:Incidentally, can we ban the words "racist", "homophobic" and "transphobic" as slurs? They're clearly derogatory terms directed at a specific group of people. Granted, they're specifically counter-slurs directed at people who use slurs, but right now I'm hoping that doesn't matter.
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cob709 wrote:I'm usually joking around but I'll contribute to this thread in a serious tone.
Alright so here's the thing: Insults are by definition intended to be negative or offensive. But I do agree that some can still be too extreme.
Well, in general insults are just overall bad, but we can't force everyone to stop insulting each other.
Banning a bunch of words is very unlikely to actually solve the problem, as that will motivate the player to further be insulting and work around the rules.
Perhaps it is a better solution to heavily discourage toxic behavior, over trying to ban players for a quick solution.
Banning players and deleting posts will temporarily solve the problem, but the community will still be toxic.
Our goal should be try to calm everyone down, and be happy with the community.
Forums exist because they're enjoyable, so let's make sure they stay enjoyable.
dolphina wrote:I hope the above post gets deleted soon and the person is added to denyfm
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