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TheDebil wrote:i also want to ban the word wagon because people from the baltics were transported to siberia using wagons to die there and the word makes me uncomfortable
like i get it
but its a stretch to even think about the racial thing
lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
cob709 wrote:lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
Because FREEDOM
Hellosither wrote:lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
how have none of the gmods asked you to change your sig yet
lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
Hellosither wrote:ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:The fact that all of these people are so salty over being asked to simply not use certain words is very telling of their world views. I, personally, am a white man. I have no reason to be offended by the n-slur. But I am a human being with the basic ability to empathize with others, so when I started to realize how that word hurts certain groups, I stopped using it. I didn't say "Well "n-slur" actually just means a trashy person. It's like "white-trash" for colored people. Why? Because regardless of my personal opinions, if a human being with thoughts and feel8ngs comes to me and explains that certain words or actions have a very negative impact on them, it's literally the easiest thing in the world to stop using that word.
On the other hand, the f-slur is extremely offensive and triggering to me on a personal level. Not only because of it's homophobic and hateful connotations; but because I have personal and traumatic experiences surrounding that word. Don't pretend like it's a huge burden to simply not use certain words when people simply want to be able to play a game or talk with people without being constantly reminded of horrible experiences in their own life.
Shame on you if you think that your "freedom" to use a certain word is more important than everyone else's freedom to be safe and happy. That is all.
who here is salty tho
no one is arguing against words severe as n-word or f-word being banned on this site, but the word "lynch" is obviously not racially charged in the context, and people frequently use the word to describe day death in town of salem so it's quite easy to see how outright banning the word might cause issues in terms of confusing newer players and players taking issue with not being able to use a word they deem not offensive in the context
Hellosither wrote:who here is salty tho
dolphina wrote:cob709 wrote:lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
Because FREEDOM
No, and stop assuming all Americans are people with guns and “FREEDOM” and fireworks and patriotism and fireworks and (especially) racism because...
Brilliand wrote:dolphina wrote:cob709 wrote:lemonader666 wrote:God, why does the US have to ruin everything for the rest of the world
Because FREEDOM
No, and stop assuming all Americans are people with guns and “FREEDOM” and fireworks and patriotism and fireworks and (especially) racism because...
Huh, that's not what I first assumed cob meant. I think America has several different groups that have different ideas of what "Freedom" means. Personally I lean toward the "freedom of speech" crowd. At the risk of slightly misrepresenting the groups that I'm not a part of, I guess I'll call the other versions... "freedom from hate" and "having a place of your own"?
Or I could just call them the "grey tribe", "blue tribe" and "red tribe", `cause those are the names you should search for if you want to read the articles I got this idea from.
Hellosither wrote:i cry every night at the thought of not being able to use the word lynch in my mafia games
but then i remember that we'd be replacing it with yeet or oof and i feel better
ICECLIMBERS wrote:what specific group of people?
racist people??
Brilliand wrote:Incidentally, can we ban the words "racist", "homophobic" and "transphobic" as slurs? They're clearly derogatory terms directed at a specific group of people. Granted, they're specifically counter-slurs directed at people who use slurs, but right now I'm hoping that doesn't matter.
Brilliand wrote:Incidentally, can we ban the words "racist", "homophobic" and "transphobic" as slurs? They're clearly derogatory terms directed at a specific group of people. Granted, they're specifically counter-slurs directed at people who use slurs, but right now I'm hoping that doesn't matter.
dolphina wrote:But banning these words would be like banning the phrase "You're a shitty person."
Chemist1422 wrote:If you're going to argue in bad faith, I would recommend you quit now
Brilliand wrote:dolphina wrote:But banning these words would be like banning the phrase "You're a shitty person."
Well no, the difference is that words such as "racist" put the person in a specific category which is hated for being that category, and it's actually more common for people to not understand what a "racist" actually is than to not understand that racists are to be hated.
Phrases are also much safer from being slurs than single words are, because they're much more likely to actually explain themselves and put the listener in a position of being able to make their own decision.Chemist1422 wrote:If you're going to argue in bad faith, I would recommend you quit now
'Scuse me? This argument legitimately makes sense to me, if I presume that slurs should be dealt with at all (which I'm not entirely convinced of).
When I said I've been called things just as stupid as the word "snowflake", I was thinking of the word "transphobic". Knowing that, I think what you should do is reciprocate in trying to clean up hurtful ill-defined words applied to both sides of the conflict, but I suspect that what you'll actually do is hate me because I've been called a transphobe. (And yet I still don't know what the word means... )
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