Crimson97 wrote:Jabi why don't you like hypoclaiming?
It's not that I dislike it, but I'm reluctant to do it after seeing how the first four people who checked in immediately made a hypoclaim and I suppose that's fine and all, except for the fact that we seem to have ignored that during D1 not everyone thought it was a good idea, mainly Wabbit, who ended up being the lynch target for that day
Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.
ok so i will be playing today, and if i stop playing then you can hound me to play.
first of all I'll say be prepared to stop tunnelling me. For a start, your case on me is pretty level 1, meaning it's really something to respond to, plus I know you can find actual "scummy" things if you wanted a case.
secondly, we are talking about that wabbit cfd. I will be honest in saying that i sort of "knew" I would be cfd'd cause hey that's what we do, and secondly, we're basically never right on our first choice of a lynch that survives as a wagon the whole day (and you're still not right).
thirdly, i swear if i see people hypoclaiming, when it's clearly not good a play reiterated by a man who just flipped green who although sometimes, INtEReStInG, knows what they are talking about, if you don't want to believe me.
SparkingJayYT wrote:Gut feeling both wagons at EoD were TvT
mainly due to the dead atmosphere when Poly was topwagon for several hours leading up to EoD, if my facts are correct.
Thats logical but.. If not Poly. Do you think scum just watched it unfold? as I missed EoD so i can't possibally tell.
If they have no reason to show up at EoD then why not, or just make the situation between WabbitvPoly more tense
Yeah. i was thinking such after reading EoD a few mins ago. Thus I unvoted them however I hit a roadblock. Ill settle on Crimson for a lynch today but they havn't made many connections so Idk who their buddies could be.
Crimson97 wrote:Jabi why don't you like hypoclaiming?
It's not that I dislike it, but I'm reluctant to do it after seeing how the first four people who checked in immediately made a hypoclaim and I suppose that's fine and all, except for the fact that we seem to have ignored that during D1 not everyone thought it was a good idea, mainly Wabbit, who ended up being the lynch target for that day
im aware it's too late now though, will hypo soon
The fact that not everyone thought it was a good idea doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it. You seem to be forming your opinions based off what other people think rather than what you think.
UzayAltay wrote:Crimson I am saying If they are town Like You assumed in The First part of sentence That Dont mean read is bad You are keep saying "but I Said or they are scum" So What? Are You accusing them with them being scum and that read being bad? No, they are different, and they are in The different parts of argument.
Ok first Uzay, the read is bad for the reasons i have stated. Second, what was your initial point? You are only using this post which was a reply to yours to push your point. Third, yes, reads can be bad even if you're scum.
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.
mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.
okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon /vote Wabbit see where this goes also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread
They had Same amount of votes.
yes, but while no one really contested the piling of votes on poly, there were some people going up against Wabbit as soon as started to take off
UzayAltay wrote:Crimson I am saying If they are town Like You assumed in The First part of sentence That Dont mean read is bad You are keep saying "but I Said or they are scum" So What? Are You accusing them with them being scum and that read being bad? No, they are different, and they are in The different parts of argument.
Ok first Uzay, the read is bad for the reasons i have stated. Second, what was your initial point? You are only using this post which was a reply to yours to push your point. Third, yes, reads can be bad even if you're scum.
Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.
ok so i will be playing today, and if i stop playing then you can hound me to play.
first of all I'll say be prepared to stop tunnelling me. For a start, your case on me is pretty level 1, meaning it's really something to respond to, plus I know you can find actual "scummy" things if you wanted a case.
secondly, we are talking about that wabbit cfd. I will be honest in saying that i sort of "knew" I would be cfd'd cause hey that's what we do, and secondly, we're basically never right on our first choice of a lynch that survives as a wagon the whole day (and you're still not right).
thirdly, i swear if i see people hypoclaiming, when it's clearly not good a play reiterated by a man who just flipped green who although sometimes, INtEReStInG, knows what they are talking about, if you don't want to believe me.
Uzay i want you to tell me where in this post i said Sparking was town with a bad read. This was my original argument and the one you said was wrong. The post you've been quoting so much was just me accepting there's a chance Sparking is town with a bad read. If the read is bad or good is subjective and if you disagree with me that doesn't make it a logical flaw.
Crimson97 wrote:Sparking you're clearing poly cause of the dead atmosphere but the CFD on Wabbit nullifies that. I was the first vote on that wagon, you were the second one. My vote was not really serious but yours was so you kickstarted the whole thing. If poly is scum there's a big chance you are their buddy.
Let's assume poly is scum, then there is definitely a scum in here (SparkingJayYT, kosmo16, lemonader666, 3cheersforidiots) but i'd go with (kosmo/Sparking) seeing how they kickstarted the wagon.
3cheers is interesting cause they were in both wagons. Don't really know what to think about them, though i find Sparking's case on Wabbit to not be that convincing, especially if you had a TR on Wabbit like 3cheers did.
SparkingJayYT wrote:Going with what I believe is +ev for town, When someone gets mislynched it's better to be productive than cry over something that already happened.
okay, that's fair
UzayAltay wrote:@Poly @Javi I think You are doing The Opposite of ad hominem (I Dont remember properly term now) : defending an idea Because somebody Who flipped town thinks that way. Only reason them defending that idea was not Trusting The playerlist, rather that it being wrong. I believe They mainly afraid from SHC angle of that, but We Dont have to apply SHC Ever.
well yeah, im like this because he flipped town, but a discussion like that shouldn't conclude the way it did, forgetting it happened, right? And there's also the cfd that took place... I thought wabbit's lynch made it easier for them to assume hypoclaiming was an unanimous decision, so I brought that up by temporarily picking the opposing side and see what happened
Crimson97 wrote:
Jabichuelas wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Jabi why don't you like hypoclaiming?
It's not that I dislike it, but I'm reluctant to do it after seeing how the first four people who checked in immediately made a hypoclaim and I suppose that's fine and all, except for the fact that we seem to have ignored that during D1 not everyone thought it was a good idea, mainly Wabbit, who ended up being the lynch target for that day
im aware it's too late now though, will hypo soon
The fact that not everyone thought it was a good idea doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it. You seem to be forming your opinions based off what other people think rather than what you think.
I know, and I never wanted to stop you from doing it. It feels pointless now that everyone seems to think I was. Again, I thought the discussion on hypo was concluded too quickly, and I DID want to check if someone else thought likewise and see if I wasn't being crazy myself for something that I thought was off, but not to the point I'd debate against hypoing and change the flow of the game as a result when I've never been myself to a full game where hypoclaiming has been used.
I don't really get what you've said about my opinions though. Back when I voted poly you were right when you said I was taking advantage of the reads of others, and I understand here since that relates to sheeping votes imo (even townread you for bringing that up), but this too? Fine, it feels I've only talked about Wabbit during D2, but can I not use what the others think to get thoughts of my own? I don't know if I'm missing the point or if that's my way of playing, but I can't see the problem rn...