There needs to be a limit on tps, its just a fucking joke

[Shecklock]

https://imgur.com/a/1HDBhAl
4 fucking tps, 4 of them. This game is a joke, Tps need to be limited to 3 or 2. Theres a reason alot of people just go afk on maf, its because of bs like this. You can work hard for a win but then there are 4 fucking tps.
For those wandering i was disg.

[Joacgroso]

Even then, maf was pretty close to winning. The problem with reducing the chances of TPs spawning is that it would increase the odds of TS spawning, which in my opinion is worse. At least evils can fakeclaim TS if there isn't a lookout.

[Shecklock]

game was only close coz jailor didnt claim

[CrimsonKatana]

There's nothing unbalanced about 4 tps in a game

[Brilliand]

Say "4 tp claims is too many" and get the Town to lynch some of them.

[killstrikers]

Towns are so loaded, but in a fair way.

[CrimsonKatana]

The only 2 things unbalanced about town are Medium and Retributionist!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!! !!!!! Deal with it broski

[ShylokVakarian]

The only 2 things unbalanced about town are Medium and Retributionist!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!! !!!!! Deal with it broski

Transporter is pretty disruptive, tbh. It's gotten to the point where if I roll it, I refuse to use it purely so I don't fuck over town with it.

[Brilliand]

The only 2 things unbalanced about town are Medium and Retributionist!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!! !!!!! Deal with it broski

Transporter is pretty disruptive, tbh. It's gotten to the point where if I roll it, I refuse to use it purely so I don't fuck over town with it.

That doesn't sound unbalanced. That sounds like making the Transporter a Town role did a good job of keeping it from being overpowered, because it needs to not use its (normally overpowered) ability all the time.

[woahah]

honestly 4 tps is fine, mafia just needs abuff

[lemonader666]

Decrease in TPs => Increase in the rest => Decrease in TS's => Increase in TIs => Decrease in TIs => Increase in TKs => Decrease in TKs and the cycle continues
ToS balancing was doomed to fail from the moment the idea of a turbo role madness game came into existence, and the only true way to fix it is with citizens, but braindead players would just complain about muh not clicking buttons and being useless, even though citizens are super fucking powerful. You can't balance a turbo ROLE MADNESS game, unless citizens are added to counteract the swinginess of the games, but that would never be added so the current state of the game just ends up being a self-distructive cycle

[ShylokVakarian]

The only 2 things unbalanced about town are Medium and Retributionist!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!! !!!!! Deal with it broski

Transporter is pretty disruptive, tbh. It's gotten to the point where if I roll it, I refuse to use it purely so I don't fuck over town with it.

That doesn't sound unbalanced. That sounds like making the Transporter a Town role did a good job of keeping it from being overpowered, because it needs to not use its (normally overpowered) ability all the time.

No one knows how to shut up and not use it for once, though.

[woahah]

The only 2 things unbalanced about town are Medium and Retributionist!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!! !!!!! Deal with it broski

Transporter is pretty disruptive, tbh. It's gotten to the point where if I roll it, I refuse to use it purely so I don't fuck over town with it.

That doesn't sound unbalanced. That sounds like making the Transporter a Town role did a good job of keeping it from being overpowered, because it needs to not use its (normally overpowered) ability all the time.

No one knows how to shut up and not use it for once, though.

Hate the player, not the game

[Brilliand]

Hate the player, not the game

why?

'cause I usually see that said the other way around, so I'm curious why you think it should go this way around this time.

[kosmo16]

4 tps is ok, Imagine 4 transporters, that is unwinnable.

[Brilliand]

4 tps is ok, Imagine 4 transporters, that is unwinnable.

Transporters sort of cancel each other out if they both target the same person.

Mafia kills would be aimed effectively randomly, but with a Godfather...

[Transcender]

transporters can both be a blessing and a curse, that can be unwinnable, it can also be really easy, you never know

[3cheersforidiots]

I get where you're coming from, but in a game like ToS where there are no citizens, it's difficult to find other roles to balance it out with
obviously, you can't put more TS or TK roles in there, nor really TIs due to the potential information overload

[Transcender]

I get where you're coming from, but in a game like ToS where there are no citizens, it's difficult to find other roles to balance it out with
obviously, you can't put more TS or TK roles in there, nor really TIs due to the potential information overload

tos isn't balancable
you can make it more bearable
but you cant make it actually balanced because cits will never be added

[kosmo16]

game was only close coz jailor didnt claim

Game would be easier if he would claim. What was the 2nd TI?

[Transcender]

Hate the player, not the game

why?

'cause I usually see that said the other way around, so I'm curious why you think it should go this way around this time.

If nobody knows how to properly play the game, thats not the games fault
its not like there are guides or tips are anything, right?
if people are too lazy to actually learn how to play, its the players fault
therefore, Hate the player, not the game

[3cheersforidiots]

I get where you're coming from, but in a game like ToS where there are no citizens, it's difficult to find other roles to balance it out with
obviously, you can't put more TS or TK roles in there, nor really TIs due to the potential information overload

tos isn't balancable
you can make it more bearable
but you cant make it actually balanced because cits will never be added

I've heard they're adding them into the Traitor mode or sth
though because of the pacing of ToS, Cits are just not that useful

[Transcender]

I get where you're coming from, but in a game like ToS where there are no citizens, it's difficult to find other roles to balance it out with
obviously, you can't put more TS or TK roles in there, nor really TIs due to the potential information overload

tos isn't balancable
you can make it more bearable
but you cant make it actually balanced because cits will never be added

I've heard they're adding them into the Traitor mode or sth
though because of the pacing of ToS, Cits are just not that useful

i hope your joking about the traitor stuff

cits ARE useful in tos, I have played turbos with just cits and goons which have went perfectly fine