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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:26 pm

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OllyRenard wrote:I'm here to reaffirm that I am indeed, a member of the Town faction, and that I was not responsible for the mislynch at all. Don't know why you guys didn't follow cop check but w/e you guys suck So yeah let's lynch Zorua

/vote Zorua

what are you talking about? even if a cop exists they do not have night 0's?
what exactly is town!olly thinking when he shades the players like this? while saying, "its not my fault", you are trying to remove all blame from yourself, while blaming everyone else

/vote Olly

planned on voting here from the start, but forgot, thanks for reminding me

we here refer to what olly did as a "joke"
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:26 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:For the record HtG is town, dont think scum would pass up on town leading so easily when given opportunity

i think this just has to do with htg
given how she loves to self-deprecate it would look weird if she took town leader
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:27 pm

heytheregirl17 wrote:Nooooooo mason buddy :(

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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:28 pm

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Chemist1422 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:You thought it was me! (Cop with a red-check)
But it was me! DIO! (Not claiming anything but I don't have a red-check)

oh

/vote unvote

Are you actually scum?

Only if you are

If you’re town I think Wisp just TMI’d you

You have my interest, explain

Generally scum response to red checks on town is to avoid them so they don’t get called out for votes like you did with me

Wisp calling the check fake feels like they knew the check was fake
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:29 pm

JacksonVirgo wrote:
Wiisp wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:I have a red-check on Olly btw

I think he is definitely above 70% when it comes to being mafia, but I dont actually believe you, and stuff like this is just stupid
and then you talk about, "Idk why I get wolf read for my playstyle"

if you are town this doesnt help, and if you are a wolf, this is just manipulative
so plz stop

Sowwy I thought it was funny :C
But actually reacting this way is somewhat townie, and I was thinking Flake was scum. Hmmm

NAI
wisp just seems hotheaded
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby OllyRenard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:29 pm

Wiisp wrote:sure thats fair, but given how many pages I had to read in 24 hours, I just decided my best bet was going through iso's
I can fully reread the game on thurs

but that also isnt even why I am voting you, did you read my thoughts on you?

@chemist
unvoting their is probably +town ev, but not much

I don't expect you to read it, tbh

To go over your reasons:
Shading Wabbit. If it is referring to me not reading them it is because they type a lot and I'm lazy. If it referring to something else, I'm not sure, Wabbit probably deserved it though.
Zorua is town because he made a vote history I was being sarcastic. My thought process on Zorua was waiting to see if they provided content outside of their rolling of the role list and vote count which I didn't see.
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:30 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:You thought it was me! (Cop with a red-check)
But it was me! DIO! (Not claiming anything but I don't have a red-check)

oh

/vote unvote

Are you actually scum?

Only if you are

If you’re town I think Wisp just TMI’d you

You have my interest, explain

Generally scum response to red checks on town is to avoid them so they don’t get called out for votes like you did with me

Wisp calling the check fake feels like they knew the check was fake

i mean jackson didnt vote or push harder it doesnt seem very real
but good point
could also mean they had some way to interfere with jackson, maybe a rb or a transport
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:30 pm

TheDebil wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:For the record HtG is town, dont think scum would pass up on town leading so easily when given opportunity

i think this just has to do with htg
given how she loves to self-deprecate it would look weird if she took town leader

Eh I'll stick with the town read anyways.

As a side note so it's technically possible that vigi could be only PR right? If I'm getting the mechanics right now
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:32 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:For the record HtG is town, dont think scum would pass up on town leading so easily when given opportunity

i think this just has to do with htg
given how she loves to self-deprecate it would look weird if she took town leader

Eh I'll stick with the town read anyways.

As a side note so it's technically possible that vigi could be only PR right? If I'm getting the mechanics right now

technically yes
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby OllyRenard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:32 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:You have my interest, explain

Generally scum response to red checks on town is to avoid them so they don’t get called out for votes like you did with me

Wisp calling the check fake feels like they knew the check was fake

Is the first point arguing yourself as town because you talked about it? And that second point could be interesting to go off of
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Wiisp » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:32 pm

I am already voting him regardless lol
and given jackson's playstyle its definitely not a wrong assumption
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby OllyRenard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:34 pm

Google wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:Nooooooo mason buddy :(

forced

Agree
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby JacksonVirgo » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:35 pm

Wiisp wrote:I am already voting him regardless lol
and given jackson's playstyle its definitely not a wrong assumption

What do you mean my playstyle? You've only played with me in a game where I had little to no wim at all

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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby OllyRenard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:35 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:For the record HtG is town, dont think scum would pass up on town leading so easily when given opportunity

i think this just has to do with htg
given how she loves to self-deprecate it would look weird if she took town leader

Eh I'll stick with the town read anyways.

As a side note so it's technically possible that vigi could be only PR right? If I'm getting the mechanics right now

All this stuff happening and Elusize is talking about mechanics. I knew you were scum after you didn't hardclaim d1 smh
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:35 pm

Wiisp wrote:This game is honestly going to be rough to catch up on, probably won’t be fully caught up till day 3 starts, since my next day off isn’t till Thursday. At least when I did these in previous games I was around to remember thoughts, but here I don’t have that, I am basically going in blind
Poly wasn’t the worst lynch given that he flipped citizen
polypies73 5 TheDebil, ZoruaLuhansk, Wiisp, Chemist1422, 0verki11
0verki11 4 SparkingJayYT, watchme1, polypies73, Eragon1329
ZoruaLuhansk 2 OllyRenard, TheWabbit
SparkingJayYT 1 BasicFourLife
BasicFourLife 1 Google
TheWabbit 1 JacksonVirgo
ElusiveBelle 1 heytheregirl17

Initial thoughts before going through iso’s and based off EoD movement
Basic’s wagon and Sparkling’s wagon just died, theres no really much to get out of that, they could both go either way
Overkill’s wagon blew up
I made my own vote movement analysis from the VC before the final

ZoruaLuhansk 3 OllyRenard, TheWabbit, Eragon1329
polypies73 3 TheDebil, ZoruaLuhansk, Wiisp
BasicFourLife 2 Google, Chemist1422
SparkingJayYT 2 BasicFourLife, 0verki11
Google 1 polypies73
Chemist1422 1 watchme1
ElusiveBelle 1 heytheregirl17
TheWabbit 1 JacksonVirgo
0verki11 1 SparkingJayYT

Jackson -> Wabbit (1)
Watch -> Over (2)
Poly -> Over (3)
Chemist -> Poly (4)
Eragon -> Over (4)
Over -> Poly (5)

If Over is a wolf, I think he is exactly a wolf with Chemist, I want to say there really isn’t enough vote movement that makes me think the wolves even cared about Over dying, and given that he claimed Cit, unless he is lying, I think he’s probably just town. The problem with having tied wagons like this, is that Over broke his own tie, which literally gives us no additional info, since we can’t analyze the person who pseudo hammered this

Iso’s
Olly –
Random shade on Wabbit which makes me think if Olly is a wolf then Wabbit isnt
Zorua is town because he made a vote history, I don’t think that reason means much of anything this early, but he probably believes this, which is good?
He mentions nothing of his thoughts on Zorua, but his vote ends up there because ??? even though he expressed early scum leans on players? Makes me feel like his thoughts are fake. His list post on is his thoughts on Zorua which doesn’t say much of anything given that many players don’t even gives thoughts that should be considered content. This is just an easy read
His whole red check claim on Zorua is nai
Calling himself confirmed town has a net yield of mostly town from my past games, but that probably is more of personality thing than anything
I want to see more, currently null->low end scum lean

Acidic –
null

Girl –
Only vote feels more like a meme than anything
“caught for the wrong reason” post towards Jackson is just shade especially given she just stayed on her current vote
Think there is a bit of a disconnect here just like with Olly that I don’t like
Google problem town for deflecting over aggression?
TIL: Reads on ToS never get better, how is deflecting townier than aggression? K
Same as Olly null->low end scum lean
I feel like I am going to have a lot of these given I have to think to myself, “is this town making nonsense reads, or is this a wolf just not caring?”

I don’t think olly or girl have to be wolf, its just going to take me more time to fully understand them, and right now I don’t


Sparking Jay
Asking a fair bit of questions, giving reads
One thing I noticed was their vote on B4L, and then saying his lynch is just a count flip, but I think the vote was just a meme, so its definitely NAI
Vote on Overkill checks out
This slot is fine for now, this read probably depends on consistency though

Chemist
his white knight of me is weird? Feels a little forced here
his response, “apparently scumreading is illegal”, feels more like a strawman than an actual response
he actually might be a little too aggressive at points
but Same with Jay he asks a fair bit of questions, and is actually pushing people, which is more than most this game,
don’t see a lot of wolves playing like this, but its definitely not impossible for chemist given my past experiences with him

Basic -> Yoshi
Most of his posts just felt like trolling for the sake of trolling, will read this slot off Yoshi’s posts

Going to try to brush through the rest of these since there are way to many players in this game to be doing this at the current stage

Elusive –
Iso is one page, more than Acidic, but I am not forcing a read on this slot

Wabbit –
Didn’t read, high volume, will actually read once I get a chance
Probably town due to that, this slot shouldn’t be touched yet

Jackson –
??? don’t really think hes done anything that’s actually wolfy, more so things other perceive to be wolfy,
Wouldn’t lynch as it stands

Debil –
Don’t really want to make a read on this slot yet
/shrug

Notes:
Debil/Google never w/w, feels too aggressive to ever be between two partners
67 pages, fuck off

Ya I just skipped all of these tonight
Google
Watchme
Overkill
Eragon
Zoru

4 hours and 900 words later…
There is absolutely no reason why day 1 should’ve hit this many pages, all this does is make it easier for wolves to hide, and harder for me and other town to analyze

i like how you made a readlist egotistial well dne
you seem to give no reason on why you skipped 5 people, seems lazy and I wish you were here d1 so we could PL you.
either way, bye scum.
/vote wii special
/vote wiisp
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:36 pm

OllyRenard wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:You have my interest, explain

Generally scum response to red checks on town is to avoid them so they don’t get called out for votes like you did with me

Wisp calling the check fake feels like they knew the check was fake

Is the first point arguing yourself as town because you talked about it? And that second point could be interesting to go off of

Ah crap he foiled my plan

Shut it down bois it’s all over
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:36 pm

olly/chemist not svs
wisp/jackson not svs
watchme/zorua svs vibes

thats for now
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby OllyRenard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:37 pm

Actually, I know chemist could still be scum manipulating my attention to Wiisp instead, but it is tempting to humor it
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:39 pm

/vote watchme
this seems fine
both olly and wiisp seem alright for now
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:39 pm

Yosh1123 wrote:hey guys whats the role list

oh god oh fuck
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:41 pm

TheDebil wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:"girl"

I mean I guess I'll take that

next time i read you im calling you "he"

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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:41 pm

over wagon struggled to build up more than poly
i voted poly and like 2 people jumped on easily from my memory, while overs wagon didnt do anything for a bit
could have been due to people having bad vibes about him and not wanting to speak up due to weak reasoning/none at all
but overall wagon feels scummy
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:42 pm

Yosh1123 wrote:is the role list the same as xix

this is so sad
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:44 pm

if wisp is scum zorua has decent chances to be so too
otherwise idk
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Re: XX1 | Flairs' End | Day 2

Postby Descender » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:44 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:ill say lynch chemist cause i dont wanna read
wiisps catchup towny but can be faked easy

don’t make me texas golden wind you

dont know the reference


cant tell if confscum for jojo or conftown for tf2
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