JakeTheSnake5963 wrote:/nosupport
Although there have been games where I have been killed N1 as jester, its honestly something that I just can accept as unlucky and that I need to do better next time. This 'better' I have found is fake vet baiting D1 to keep the mafia off of me for the night (which is what many smart players tend to do). The only change that I could borderline support would be to lose less elo if you die N1 (I understand that this would be a complex change), but even N1 death is often preventable if you play your D1 correctly. Granting jester defense just counteracts much of what the jester stands for: deceiving town through their words, not because they're immune. If the jester acts too townie, it will be killed by the mafia/NK. If it looks too suspicious, it will be shot/exed. Jester should not be protected from attacks because if you're getting attacked as jester, you're not playing the role correctly. A skillful jester knows when to and how to 'out themselves' as scum so they are lynched accordingly. Defense would allow many unskilled jesters to just pick up an easy win when they would have died and lost otherwise.
That's why I dislike the idea of removing day 1 the entire jailor meta can be fixed without removing day 1. (just makes n1 random).
anyway Jester visiting but doing nothing, imo I don't really mind that much jester can be a bit of a role that can just get screwed over by invests but I'd mainly think investigator/sheriff/spy would be the ones screwing over jester most of the time, I'm not going to suggest self frame either.