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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby AlephNull » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:18 am

Some observations.

I'll reiterate my townread on Chubby. I have a gutread that they're always Town here. I'm decently confident in this and voting them is a mistake. That's my 2 cents.

I see Uzay calling me out for being "anti-Flow" as just a way of saying I'm scummier for not thinking like him. Which is something he has scumread me for in the past when we were both Town. I believe he might be Town here as well.

I don't personally follow the cases on Michael/Chemist. I'm voting Chemist for being a little wanker and just crossing their arms unwilling to cooperate. I cursory read Michael's ISO and didn't pick up anything.
However FML had Chem as Town and Michael as scum and FML has been more right this game than HTG who's frankly not at all close to the level FML is and is a shame of a town leader IMO. But beggars can't be choosers.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby AlephNull » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:41 am

I read a bit on Debil and I don't think they're mafia. That narrows it to Michael/Chuunibyou. I don't know how much time we have but when I get the chance I'll read Michael.

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TheDebil wrote:/vote chubby

actually he makes more sense as maf so mostly a placeholder
just someone whos bad but not getting replaced
a few of their posts felt shady and they kinda died down after scumflip


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MichaelgRook wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
MichaelgRook wrote:what makes chubby mafia over alien

it makes more sense for mafia to be hit after their buddy die rather than alien

thats fair but also any half decent mafia could hide any panic they might have

id argue chubby is the type to not give a shit to try at all


You think Chubby is more likely Mafia for going AFK at the same time you think that's natural of Chubby? That's confusing.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby AlephNull » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:59 am

I've dived back into as far as D1 and came to the conclusion Chemist is town. The last argument I can recall raised against them was that they haven't "progressed" which only makes sense if you're arguing for Chemist!Mafia. Which is clearly absolutely false. I'll even tempt it to say Chemist is town.

I'm not just about to vote an inactive slot, I'll hope that they are town and get replaced by an actual player.

Therefore.
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/vote MichaelgRook
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby AlephNull » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:00 am

I forgot the beginning of my sentence and wrote Chemist is town a second time at the end. In my defense, it is currently 4 AM.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:31 am

yeah, its natural for mafia!chubby to react this way
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:32 am

i would rather vote micheal over chemist if it does come down to it
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:33 am

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:34 am

day ends in roughly 8 hours btw
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:35 am

MichaelgRook wrote:see if I was alien though I would've kept dota alive and convinced my buddy to do the same

Than who would You kill instead ?
And What If your buddy is somebody You cant argue ?
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:38 am

TheDebil wrote:i personally like the stubborness and would much prefer if you guys voted chubby

Chubby is PL and only PL
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:38 am

TheDebil wrote:chemist is ok but i want to grt the safe bet first
hes never mafia in my eyes


It is Interesting
I Also think Chemist is never Alien
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby yurkin » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:40 am

UzayAltay wrote:TBH my only concern on Michael is Dota kill
They wouldnt be against it as Alien
But Who is their ally ? Unless it is exactly Michael /yurkin , I cant see who suggested Dota kill .

Maybe you :BlobTea:

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:43 am

UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:chemist is ok but i want to grt the safe bet first
hes never mafia in my eyes


It is Interesting
I Also think Chemist is never Alien

never alien? due to the reads on him, right?
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:45 am

yurkin wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:TBH my only concern on Michael is Dota kill
They wouldnt be against it as Alien
But Who is their ally ? Unless it is exactly Michael /yurkin , I cant see who suggested Dota kill .

Maybe you :BlobTea:

:BlueThink:
Also Yeah my wording is bad , I mean " who suggested Dota kill to Michael "
And I Dont think I would kill Dota as scum when Dota TR me for pushing them
I could just FUR with that
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:46 am

TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:chemist is ok but i want to grt the safe bet first
hes never mafia in my eyes


It is Interesting
I Also think Chemist is never Alien

never alien? due to the reads on him, right?

For The reads of Dota and FML's on them
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:56 am

/vote Michael
Unofficial Vote Count wrote:ChubbyMooshroom9|1|TheDebil
Chemist|2| Michael , HTG ,
Michael |3| Chemist , Aleph , Uzay
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby Phone0Ix » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:49 am

Self-aware or not, the point of Michael at the dota kill was good enough imo
Call me Phone Ig

Or Silver because of my old discord name. Or Mikan because of my new discord name. Or Julian as that's my actual name
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:57 am

Phone0Ix wrote:Self-aware or not, the point of Michael at the dota kill was good enough imo

It was bad , but not Because self-awaraness
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:15 am

/vote micheal
looks like my prefered wagon isnt gonna happen
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby heytheregirl17 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:37 am

What are you doing

Why
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I'm not sure whether that says more about me or you guys
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:10 am

Is anyone else here ?
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby heytheregirl17 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:15 am

Yeah but my lynch just died for no reason when I know I'm right for like the first time since 13H
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby yurkin » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:33 am

I'd do isos and stuff but I'm super tired

Here ya go chemist vote

/vote Chemist

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:00 am

There is around 1 hour to EOD
heytheregirl17 wrote:Yeah but my lynch just died for no reason when I know I'm right for like the first time since 13H

Have You seen my argument about Why Chemist is probably not Alien and Why Michael is A very possible Alien argument ?
Like We can discuss but I think Chem is T/M , with likelier T .
So no , I am not supporting your lynch choose .
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:13 am

-12 minutes later -

It seems I am speaking with Mr. Nobody here
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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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