VFM57 - Vig10+Cop9 - Mafia Wins

[Royee]

And also don't forget I always vote in the eod

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

i am pretty confident that qva is 75% going to roll town, otherwise you(i cant explain more).
can you really push someone because of a cfding final votecount
vc analyzes dont seem to work much

nvm qva is scum

by uzay's and dota's scum reads' logic chemist+qva are the maf team

by uzay's and dota's scum reads' logic chemist+qva are the maf team

Who do you think is scum now that uzay claimed vig?
iirc you disagreed with me+chem

I have more feelings towards both of you that you can flip scum.
anyway my poe is
if chemist flips scum -> lynch you
if chemist flips town -> lynch both jal and lol

hey, @royee, could you elaborate on read on qva? If I understood it correctly, you were town-reading him at first because you thought that he was the vig and then, when uzay claimed, you started scum-reading him instead. If so, why aren’t you voting him?
and you seemed to be town-reading chemist yesterday so why do you want to lynch him now?

Qva's meta is different compering this game to vfm56, he seems more clueless than what he was in that game. Although Qva somehow selfmetaed/read himself I still considered him townie because I had thought that he is either vig(because he had scared tone) or just town due to me townreading chemist.
This has a little bit dropped since the start of day 2. But I find Jal/Hyena duo much more scummy than Chemist/Qva.
So what I was suggesting what lynch Chemist, if he flips read lynch Jal; if he flips town lynch Jal and Hyena.

So wait

Why not lynch Jal anyway

[UzayAltay]

i am here

[UzayAltay]

like Qva hasnt pushed Chemist here once today, only making a single post about them while voting else where

I think there's one scum in {jalandh,hyena} and one scum in {chemist,royee}

I thought pushing hyena would help me solve my first bracket and it did. I really liked their latest posts and they're solid town for me now.

is there any reason for the brackets being separated in that way?

It is Because my PoE is (Jalandh , Hyena , Chemist , Royee ) and I Dont think Chemist is scum with Royee or Jalandh is scum with Hyena

[UzayAltay]

Seriously brackets being seperated Dont seems to me make much sense
Like it seems to me they want to pocket The Player that is in Same bracket with other scum , with provoking thunderdomes.

[Royee]

Spoiler:

i am pretty confident that qva is 75% going to roll town, otherwise you(i cant explain more).
can you really push someone because of a cfding final votecount
vc analyzes dont seem to work much

nvm qva is scum

by uzay's and dota's scum reads' logic chemist+qva are the maf team

by uzay's and dota's scum reads' logic chemist+qva are the maf team

Who do you think is scum now that uzay claimed vig?
iirc you disagreed with me+chem

I have more feelings towards both of you that you can flip scum.
anyway my poe is
if chemist flips scum -> lynch you
if chemist flips town -> lynch both jal and lol

hey, @royee, could you elaborate on read on qva? If I understood it correctly, you were town-reading him at first because you thought that he was the vig and then, when uzay claimed, you started scum-reading him instead. If so, why aren’t you voting him?
and you seemed to be town-reading chemist yesterday so why do you want to lynch him now?

Qva's meta is different compering this game to vfm56, he seems more clueless than what he was in that game. Although Qva somehow selfmetaed/read himself I still considered him townie because I had thought that he is either vig(because he had scared tone) or just town due to me townreading chemist.
This has a little bit dropped since the start of day 2. But I find Jal/Hyena duo much more scummy than Chemist/Qva.
So what I was suggesting what lynch Chemist, if he flips read lynch Jal; if he flips town lynch Jal and Hyena.

So wait

Why not lynch Jal anyway

I was suggesting that. Jal is anyway lynched here.

[UzayAltay]

I did consider jal+hyena but I tr hyena now

Seriously brackets being seperated Dont seems to me make much sense
Like it seems to me they want to pocket The Player that is in Same bracket with other scum , with provoking thunderdomes.

It seems I just mindread Qvapil

[Royee]

After looking some more at the first, second, and fourth posts I quoted from Royee in my ISO dive on him, something stood out to me. In the first two posts, Royee is getting annoyed by the way Uzay is reading him, almost as if Uzay is reading him incorrectly. Then, in the fourth post I quoted, I mentioned that it felt less like a defense of Ryan and more like an attempt to question Uzay's ability to read Ryan.

Was Royee questioning Uzay's ability to read Ryan because he thought Uzay was misreading him? If this is the case, this is incredibly towny, and I think it's an incredibly genuine knee-jerk reaction to Uzay possibly misreading him, especially considering that Ryan ended up flipping town. Like, the emotion required to do something like what I think he did is hard to fake as scum, and I don't see Royee being able to pull that out spontaneously.

Thus, now I'm heavily thinking Royee is just town here. I'll go through the rest of his ISO to be sure, but this might be enough to clear him.

> no

and don't review me it's the third game someone does this

[UzayAltay]

Royee What is your opinion at possible Jal/Qva team ?

[dota2reporter]

i am here

wack i was busy today imma be free in 15 min

[UzayAltay]

Seriously brackets being seperated Dont seems to me make much sense
Like it seems to me they want to pocket The Player that is in Same bracket with other scum , with provoking thunderdomes.

I don't think chemist and royee are the team that's why I separated them. Hyena and jal were the rest of my poe

You just contradicted with your original post
And not thinking Chemist/ Royee is A team without TRing either ? >no
Dont think I would buy that

[Royee]

Royee What is your opinion at possible Jal/Qva team ?

by my theory it is possible that jal vs qva is svs. their interactions seem forced but it comes mostly from jal's side while qva's interactions dont seem forced.

[UzayAltay]

until EOD2

[Chemist1422]

Intent to put Jalandh at L-1

All he's been doing today is basically WIFOM defending himself and had one post saying the team was me/Qva without any real reasoning for the two of us being scum

[UzayAltay]

Seriously brackets being seperated Dont seems to me make much sense
Like it seems to me they want to pocket The Player that is in Same bracket with other scum , with provoking thunderdomes.

I don't think chemist and royee are the team that's why I separated them. Hyena and jal were the rest of my poe

You just contradicted with your original post
And not thinking Chemist/ Royee is A team without TRing either ? >no
Dont think I would buy that

I haven't read royee yet, will do so at night

[Chemist1422]

/vote Jalandh

L-1

No hammer without intent

[Royee]

/vote Jalandh

L-1

No hammer without intent

if you are asking for it

[UzayAltay]

/vote Jalandh

[Chemist1422]

:BlobBan:

/vote Jalandh

why tho

[Royee]

uzay has already voted him

[UzayAltay]

:BlobBan:

/vote Jalandh

why tho

Lol baited

[Chemist1422]

uzay has already voted him

oh

[LOLingHyena]

Okay, I'm here now.

:BlobBan:

/vote Jalandh

why tho

Lol baited

lol, Uzay did a funny

[LOLingHyena]

let me clarify

i expected to be voted here because i doubted how well some of you could have hid the fact that i wasnt actually cop and I was thinking you werre gonna cc me or something stupid

Why didn't you change your play after flake died then? You were still kinda passive today even though your plan failed

^ This here is why I'm skeptical about Jal saying that he was passive because his plan failed. He's an intelligent player that's capable of adapting to the situation and changing his play to suit what's going on in the game as either alignment. This just feels like an excuse to me.

[LOLingHyena]

You’re talking about those ones, right? Spoiler:

Why royee's catchup sucks ?

name me a game where i didnt post reads d1 forcefully

I find it funny how you talk about hard-buddying 2-3 hours after the game started
Does that mean you think flake is a wolf?
And does that mean you think dota is townie?
Besides, considering how often people town/scum read others because of tone, you saying that you don’t understand what he’s talking about is weird

no i actually had this opinion since the start i was lazy to post it and went to play some league, it doesnt make any differences because what is written is written .
no it doesnt i have no idea why you are thinking like that.
trying to sr based on tone lol

/vote ryan

Yeah This is scum!ryan
Especially with them pushing me without reason
And I am especially sure they think they can mislynch me , and they need to ML me Because I even became suspicious from their entrance
TBH I wanted to stay on Royee wagon Because their reaction still smells wolf to me , but This is 1000000% Scum .

So posting something that makes me laugh is somehow scummy. But yea I do agree about the ryan thing, but I think it comes from a low wim. I have more to say about this but reads are for later.

Tbh I don’t see it at all ):
I don’t see how the stuff you talked about can be differentiated from just deflection / trying to act edgy, unconcerned, etc.
You should probably just read his whole ISO first imo.

No, no. These three are the ones I'm talking about:
Spoiler:

/vote ryan

Yeah This is scum!ryan
Especially with them pushing me without reason
And I am especially sure they think they can mislynch me , and they need to ML me Because I even became suspicious from their entrance
TBH I wanted to stay on Royee wagon Because their reaction still smells wolf to me , but This is 1000000% Scum .

So posting something that makes me laugh is somehow scummy. But yea I do agree about the ryan thing, but I think it comes from a low wim. I have more to say about this but reads are for later.

Also it was A bit Sad that If Flake is town they made The reaction test and liked Royee's reaction
Like I Knew It was A reaction test at pg1 but after Royee made bad posts , I thought it evolved into A Real read .

TBH I think scum team is 2 of (Chemist , Ryan , Royee )
The one make most sense is Chemist/Royee , but ryan has bigger chance to be scum
So Icg What is scumteam

-"reaction is bad, therefore lynch Royee". Let's say my reaction was serious, why was it bad?
Due to Chemist keeps distancing me he is a scum by your words, what do you think scum would do in this rolelist and how would have they played it?

Just rechecked Ryan's Day 1 ISO of episode and they are very different which fit What I remember
But I Also remembered that Ryan's scum Meta is A bit different , so I am not sure What to think
But here is The deal , ryan know that I know their scum Meta , and I state A suspicion on them from their First post , so they may want to lynch me before go with play More controlled , and control The lynch strategy .
I Seriously Dont know Why ryan would act Like that as town , so that seems only logical explanation .

In your perspective what is Ryan's town meta and scum meta?

Though, it looks like Royee rejected the reasoning, so you're probably right. I'll probably finish going through his ISO during the night phase to see if I can find something better I can use to solve his alignment.