VFM57 - Vig10+Cop9 - Mafia Wins

[UzayAltay]

Suddenly everything started to make sense
But still I am paranoid
But I Will trust myself

[Jalandh]

ya know

i was expecting to be voted here today anyways

just not because im good at being scum though

like i started today planning on doing heavy cop cover by hardclaiming cop with a green check and then either drawing the kill if my green was in fact green or heavily pushing my check the following day if neither of us were killed

However with a cop flip happening, that obviously wasnt gonna happen and i just didnt know where to go from there

I played hella passive to make it seem believeable too which is sad and now im kinda disconnected from the game

basically what im saying is that this is how i am rn with me being a wagon

[Jalandh]

let me clarify

i expected to be voted here because i doubted how well some of you could have hid the fact that i wasnt actually cop and I was thinking you werre gonna cc me or something stupid

[LOLingHyena]

Okay so there's definetely scum in {jal, hyena}

I don't think it's chemist+royee
Dota is town, ejji is prob town
/vote hyena
More sure on this than jal

I skimmed your iso in vfm45 that chemist mentioned and yeah I see the difference
/vote unvote
/unvote

I will reevaluate later

Why didn't you vote Jalandh after unvoting me? You seemed confident that there's definitely scum between the two of us. If I'm not the scum, wouldn't that make Jalandh the scum from your perspective?

[Jalandh]

That play was also what i thought hyena was gonna scum read me for considering their meta on me involves big brain plays

[LOLingHyena]

That play was also what i thought hyena was gonna scum read me for considering their meta on me involves big brain plays

Meh. =/ I wish you hadn't played so passively because of your play, but I get it and get what you were trying to do if you are actually town. If you've got enough WIM, do you think you can talk to me about where you think I am wrong in my townreads/non-SvS reads if you are town?

[Jalandh]

Tbh I’ll probably just end up trying to PoE the scums here
We have 2 lynches left so getting 4 town-reads right most likely just wins the game

I still think dota should most likely be town because of the reasons I mentioned previously.
Uzay is confirmed now
and my read on chemist still stands.
After thinking about it a bit, I THINK I’m ok with adding hyena to the town-block as well.
There should be 2 scums among [hyena, royee, qvap, jal] and as for now I think I’m the most ok with letting hyena out of that bracket

I’m struggling to get a read on royee so tbh I’d prefer to talk to him first
Probably same with qvap… though tbh I will most likely just try to ISO his other games

/vote jal

Youre stuggling for a read on ther of them so you wanna wait to vote but are happy to vote me, this mean you have a confident read on me?

[Jalandh]

That play was also what i thought hyena was gonna scum read me for considering their meta on me involves big brain plays

Meh. =/ I wish you hadn't played so passively because of your play, but I get it and get what you were trying to do if you are actually town. If you've got enough WIM, do you think you can talk to me about where you think I am wrong in my townreads/non-SvS reads if you are town?

Sure was just about to start working backwards and quoting/talking

[Jalandh]

Actually Yeah Jal is probably scum
Because Curse They aren't solving here
They were probably planning to push Chem/Qva team , with ML Chem First , and Than depending others' opinions either bus Qva or TR Qva at one place or taking their word back , possibily bussed by Qva .
/vote Jalandh and Qva at Same time

What

"Arnt solving here" isnt even close to my scum meta, which others have brought up way before now?

[Jalandh]

After looking some more at the first, second, and fourth posts I quoted from Royee in my ISO dive on him, something stood out to me. In the first two posts, Royee is getting annoyed by the way Uzay is reading him, almost as if Uzay is reading him incorrectly. Then, in the fourth post I quoted, I mentioned that it felt less like a defense of Ryan and more like an attempt to question Uzay's ability to read Ryan.

Was Royee questioning Uzay's ability to read Ryan because he thought Uzay was misreading him? If this is the case, this is incredibly towny, and I think it's an incredibly genuine knee-jerk reaction to Uzay possibly misreading him, especially considering that Ryan ended up flipping town. Like, the emotion required to do something like what I think he did is hard to fake as scum, and I don't see Royee being able to pull that out spontaneously.

Thus, now I'm heavily thinking Royee is just town here. I'll go through the rest of his ISO to be sure, but this might be enough to clear him.

I can agree to this actually

[Jalandh]

To put where im at in this game

i still think its Chemist/Qva at this point. If/When i flip, I dont want them to just fly under the radar and win if its them, one of them NEEDs to be lynched tomorrow. Like 100%, the Uzay flips never changes anything, he would be killed because hes vig.

I dont remember many posts of Chemist/Qva talking to each other either, which i think is a reason some people are having issues making teams

[Jalandh]

oh hmm, last page someone quoted where Qva pushed Chem

might have to look into that

[Jalandh]

Idea : Everyone seems So pure
So Let's lynch The players that have most skill at playing scum
/vote Jalandh

[Jalandh]

Hi All
First I want to post What was I drinking when shooting Flake ( in spoiler ) :
This is definitely not A monolog I made at night
Spoiler: Okay , Let's come to The party .
After ryan flip town I am The First one to blamed So I need to shoot correct tonight or I am tomorrow's mislynch
I know I am town
Royee is pmuch town as well
Ejji is town
That leave 4 town and 2 Scum
Unless Dota hardbussed Chemist Dota is town
Chemist is town Hopefully
Like
I had words to say them If they are town
But they Dont feel me scum at Last
Flake is ???
TBH I can shot Flake but If they turn town I am gonna blamed hard post-game

It is probably either Flake/Hyena/Qva or Dota/Chem , Jal somehow seems to me geniune
So
Actually Let me look Flake's ISO again
Wait I forget hyena
My problem about Flake is they never reconsider their read on people D2 until Last CFDs
Dang it
TBH 1/4 is A decent chance to shoot correctly
But it is hard
Dota is town probably
Ejji as well
Royee as welll
2/5 chance here
At (Chem , Flake , Hyena , Qva , Jal )
Teams :
Chem,Flake
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Qva
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Qva
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Qva
Hyena,Jal
Qva,Jal
Actually Qva is probably town as well
Flake wouldnt tunnel Chem at SvS
That leaves
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Jal

Chem,Jal Dont make much sense
TBH Flake feel scum but whatever
Mainly bc they only read A Few players actually
Actually Flake / Jal make little sense , too
So that leaves , Flake , Hyena , right ?
TBH I am More inclined to think Flake is scum Than Hyena


Catching up now

wait you think Qva is town here? Can you show us why?

[Jalandh]

Uhh

Qva needs to answer why they are on Hyena here instead of chemist when Chemist was their biggest scumread d1 and hasnt done anything to change that

[Jalandh]

like Qva hasnt pushed Chemist here once today, only making a single post about them while voting else where

[UzayAltay]

ya know

i was expecting to be voted here today anyways

just not because im good at being scum though

like i started today planning on doing heavy cop cover by hardclaiming cop with a green check and then either drawing the kill if my green was in fact green or heavily pushing my check the following day if neither of us were killed

However with a cop flip happening, that obviously wasnt gonna happen and i just didnt know where to go from there

I played hella passive to make it seem believeable too which is sad and now im kinda disconnected from the game

basically what im saying is that this is how i am rn with me being a wagon

Dont expect me to believe This for now

[Jalandh]

ya know

i was expecting to be voted here today anyways

just not because im good at being scum though

like i started today planning on doing heavy cop cover by hardclaiming cop with a green check and then either drawing the kill if my green was in fact green or heavily pushing my check the following day if neither of us were killed

However with a cop flip happening, that obviously wasnt gonna happen and i just didnt know where to go from there

I played hella passive to make it seem believeable too which is sad and now im kinda disconnected from the game

basically what im saying is that this is how i am rn with me being a wagon

Dont expect me to believe This for now

Believe which part?

[UzayAltay]

Actually Yeah Jal is probably scum
Because Curse They aren't solving here
They were probably planning to push Chem/Qva team , with ML Chem First , and Than depending others' opinions either bus Qva or TR Qva at one place or taking their word back , possibily bussed by Qva .
/vote Jalandh and Qva at Same time

What

"Arnt solving here" isnt even close to my scum meta, which others have brought up way before now?

[UzayAltay]

ya know

i was expecting to be voted here today anyways

just not because im good at being scum though

like i started today planning on doing heavy cop cover by hardclaiming cop with a green check and then either drawing the kill if my green was in fact green or heavily pushing my check the following day if neither of us were killed

However with a cop flip happening, that obviously wasnt gonna happen and i just didnt know where to go from there

I played hella passive to make it seem believeable too which is sad and now im kinda disconnected from the game

basically what im saying is that this is how i am rn with me being a wagon

Dont expect me to believe This for now

Believe which part?

" I am passive Because I couldnt apply my play "
For example , Why You didnt Said that until You are voted ?

[UzayAltay]

Hi All
First I want to post What was I drinking when shooting Flake ( in spoiler ) :
This is definitely not A monolog I made at night
Spoiler: Okay , Let's come to The party .
After ryan flip town I am The First one to blamed So I need to shoot correct tonight or I am tomorrow's mislynch
I know I am town
Royee is pmuch town as well
Ejji is town
That leave 4 town and 2 Scum
Unless Dota hardbussed Chemist Dota is town
Chemist is town Hopefully
Like
I had words to say them If they are town
But they Dont feel me scum at Last
Flake is ???
TBH I can shot Flake but If they turn town I am gonna blamed hard post-game

It is probably either Flake/Hyena/Qva or Dota/Chem , Jal somehow seems to me geniune
So
Actually Let me look Flake's ISO again
Wait I forget hyena
My problem about Flake is they never reconsider their read on people D2 until Last CFDs
Dang it
TBH 1/4 is A decent chance to shoot correctly
But it is hard
Dota is town probably
Ejji as well
Royee as welll
2/5 chance here
At (Chem , Flake , Hyena , Qva , Jal )
Teams :
Chem,Flake
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Qva
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Qva
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Qva
Hyena,Jal
Qva,Jal
Actually Qva is probably town as well
Flake wouldnt tunnel Chem at SvS
That leaves
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Jal

Chem,Jal Dont make much sense
TBH Flake feel scum but whatever
Mainly bc they only read A Few players actually
Actually Flake / Jal make little sense , too
So that leaves , Flake , Hyena , right ?
TBH I am More inclined to think Flake is scum Than Hyena


Catching up now

wait you think Qva is town here? Can you show us why?

Ehem ehem that is A monolog I made at night

[Jalandh]

ya know

i was expecting to be voted here today anyways

just not because im good at being scum though

like i started today planning on doing heavy cop cover by hardclaiming cop with a green check and then either drawing the kill if my green was in fact green or heavily pushing my check the following day if neither of us were killed

However with a cop flip happening, that obviously wasnt gonna happen and i just didnt know where to go from there

I played hella passive to make it seem believeable too which is sad and now im kinda disconnected from the game

basically what im saying is that this is how i am rn with me being a wagon

Dont expect me to believe This for now

Believe which part?

" I am passive Because I couldnt apply my play "
For example , Why You didnt Said that until You are voted ?

Because the reason I was playing passive before didnt matter until i needed to explain it

I mentioned I was attempting one but it failed before it really got off earlier when talking to hyena

[Jalandh]

Hi All
First I want to post What was I drinking when shooting Flake ( in spoiler ) :
This is definitely not A monolog I made at night
Spoiler: Okay , Let's come to The party .
After ryan flip town I am The First one to blamed So I need to shoot correct tonight or I am tomorrow's mislynch
I know I am town
Royee is pmuch town as well
Ejji is town
That leave 4 town and 2 Scum
Unless Dota hardbussed Chemist Dota is town
Chemist is town Hopefully
Like
I had words to say them If they are town
But they Dont feel me scum at Last
Flake is ???
TBH I can shot Flake but If they turn town I am gonna blamed hard post-game

It is probably either Flake/Hyena/Qva or Dota/Chem , Jal somehow seems to me geniune
So
Actually Let me look Flake's ISO again
Wait I forget hyena
My problem about Flake is they never reconsider their read on people D2 until Last CFDs
Dang it
TBH 1/4 is A decent chance to shoot correctly
But it is hard
Dota is town probably
Ejji as well
Royee as welll
2/5 chance here
At (Chem , Flake , Hyena , Qva , Jal )
Teams :
Chem,Flake
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Qva
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Qva
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Qva
Hyena,Jal
Qva,Jal
Actually Qva is probably town as well
Flake wouldnt tunnel Chem at SvS
That leaves
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Jal

Chem,Jal Dont make much sense
TBH Flake feel scum but whatever
Mainly bc they only read A Few players actually
Actually Flake / Jal make little sense , too
So that leaves , Flake , Hyena , right ?
TBH I am More inclined to think Flake is scum Than Hyena


Catching up now

wait you think Qva is town here? Can you show us why?

Ehem ehem that is A monolog I made at night

A flake cop flip makes Qva scum? o.o

[UzayAltay]

And TBH Faking cop as town make no sense
Seems to me More scum play
First claim = townier
And any sane cop would CC You

[UzayAltay]

Hi All
First I want to post What was I drinking when shooting Flake ( in spoiler ) :
This is definitely not A monolog I made at night
Spoiler: Okay , Let's come to The party .
After ryan flip town I am The First one to blamed So I need to shoot correct tonight or I am tomorrow's mislynch
I know I am town
Royee is pmuch town as well
Ejji is town
That leave 4 town and 2 Scum
Unless Dota hardbussed Chemist Dota is town
Chemist is town Hopefully
Like
I had words to say them If they are town
But they Dont feel me scum at Last
Flake is ???
TBH I can shot Flake but If they turn town I am gonna blamed hard post-game

It is probably either Flake/Hyena/Qva or Dota/Chem , Jal somehow seems to me geniune
So
Actually Let me look Flake's ISO again
Wait I forget hyena
My problem about Flake is they never reconsider their read on people D2 until Last CFDs
Dang it
TBH 1/4 is A decent chance to shoot correctly
But it is hard
Dota is town probably
Ejji as well
Royee as welll
2/5 chance here
At (Chem , Flake , Hyena , Qva , Jal )
Teams :
Chem,Flake
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Qva
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Qva
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Qva
Hyena,Jal
Qva,Jal
Actually Qva is probably town as well
Flake wouldnt tunnel Chem at SvS
That leaves
Chem,Hyena
Chem,Jal
Flake,Hyena
Flake,Jal
Hyena,Jal

Chem,Jal Dont make much sense
TBH Flake feel scum but whatever
Mainly bc they only read A Few players actually
Actually Flake / Jal make little sense , too
So that leaves , Flake , Hyena , right ?
TBH I am More inclined to think Flake is scum Than Hyena


Catching up now

wait you think Qva is town here? Can you show us why?

Ehem ehem that is A monolog I made at night

A flake cop flip makes Qva scum? o.o

Actually me countercheckewing VFM 56 ISO with that Game