SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Ending)

[FMLSheWas12]

I think Moon has clears on HTG & Uzay given her poor pushes. I think Moon also may have had a clear on Chemist because of her initial push, but sudden defense after Chemist pushed Seth which is a poor reason.

I initially liked her defense of Cenvil for the mindmeld, but honestly, all her town reads have been weak defenses on players that garnered so much thread pressure that they were likely to be lynched/vengeful shot.

I could see Flake being baited by a perspective slip though, especially since he did actually catch one, so I could see him trying to corner scum like that.

My theory that moon just wanted to delay the game as possible to run out of time and always defended the top wagon. (regardless if its their townclear or not.)
There are a lot of signs in their ISO if you read it with this in your mind.

I think moon voted Chemist D2 but it was still a very late CFD (Cenvil was the original wagon) so perhaps your theory can still hold true.

I think she may have just wanted credibility, and it worked since I felt her defense of Cenvil was townie at first.

I feel pretty strongly about the innermost nested quote. Of course Moon probably only has one or two townclears in the examples mentioned but I still find the behavior scum motivated to be whiteknighting but having little force in redirecting (from moon's point of view) town wagons then preparing more mislynches.

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Wabbit is often more eccentric and creative with his contribution (at least citing back SFM56) whereas his content now is the run-in-the-mill observations. I do think he's still within a town range though tone wise so it's a hard judgement call.

[Eragon1329]

for scum im looking at a scumcore of (Ms. Cenvil Faraday, Ms. Moon Wright, and Ms. Wabbit Skye)

with Mr. Evil Blackquill and Old Alien Bag Lady being the eccentric PoE

[Eragon1329]

oh and Mystic Maya is in my PoE block even though she is lock-town in my heart

[FMLSheWas12]

I think Flake coming into the thread and generally having mindmelds, although we disagree on some outlier reads, we have very similar POE pools so that might be a good sign. I think we'll continue to just respect each others scum games though.

[FMLSheWas12]

sigh

do i actually have to out my gameplan to show cenvil is basically never wolf

i would rather not

Bro just keep me alive. :)

Athough I don't agree with "never", it's likely he lives in most endgames in my ideal universe.

[Eragon1329]

towncore: ain't never gonna give you up
- ME MS. PEARLY
-Mr. Larryteeth

Probably good town: don't wanna give you up
-Ms. Mia (FML)
-Mr. flake gumshoe

POE who are you?
-Mystic Maya (uzay)
-Old alien Bag Lady (Multi)
-Mr. Evil Blackquill

Traitors to me i dont wanna look at you
-Ms. Moon Wright
-Ms. Wabbit Skye

Traitors to Man-kind and Woman-kind I want you dead
-Ms. Cenvil Faraday

[Eragon1329]

I think Flake coming into the thread and generally having mindmelds, although we disagree on some outlier reads, we have very similar POE pools so that might be a good sign. I think we'll continue to just respect each others scum games though.

what

sigh

do i actually have to out my gameplan to show cenvil is basically never wolf

i would rather not

i dont see it

[Eragon1329]

i'm more confident that cenvil flips town than anyone in the game by a significant margin for reasons

so unless you think i'm scum or an idiot, i'll leave it at that

I think its very possible you could be wrong on a read, scum, or an idiot

:^)

[MrChuckleteeth]

I think I'd look into Wabbit, moon and Uzay today.

My towncore atm is basically only Eragon, and I'm thinking about whether to add FML to it or not.

I have reasons to townread Flake and Multi, but not enough to confidently add them to my towncore. ED is also up for debate but given their activity I'm not willing to put them in my towncore either.

[FMLSheWas12]

I think Flake coming into the thread and generally having mindmelds, although we disagree on some outlier reads, we have very similar POE pools so that might be a good sign. I think we'll continue to just respect each others scum games though.

what

sigh

do i actually have to out my gameplan to show cenvil is basically never wolf

i would rather not

i dont see it

There are a few exceptions which I've given Flake a hard time for but we agree more often than not by a marginal amount. I think that's a good sign.

We'll probably just keep each other in our POE out of respect for each other's scum range though.

[FMLSheWas12]

I think I'd look into Wabbit, moon and Uzay today.

My towncore atm is basically only Eragon, and I'm thinking about whether to add FML to it or not.

I have reasons to townread Flake and Multi, but not enough to confidently add them to my towncore. ED is also up for debate but given their activity I'm not willing to put them in my towncore either.

Fasten up you're in for a wild ride.

[Eragon1329]

I think I'd look into Wabbit, moon and Uzay today.

My towncore atm is basically only Eragon, and I'm thinking about whether to add FML to it or not.

I have reasons to townread Flake and Multi, but not enough to confidently add them to my towncore. ED is also up for debate but given their activity I'm not willing to put them in my towncore either.

where is Ms. Cenvil Faraday


p-edit: Ah, understood

pp-edit:

[Eragon1329]

i want to say multi is town because they'd be playing well if they are scum

i mentioned this in a wall but i specifically like their thought process behind giving you towncred for your response to Ms. Cenvil Faraday's paltry attempt to make you slip

so yeah i think they are on the townier side for me but not enough to make me not want to lynch them

[Eragon1329]

ugh idk if its worth outing my reason for thinking cenvil should be cleared or not

i'll do it if people start trying to lynch them probably

do it so if i get enlightened i can re-look at this game and accept my badness

i dont see anything in Ms. cenvil Faraday's ISO that outweighs the bad

[Eragon1329]

also what reason would you have for not outing it in the first place if it helps solve the game?

[Eragon1329]

Is it something better said at a different point in time?

[FMLSheWas12]

Is it something better said at a different point in time?

I usually don't out meta unless I need to argue for a win fwiw.

[Eragon1329]

Is it something better said at a different point in time?

I usually don't out meta unless I need to argue for a win fwiw.

ive never seen Ms.cenvil faraday play like this so i doubt its meta

but im just asking MR. flake Gumshoe if theres any harm in saying it

[Eragon1329]

so there would be possible harm to out it?

if its really as strong as you say, im willing to trust you on this for today if you will out it tomorrow

[Eragon1329]

so there would be possible harm to out it?

if its really as strong as you say, im willing to trust you on this for today if you will out it tomorrow

actually im probably willing to hold out until trial 7 but i'd rather not keep it that late because that runs a lot closer to the time when winning and losing becomes more apparant
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[MrChuckleteeth]

ugh idk if its worth outing my reason for thinking cenvil should be cleared or not

i'll do it if people start trying to lynch them probably

I mean I still think Cenvil is scum, I just want to pressure moon at the moment.

[Eragon1329]

im sorry i had to do it

[MrChuckleteeth]

also what reason would you have for not outing it in the first place if it helps solve the game?

because it's a relatively strong strategy that likely wolves do not yet realise they should be counter playing

giving my reasons for why cenvil is very likely town outs this strategy

Understandable.

[MrChuckleteeth]

so there would be possible harm to out it?

if its really as strong as you say, im willing to trust you on this for today if you will out it tomorrow

yes

it's strong if town abuses it

which we have really not yet

I think I know what you are getting at, the problem is that if at least 1 wolf picks up on it then the strategy is basically useless. Right?

[Eragon1329]

so there would be possible harm to out it?

if its really as strong as you say, im willing to trust you on this for today if you will out it tomorrow

yes

it's strong if town abuses it

which we have really not yet

and i still have no idea what you are talking about

and its murdering my brain

but my gut tells me to trust you a little