MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.
resolve uzay or htg ffs
Nice scumslip . You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at #3206902 You want me vengekilled When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon . /vote moonbird I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .
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I was talking about tsfois's shot because cenvil was a hot trash shot to take?
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I think Moon has clears on HTG & Uzay given her poor pushes. I think Moon also may have had a clear on Chemist because of her initial push, but sudden defense after Chemist pushed Seth which is a poor reason.
I initially liked her defense of Cenvil for the mindmeld, but honestly, all her town reads have been weak defenses on players that garnered so much thread pressure that they were likely to be lynched/vengeful shot.
I could see Flake being baited by a perspective slip though, especially since he did actually catch one, so I could see him trying to corner scum like that.
My theory that moon just wanted to delay the game as possible to run out of time and always defended the top wagon. (regardless if its their townclear or not.) There are a lot of signs in their ISO if you read it with this in your mind.
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I think Moon has clears on HTG & Uzay given her poor pushes. I think Moon also may have had a clear on Chemist because of her initial push, but sudden defense after Chemist pushed Seth which is a poor reason.
I initially liked her defense of Cenvil for the mindmeld, but honestly, all her town reads have been weak defenses on players that garnered so much thread pressure that they were likely to be lynched/vengeful shot.
I could see Flake being baited by a perspective slip though, especially since he did actually catch one, so I could see him trying to corner scum like that.
My theory that moon just wanted to delay the game as possible to run out of time and always defended the top wagon. (regardless if its their townclear or not.) There are a lot of signs in their ISO if you read it with this in your mind.
I think moon voted Chemist D2 but it was still a very late CFD (Cenvil was the original wagon) so perhaps your theory can still hold true.
I think she may have just wanted credibility, and it worked since I felt her defense of Cenvil was townie at first.
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MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.
resolve uzay or htg ffs
Nice scumslip . You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at #3206902 You want me vengekilled When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon . /vote moonbird I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .
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I was talking about tsfois's shot because cenvil was a hot trash shot to take?
It is not even close to What I am saying here .
Can't anyone be venged?
I don't think a mechanic oversight is alignment indicative ftr.
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MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.
resolve uzay or htg ffs
Nice scumslip . You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at 3206902 You want me vengekilled When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon . /vote moonbird I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .
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I was talking about tsfois's shot because cenvil was a hot trash shot to take?
heytheregirl17 wrote:Mister Apollo Justice, here is the issue with your case from my viewpoint. It is in no way alignment indicative of Seth's alignment due to the fact that all information regarding the vengekills is contained within the role card, which is publicly available information. The two places where he could have learned about the vengekills are either within his own rolecard, which is confirmed not to be the case, or the sample in the OP. A third source, one which Seth directly quoted, is from the game's proposal thread, a link to which is also available on the OP. The two in-game sources both contain the vengekill information identically. Since we know that Seth did not see such information on his rolecard, we know exactly where he found the information, in that proposal thread.
Furthermore, this is the most likely place Seth also learned of the Traitor flavor for the entirety of the mafia, and not a subsection of Mafia members. He made a very apt guess that the Traitor flavor lined up to the standard Traitor role, implying that he would not have known that the Mafia were completely separated before learning this flavor applied to the entire Mafia. Therefore, Traitor is unlikely to be Seth's alignment!
Take That!
There goes THIS theory...
i still dont like these constant pop-ins that are either shade or un-related to important discussion
Multiuniverse wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:tbh i just wanna get lynched d1 so that i kill a mafia and don't have to worry about this game anymore
if i kill a townie, oh well, OMGIS
alright i realised that these two posts sound like gamethrowing so ignore them
dota you're not providing the content I need you to provide for me to read you properly.
This post seems very weird to me and almost as if traitor!chuckle is trying to signal to Dota who isn't one of his clears.
Chuckle expressed quite a strong read on Dota so this really doesn't make sense.
/vote chuckle
I havent fully read phone, but I'm comfortable here.
Got one
expressing already obvious town chuckle as a town clear
Cenvil2 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
moonbird wrote:/vote htg
channeling my inner psychic
In other news, moving out tmrw so posting may be spotty until the evening, nothing out of the ordinary for this game and I but yeetus
Is this tied to their stand that Seth's slip isn't enough to warrant a lynch?
If that would be the case Multi, Chuck and FML all would be suspicious.
S v S interaction isn't a thing in this game so
Traitors still can defend a potential ally.
i mean, yes they can, but 1. how would they know? 2. why would they risk suspicion on themselves over someone else
Cenvil2 wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:Cenvil, let me pose this question.
I am poised in a widely townread position. I am at a place where if we found a few scum I could easily be able to sneak past a paranoia vote without even being considered.
Why, then, would I stick out my neck for Seth, a player who is definitely not going to be able to hold a position like I would? How would my defense get me any closer to the goal of surviving to the endgame? I would look the fool for association with such foolishness, would I not?
Traitors goal is not surviving to the endgame. Their goal to make discord for making town lose. Defending a scummy player alongside with other cynics definetly make a discord.
Also it is not your defense which makes you scummy.
Your failure to notice a possible slip definetly cost us.
Your later approach also gave him a chance to redeem themself (with a little more clever Seth we could have "just a scummy town")
For the traitor's misfortune Seth said the only thing which made this harder/almost impossible.
For the cynic's luck Chemist was persistent with their shoot.
If one or both abovd would not have happened, the whole existence of Seth would make a perfect scenario for traitors.
traitor does indeed have a goal of surviving
how would the existence of seth make a perfect scenario for traitors?
Cenvil2 wrote:If town lose, mafia win. Is it not the case?
and we are back to talking about wincons i want to make this a meme ngl
I'm still iffy on Wabbit. He's more of a null-scum but still a borderline fencesit on his alignment flip and I'd like him resolved anyway.
I still townlean both Flake and Multi but out of all my townleans, that's probably where a POE line would be drawn.
Why is ED that high
TL:DR; He's my ride or die tone read.
FMLSheWas12 wrote:Ed reminds me a lot of SFM56 (a recent town game). I find he's pretty involved in dialogue but doesn't necessarily feel compelled to make himself appear townie externally by forcing out reads. I think he set himself up to potentially move onto Phone by critiquing his logic so ultimately rejecting both lead D1 wagons off gut seems townie.
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MrChuckleteeth wrote:Also, consider that Noveiia, Cham and Phone all voted for Qvapil today, before me, dota or Albanix ever did.
Me and dota refused to hammer when we had the chance to. If scum!me or scum!dota knew that Qvapil was a mislynch, we would have hammered and caused the game to turn into a MyLo LyLo situation straight away. So I think we can remove the possibility of dota and/or me being scum with any of the three in the wagon.
Also remember doctor is unclaimed.
good job Mr. larryteeth
Multiuniverse wrote:Cenvil/Uzay/tfios with an ed wildcard Pick your poison
am i allowed to say at least 2 of them :^)
Flake wrote:town
epic
Mr. flake Gumshoe i thought you were a detective not "town" what happened to your old job you scruffy Mr. Flake Gumshoe
Cenvil2 wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:town
epic
So
If you are town
Who is your townclear?
I mean from the 4 names on your rolecard. 1 of them is 100% town.
omega facepalms like only a teenager or a kid can do
Flake wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:There's a degree of uncertainty that makes me feel like digging into Chemist's D2》D3 wagon difference wouldn't yield results the way everyone is looking for.
It would be better to triangulate the townpeeks of Jamez/Seth as we are more certain that what we're looking for exists. Chemist wagon is more of sifting who had less convincing reasons to vote them off.
are you a wolf yes or no
Mr. flake gumshoe lock-scum for saying this after doing this in NFMNFM /s
but it is actually something to not
(@flake have you done this "are you a wolf" thing in towngames too?)
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:town
epic
So
If you are town
Who is your townclear?
I mean from the 4 names on your rolecard. 1 of them is 100% town.
no
?
That is...
A definetly weird answer.
i don't know what you expected as an answer with that question
Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I would like to point it out that the vote cenvil made to end the paranoia was in green. The actual color needed is red. So stop jumping to conclusions over something that is likely a fucking joke.
wolf!goomba with a clear on villager!cenvil anyone
but is (goomba) wrong? it was obviously a joke.
Flake wrote:im going through the whole thread to find erroneous wordings from wolves brb
I look up to you Mr. Flake gumshoe i wanna be like you when i grow up (literal look up kek)
Flake wrote:I want everyone to give me the number of traitors which they feel is most likely to be present in this game, including the dead traitor
my prediction is 4 traitors (3 remaining)
anyone who does not give an estimate can die
i agree that an amount of 3-5 traitors in the game would indeed be realistic, thus an average of 4 would be a relevant conclusion as an average number
Flake wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:I think Cenvil2 is town. Discuss.
there is literally nothing town indicative in my previous post... Do You know something that others dont?
v
self depricating
why is self-depricating villager especially when Ms. cenvil Faraday has only posted 3 posts at the time and 2 were nowhere near related to game
and what do you think about "do you know something that others don't" shade?
Flake wrote:FML taking this game seriously pings me slightly
uh tbh i do see it slightly coming off of brexit FM
but im still town-clearing Ms. Mia because hes towny regardless of taking it seriously in regards to brexit/this game
Flake wrote:im like fairly certain uzay flips villager
explain
Flake wrote:chuckle is likely villager here
if he is wolf he is playing very well
yes chuckle is like -obvious town -and then also assumed to be towncleared by jamez/seth
tfiosforevah wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:It also relies tfios to have two clears on Phone & Dota which is unlikely because those were the two people Multi was yelling at.
((First few days were about roleplaying for me and relying heavily on flavor for my posts until realizing many people don’t get the references which is definitely an oof...
Cenvil is right about me referencing the character, oldbag accuses just about everybody in game
Other than Flake’s misinterpretation of flavor, I like his progression so far for replacing in. I’d like to see what chuckle thinks of him after making that wall against olly.))
(i got the references and i still luv ur reperesentation bb)
Flake wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:Phone if you get lynched please resolve Dota too.
We're not gonna be able to move past this otherwise.
This post feels like you know that Phone flips town.
hasnt like almost every single person in the game said something like this
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:town
epic
So
If you are town
Who is your townclear?
I mean from the 4 names on your rolecard. 1 of them is 100% town.
no
?
That is...
A definetly weird answer.
Actually imo it's a good answer because it shows that they know that scum gets townclears and town dont so I think as scum they may try and get derpcleared town by saying that they dont have the name and passing it off as they not knowing the game mechanic
Ms. old alien bag lady had a good thought for once (flavor)
town points
Multiuniverse wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:Flake I'm curious as to why you scumread Wabbit.
Can you please elaborate on that read?
> response-based gameplay > doesn't push own reads > literally almost zero thread presence > bad tempo
I'd list more but I wouldn't want to steal Flake's answers.
Ngl bad look after flake townreads cenvil for self depreciating
Mr. Wabbit Skye has been doing this basically the full game though
Kill the person at the top, if they're town, they kill the person below them. Repeat until 2 more traitors are dead. Then we can re-evaluate
why am i high on the list and why is wabbit so low
Flake wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Flake do you not have a read on me or have you just not read any of my posts And why do you townread cenvil
ive only read d1 but most of your d1 can come from you as either alignment apart from maybe noticing dota's "town slip" which i think is more likely to come from you as villager
ah yes carry on then
TheWabbit wrote:wait is htg bad now?
idk you decide
Flake wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
Flake wrote:town
epic
So
If you are town
Who is your townclear?
I mean from the 4 names on your rolecard. 1 of them is 100% town.
no
?
That is...
A definetly weird answer.
Actually imo it's a good answer because it shows that they know that scum gets townclears and town dont so I think as scum they may try and get derpcleared town by saying that they dont have the name and passing it off as they not knowing the game mechanic
town points
fucking mood lol
Flake wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
Flake wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:Good morning everyone, I want to let everyone know that I'll refuse to vote for tfios this game
if this isn't a sign that my slot is obvious villager i don't know what is
I don't think that's AI.
imo olly would probably be too scared to say that as wolf in case they get suspected of having a town clear on tfios
heytheregirl17 wrote:(it occurs to me that eragon has not posted song lyrics yet If he ends up being scum I'm gonna be so mad)
sadly song lyrics do not fit within the constraints of the flavor and/or the upholdings of court, so were i to be following flavor, i could not post song lyrics
Flake wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:(it occurs to me that eragon has not posted song lyrics yet If he ends up being scum I'm gonna be so mad)
pretty sure eragon flips v based on his cenvil takes
i'd make a near identical case were i around then
weird thing is what cenvil did was both very villagery and very wolfy at the same time
story of my crippling depression
Cenvil2 wrote:I like how people does not read the enviroment of a post and repeats what others already said. (Well, I did the same, so I cannot blame anyone)
very uh
deep and meaningful thoughts
UzayAltay wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:OllyRenard has requested replacement.
...
Flake will be replacing OllyRenard.
Are You Scared from Flake Replacing ?
i think this is reading way too much into an emoji and feels like opportunistic shade
Flake wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:@Chem Who would you kill if you were lynched today?
like ive said hasnt like almost everyone said this
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:@Chem Who would you kill if you were lynched today?
This is Interesting .
ok do you have an opinion
Flake wrote:yeah im pretty sure cenvil is a ml
more changes
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I'm pretty sure people have pulled the "why are you assuming this player can vengekill?" line so often that it's evident players are preparing for an inevitable mechanic instead of an actual slip.
You know Eragon accused you, Cenvil, that you knew Phone would flip town and tried to signal a vengeful kill target right? It's not out of question to allow the idea that you're wrong on a read either.
preach, cousin
Cenvil2 wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I'm pretty sure people have pulled the "why are you assuming this player can vengekill?" line so often that it's evident players are preparing for an inevitable mechanic instead of an actual slip.
You know Eragon accused you, Cenvil, that you knew Phone would flip town and tried to signal a vengeful kill target right? It's not out of question to allow the idea that you're wrong on a read either.
Anyone can be wrong on a read. I can be too. I never made any readlist from this same reason.
I mostly play from instincts.
And my instincts says now that the flip-flop from Flake on me is suspicious.
thats not at all what FML was talking about the fact that you are accusing others for what you did in greater attempt is wolfy
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I'm pretty sure people have pulled the "why are you assuming this player can vengekill?" line so often that it's evident players are preparing for an inevitable mechanic instead of an actual slip.
You know Eragon accused you, Cenvil, that you knew Phone would flip town and tried to signal a vengeful kill target right? It's not out of question to allow the idea that you're wrong on a read either.
Anyone can be wrong on a read. I can be too. I never made any readlist from this same reason.
I mostly play from instincts.
And my instincts says now that the flip-flop from Flake on me is suspicious.
Oh were you quoting that post to demonstrate that players asking about vengeful kills is NAI?
I agree that people can be wrong on reads but we shouldn't duplicate generally faulty reasoning such as "did you just ASSUME I have a vengeful kill?". If you agree with me then I just misinterpreted the reason you tried to get Flake's attention with that quote so nevermind.
cenvil said "why do you assume i have a vengekill" so i assume that they werent demonstrating talking about venge kills is NAI
Multiuniverse wrote:Chemist voted cenvil so thats also an ez venge shot Cenvil is L-3
what is your purpose in quoting this evidence Mr. Flake Gumshoe?
Flake wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:I understand that not reading your rolecard and slipping this fact is bound to gather suspicion. I've a soft spot for Seth because I did the exact same thing and tried skimming flavour the first read through.
The only difference is that I'm smart enough and didn't get caught.