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ChamAlien wrote:/vote noveiia
Phone0Ix wrote:So Albanix is Tracker? Ok, also who says they tracked watchme n1? Maybe the Tracker forgot to track
ChamAlien wrote:Why the fuck did tracker claim
Eragon1329 wrote:so my time is patchy right now so im doing things in steps
first off, lets talk about yesterday's quickhammer
chuckle voted noveiia with sound reasoning and posted their thoughts about the game
Dota is fine voting noveia because they are lock-scum to them
cham is online and quickhammersChamAlien wrote:/vote noveiia
-no explanation
-no pre-emption
-was not asked to quickhammer
Frankly, when i checked thread before flip but after hammer, i thought noveia was gonna flip town and cham/dota won
so i was genuinely happy to see noveia flip scum, especially consort
so lets look at this scenario from a town!tracker PoV and a scum PoV
Town!tracker, if cham was town, would indeed know that i am scum, but would not know if dota or noveia is scum
i do not see any sound reasoning for town without a confirmed lynch would be willing to quickhammer in lylo
besides that, no one was actually wanting a quickhammer, and it takes away discussion and interaction time, a further minus
from a scum PoV
cham KNOWS that noveiea is scum, right
and cham knows that 2 town are currently voting noveiea
so if cham is online, which they were, and DOESNT HAMMER noviea, if noviea or cham ends up being a lynch, this confirms them as a scumteam, because if noveia was town, then cham would have straight quickhammered for the win
the ONLY option to lead for a possible win for Scum!cham here is to quickhammer Noveia for the "towncred" of lynching scum, but even though in a void this would look good, in this scenario, any other option would confirm that as the scumteam
Eragon1329 wrote:Phone0Ix wrote:So Albanix is Tracker? Ok, also who says they tracked watchme n1? Maybe the Tracker forgot to trackChamAlien wrote:Why the fuck did tracker claim
next, lets talk about reactions to albanix's fake claim
Phoneix knows that albanix is lying, and softs it asking "is albanix really claiming tracker, who says they tracked watchme?"
and then softs their own circumstances saying "maybe the tracker forgot to track"
which unless you want to follow a series of demented coincedences, this always comes from someone who has knowledge of the tracker, which would be... yes, the tracker
moving to cham's reaction. Its the standard "town" reaction to a claim. "why the fuck would you claim when there isnt a reason to"
but look at how its worded
"why the fuck did tracker claim"
this proves that cham actually believed the claim, and shows a standard level of "shock" at a town PR claiming for no good apparant reason
perfectly acceptablly towny in normal circumstances, but not a real tracker's response to a fakeclaim.
so on top of phone's reaction being a soft for his role and confirmed a soft unless some weird convuluted shit, cham's reaction is not a tracker's response to a fakeclaim, and instead just the baseline "towny" response
MrChuckleteeth wrote:You better have an immaculate case which proves that you are town and Cham is scum, Eragon.
I’ll wait. For now.
ChamAlien wrote:noveiia wrote:I didn’t see this started. I don’t really think them forgetting consort is alignment indicative, however if I had to pick if that’s more scum or town, it’s definitely more town.
As for Seth, I feel like he’s just trying to point fingers for no real reason early game.
I agree with the first part. For second part, I don't really think if its indicative but very recently I was playing a game with him and he pointed finger early in that game as scum. But I didn't compare those games.
ChamAlien wrote:So dota is most likely town
I have townleans on Whirlwind and noveiia
ChamAlien wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:noveiia wrote:dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD
This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.
This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.
/vote noveiia
I doubt lying = scum though... They probably forgot they was.
ChamAlien wrote:Phone0Ix wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:noveiia wrote:dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD
This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.
This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.
/vote noveiia
And you can die for this
/vote WhirlwindWarrior
It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)
Voting someone for not because thinking they are scum but because they lied/forgot about their past looks opportunistic to me.
ChamAlien wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:noveiia wrote:dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD
This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.
This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.
/vote noveiia
If you are the person who I'm thinking then you might actually be scum for this, I thought you would vote better
ChamAlien wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:ChamAlien wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:Phone0Ix wrote:Whirlwindwarrior wrote:noveiia wrote:dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD
This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.
This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.
/vote noveiia
And you can die for this
/vote WhirlwindWarrior
It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)
It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.
Are you the person in the signup's playerlist?
Quite likely.
/vote Whirlwindwarrior You can't be believing scum lied about their meta to trick us... I mean people play here together, it's obvious if someone lies about their meta.
ChamAlien wrote:Im obvtown and this is a trusttell.. maf gonna kill me for this or Ill get banned
ChamAlien wrote:I think most towniest person is the nove guy who townslippled. Most sus guy is chemist >:/
ChamAlien wrote:noveiia wrote:Qvapil wrote:Ok I just realised, with mafia's n0, dota's claim and assuming we lynch a cit, that leaves 6 people on mafia's poe meaning they will have a 50% chance to kill a pr tonight.
What’s the “n0”?
ChamAlien wrote:I asked the same thing but I faked slips as scum in past... I'm town now tho
ChamAlien wrote:/vote Whirlwindwarrior
They didn't do much other than pushing a mistake (Which is not scum indicative and I'm sure they know this)
ChamAlien wrote:dota2reporter wrote:[cham, noveiia, watchme] contains a scum
Just because we said it is www? Also scum can do wide range of things to get townread, like acting too wolfy to be a wolf. Hammering an obvious lynch does not clear someone. I am saying Www is suspicious not because they hammered (I don't think that's inherently scummy) but because
1) they haven't been contributing as I would expect from them
2) they pushed a mistake
3) they could have said anything before the hammer but chose to not. They hammered without saying anything.
ChamAlien wrote:This game is underwhelming tbh, I don't have any townreads other than the townslip guy and citclaim guy. I will probably detailed ISO qveipa because I skimmed and their ISO looks good.
ChamAlien wrote:What were you saying about nove slip?
ChamAlien wrote:I didn't read after watchme was outed but this feels right
/vote noveiia
This and qva I think
ChamAlien wrote:Maybe let's lynch inactive first so they won't be needed to replaced? What you guys think?
ChamAlien wrote:dota2reporter wrote:noveiia wrote:Sorry for the late responses guys, I slept in due to being sick. Anyway while it is unlikely doctor would heal their scum read, I kinda do see logic even if it’s odd. Dota could’ve been cop claiming citizen so mafia wouldn’t bother with them, and watchme could’ve somehow deduced that as a possibility so he healed someone he didn’t think was cop due to them being a scum in his eyes. He couldn’t go for the more townie players as they might be doctor. Plus to win Mafia has to kill the actual doctor which upon death would just out watchme. However, it’s possible mafia just thinks they’ll get majority before the doctor dies. That’s why I don’t know what to make of this claim. I’m going to try to eat something then I’ll look at watchme’s isos and see if I find anything hinting towards them being mafia or doctor. I’ll also look at Qvas if we’re assuminf they’re scumbuddies.
this post confirms noveiia as scum at this point
Meh It feels weird that mafia would obviously protect their red-checked partner like that
ChamAlien wrote:noveiia wrote:Wait so I’m scum because of two posts that I made and finding Seth scummy? Considering he got hammered the majority found him scummy. Even if all three scum end up on the wagon, that means myself and two other towns all found him scummy.
Anyway, there hasn’t been any outings of other doctors and while I doubt watchme is town, it’s possible and I don’t want to lynch a PR. Since Qva is likely his scum buddy I’m voting him instead just in case watchme is just bad at being doctor.
/vote Qvapil
Ugh I think scum would go for red checked partner instead of other one
I think there is 1 scum between [qva, nove] and [chuckle, phone]
ChamAlien wrote:dota2reporter wrote:ChamAlien wrote:noveiia wrote:Sorry for the late responses guys, I slept in due to being sick. Anyway while it is unlikely doctor would heal their scum read, I kinda do see logic even if it’s odd. Dota could’ve been cop claiming citizen so mafia wouldn’t bother with them, and watchme could’ve somehow deduced that as a possibility so he healed someone he didn’t think was cop due to them being a scum in his eyes. He couldn’t go for the more townie players as they might be doctor. Plus to win Mafia has to kill the actual doctor which upon death would just out watchme. However, it’s possible mafia just thinks they’ll get majority before the doctor dies. That’s why I don’t know what to make of this claim. I’m going to try to eat something then I’ll look at watchme’s isos and see if I find anything hinting towards them being mafia or doctor. I’ll also look at Qvas if we’re assuminf they’re scumbuddies.
Wait a minute
Did you read what watchme said? And why tf would dota want doc on them if they were a cop? Cop clearly shouldn't be docced this game and I'm pretty sure dota already stated this before.
exactly
noveiia's post just doesn't make sense at all
hence why i'm pushing them
also GG
But it feels like too uninformed to be mafia tbh
ChamAlien wrote:noveiia wrote:Hopefully if watchme is in fact mafia he’s consort since no one claimed role blocked. I don’t see why mafia would have their consort do the kill unless they wanted to limit which mafia acted to make it less likely tracker would be on one of them, but we can hope.
This guy doesn't even know how mafia in vanilla games work...
@chuckle @albanix what do you think?
ChamAlien wrote:Also Albanix, why did you track me?
ChamAlien wrote:Chuckle I think you are overthinking too much
ChamAlien wrote:I am tracker
N1, I tracked Whirlwindwarrior to watchme1
N2, I tracked phoenix to albanix and assumed they were doc
Last night I was blocked probably because scum thought I was doc
/vote Phone0Ix
Consort
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