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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:42 pm

noveiia wrote:Once again, I’ll say what I said at the time. Instead of lynching a possible (although unlikely) PR I wanted to lynch someone else who was obviously scum so we weren’t down a PR (Qva).


That’s exactly why you shouldn’t have been so eager to lynch Qva, because like i said yesterday when I saw that weird interaction with you and Cham (since you thought Qva was hammered), Qva had a chance of being doctor. Qva wasn’t “obviously” scum.

Imagine if we lynch Qva and they were doctor. Albanix (who’d probably have been tracker in that world) dies that night anyways, leaving us with no PRs alive or confirmed townies in Final 5 MyLoLyLo. Easy 3v2 game for mafia at that point (they only need to cause 1 mislynch to win).

In fact, I think the reason scum!you wanted to get rid of Qva probably was because you and your buddy probably thought they were PR or could have been an easy mislynch anyways, if not PR, reducing the pool of people that can be PR (since I’m inclined to believe I was mafia’s citizen check, it makes sense they roleblock Cham given dota claimed Citizen and then guarantee kill Albanix, who they believed to be tracker).

If there’s one thing that is true, is that Albanix died because mafia believed they were tracker. Else it doesn’t make sense for Albanix to die.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:49 pm

noveiia wrote:Obviously the majority thought they were scum considering they were lynched. They were acting scummy. Sometimes town appear really scummy like in this game and previous games I’ve been in.


You never explained why you thought Qva was acting scummy though, at least not from what I remember off the top of my head. I believe scum!you sheeped Qva’s wagon, and the fact you “didn’t want to lynch possibke PR” when referring to watchme who was outed scum at that point (because no doc CC means real doc knew the cop’s results were correct and that watchme was scum, and no cop cc means that the cop was undisputed. I explained this already), but were fine lynching “obvious scum” Qvapil who could have been doctor or at least town, is hilarious and telling.

@ChamAlien would you be fine lynching dota today.
@noveiia would you be fine lynching dota today.

The reason why I ask is none of your concern at the moment, so just answer.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:53 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:ChamAliens extreme haste for a quickhammer is so obvious



Wtf


Phone did the same thing, and both you and Phone got extremely irritated and overdefensive when FoS fell on your slot.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:58 pm

ChamAlien wrote:Wow nice broadwaying lads


TBH I wouldn’t put it past scum!Eragon to do this so that even if scum!Eragon is lynched, there is doubt that noveiia is their buddy.

This whole “quickhammer” stuff just seems like distancing between Eragon and noveiia, and noveiia never explained why they believed Cham over Phone anyways.

Especially inclined to believe this since Phone tried to convince dota to vote Cham, orobably so their buddy noveiia could hammer before I got the chance to come and say anything.

Which is reminiscent of yesterday where dota literally said “I’m not hammering yet I want to see what chuckle says” (I’m paraphrasing). Hence another reason why I townread dota, because as scum they could have just hammered Qvapil.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:59 pm

noveiia wrote:Since you’ve mentioned dota, I’d be much more comfortable with a dota lynch than a Cham lynch considering their tracker claim seems a bit stronger than yours.


From your PoV this makes sense, the problem is it doesn’t make sense from my PoV.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:03 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
noveiia wrote:Since you’ve mentioned dota, I’d be much more comfortable with a dota lynch than a Cham lynch considering their tracker claim seems a bit stronger than yours.


I’d be willing to go for a dota lynch

it’s not top priority for me, Becuase it’s a much greater risk

but after what just happened I’m pretty confident it’s dota and Cham

I think Cham just couldn’t get dota online in time to hammer before you invited


Wrong, but not because dota couldn’t come online (OGI tells me they were/are sleeping), rather, it’s because I think Phone couldn’t convince dota to vote Cham even though he KNEW that one of noveiia/dota had to be scum with Cham and that they probably wouldn’t vote their partner, from town!Phone’s PoV. Which is indicative of dota being town, given they were also reluctant to hammer Qvapil yesterday.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:05 pm

noveiia wrote:I could see dota siding with almost anyone has scum, even them and ChuckleTeeth really.


Explain. Elaborate. There is never a world where one of Cham/Eragon is not scum, so you can’t possibly believe I am ever scum with dota.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:09 pm

noveiia wrote:Once again, if just the two of us vote on dota it’ll guarantee there’s not a PR mislynch and ChuckleTeeth can wait until EOD.


In a world where you are scum with Cham, Cham hammers dota and wins. So no.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 2(AlternativeVillag

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:32 pm

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
noveiia wrote:Chuckle I don’t think you need to ask what the meaning of the post was. It’s fairly obvious they were calling you scummy.


I think I do because it also looked like banter to me but I didn't want to mention that so that dota couldn't just read my post and use that as an excuse.

Don't try to pocket me, if you have an argument against dota then bring it out.

Your behavior, especially when looking at D1 in hindsight, is scummy noveiia.




noveiia wrote:Wait so I’m scum because of two posts that I made and finding Seth scummy? Considering he got hammered the majority found him scummy. Even if all three scum end up on the wagon, that means myself and two other towns all found him scummy.
Anyway, there hasn’t been any outings of other doctors and while I doubt watchme is town, it’s possible and I don’t want to lynch a PR. Since Qva is likely his scum buddy I’m voting him instead just in case watchme is just bad at being doctor.
/vote Qvapil


Tell me why I should believe this doesn’t come from scum!noveiia.

Look, I think dota is town, therefore I also think noveiia is scum.

If I lynch noveiia today, that will give me the info I need on final 3 to win (because if scum kills tracker instead of dota they’d be throwing). And if noveiia really is town, that’s too bad, because they didn’t play a townie game, and dota just seems more townie in my eyes.

/vote noveiia

This vote isn’t moving. Apologies to town if this loses us the game.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 2(AlternativeVillag

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:35 pm

noveiia wrote:
AlbanixAnubibus wrote:@Noveiia
If I claimed Tracker and I said that Watchme visited Alternative last night, would you change your mind?

Then I still probably wouldn’t vote him up until either him or you gets confirmed. There aren’t any doctor claims but there also aren’t any other tracker claims. For all I know all of the PR claims could be scum fake claiming. At this point between the two of you I’m not sure who I trust more.


With the hindsight knowledge that Albanix was doctor fake claiming tracker, this was probably them trying to figure out if noveiia was watchme’s scumbuddy.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 2(AlternativeVillag

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:35 pm

noveiia wrote:Hopefully if watchme is in fact mafia he’s consort since no one claimed role blocked. I don’t see why mafia would have their consort do the kill unless they wanted to limit which mafia acted to make it less likely tracker would be on one of them, but we can hope.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:40 pm

Let me make this clear:

I believe a watchme/Eragon(Phone)/noveiia world is way more likely than a watchme/Cham/dota world or a watchme/Cham/noveiia world.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:23 pm

i think eragon may be starting to save that slot
i'm leaning to vote cham now

but my invisible vote is on noveiia
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby ChamAlien » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:24 pm

Cjuckle im not ok with voting dota
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:29 pm

btw i was sleeping and if you think i'd hammer there you're wrong
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:33 pm

I think dota is town. By PoE, I also think noveiia is scum. By association, likeliness and overall read on Phone/Eragon, I think Eragon is consort, and that ChamAlien is tracker.

dota, from your point of view, if you believe I am town, you know that noveiia is scum because the other scum is between ChamAlien and Eragon (since they can never be scum together).

Cham, if you are not ok with voting dota, you should be fine with voting noveiia, given from your PoV you know that Eragon is scum. So unless you believe I'm scum here, I suggest you and dota vote noveiia with me.

Also I will once again point out that I put my vote on noveiia and neither Cham or dota voted noveiia immediately after, meaning they probably aren't scum together (because if they were, they could have just both voted noveiia and ended the game right there).

I'm pretty sure the game is solved at this point, and that Phone replaced out of frustration of me being good enough to catch them. I'd like to be proven right, and if I'm wrong, so be it.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:35 pm

i'll read nov's iso from a "confirmed scum" standpoint

if chuckle is the actual scum then congrats, you deserve the win
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:37 pm

nov is spewed scum because they'd have accused chuckle from a town pov (since they thought that me claiming cit is most likely from an actual cit)
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:38 pm

they just know that i'm an easier fish to fry and it'd be easier to push me here
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:38 pm

dota2reporter wrote:i'll read nov's iso from a "confirmed scum" standpoint

if chuckle is the actual scum then congrats, you deserve the win


The only world where I'm scum is if I am scum with Eragon. I cannot be scum with either your or noveiia, and if I was scum with ChamAlien, Phone's n2 claim which essentially confirms I am town from their PoV couldn't be true, as I would have to be the mafia performing the kill or the consort.

There is only 1 world where me and Eragon are both town, and that is if you and Cham are scum together, which you aren't.

So if you'd rather lynch Eragon today under the suspicion I could be scum with Eragon, we can do that too. I really have no preference because I believe the scumteam is Eragon and noveiia.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby ChamAlien » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:39 pm

dota2reporter wrote:i think eragon may be starting to save that slot
i'm leaning to vote cham now

but my invisible vote is on noveiia

That is scum theatre dota don't fall for this scum game
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:42 pm

I already voted noveiia. Cham and dota tell me if you'd rather lynch Eragon first so I can change my vote, otherwise, vote noveiia and let us proceed to final 3. Unless mafia decides to concede of course.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:43 pm

/vote noveiia
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

Postby ChamAlien » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:49 pm

/vote noveiia
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day4 (Albanixdocx)

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End of Day 4 Vote-Count


noveiia|3| MrChuckleteeth,dota2reporter,ChamAlien
ChamAlien |1| Eragon1329
dota2reporter |1| noveiia

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noveiia will be lynched.

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