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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:58 pm

so it's like 7 am

when i actually wake up i will tryhard

gimme about an hour
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:06 pm

Points against Flake
- Defended over using shit vca reasoning
- Flip on them when they "scumslipped" which I still dont see
- Frankly if they're town they should get an award just for recognising that scumslip over Jamez's obvious scumslip one

Points against Debil and Seth
- Randomly townread both of the 2 other scums
- Had close interactions with over
- Seth is a pile of mess I'm not even going to attempt to read
- Would arguably benefit most from killing Kmenx but ngl mafia not killing Kmenx there would be a dumb move no matter who mafia is

Points against dota
- I dunno some fencesitty reasoning in the ISO
- Heli not shitposting or smth which is apparently against their meta?

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:09 pm

I also literally got nothing from the vca except for the fact that flake did vca in their last town game but not in their last scum game but im pretty sure thats not ai since they did the percentage read list in the smuggler game where seth tunneled me but also did that in their last scum game

Im just rambling here

Also debil can you give your last mafia and town game which isn't canned or 17E

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:09 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:I also literally got nothing from the meta dive except for the fact that flake did vca in their last town game but not in their last scum game but im pretty sure thats not ai since they did the percentage read list in the smuggler game where seth tunneled me but also did that in their last scum game

Im just rambling here

Also debil can you give your last mafia and town game which isn't canned or 17E


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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:10 pm

Gee golly I like soloing a hydra game

Olly is basically non existent but ngl i dont like how they backed up flake in everything
Tho kmenx also did that with uzay so probably not ai overall

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:11 pm

flake, the day when you were saying 0verdud3 is never mafia due to voting, what were your scumreads?
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:12 pm

dota2reporter wrote:flake, the day when you were saying 0verdud3 is never mafia due to voting, what were your scumreads?


Doing hindsight scumread is bad

Also having both mafia flipped so far being inactives is a pain

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:13 pm

I should also note that i dont like whatever weird thing flake was doing early d1

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:14 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:flake, the day when you were saying 0verdud3 is never mafia due to voting, what were your scumreads?


Doing hindsight scumread is bad

Also having both mafia flipped so far being inactives is a pain

yeah but i still need to try something
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:18 pm

Im like really conflicted on flake's slot rn
In their last scumgame they bus their scummate pretty quickly but in this one they ignored them
Hell, their comment that they didnt realise over and righto are in the game is derp-cleary as hell

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:20 pm

i think we need to look which one of them was more passive on votes n stuff

because a scum with 2 inactive teammates would know that town would just slaughter each other if the said scum person doesn't look scummy
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day One - The Bike Store

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:21 pm

TheDebil wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:Explain chemist scumlean

above post
what are your own thoughts on chemist
and what do you think of evild/soul team so far


Ugh does scum!debil ever pull attention on their inactive teammate here

My gut screams Flake but my mind is conflicted

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:24 pm

Or could it be dota

Nnn

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day One - The Bike Store

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:24 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:Explain chemist scumlean

above post
what are your own thoughts on chemist
and what do you think of evild/soul team so far


Ugh does scum!debil ever pull attention on their inactive teammate here

My gut screams Flake but my mind is conflicted

same, i feel ya
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:28 pm

yeah i quoted that post too
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:29 pm

Flake wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:Points against Flake
- Defended over using shit vca reasoning
- Flip on them when they "scumslipped" which I still dont see
- Frankly if they're town they should get an award just for recognising that scumslip over Jamez's obvious scumslip one

how was that shit vca reasoning though, it's literally basic pattern mapping of votes. also i literally never create such obvious ties as wolf

points 2 and 3 are basically the same thing:

ChamAlien wrote:Ok guys, I know Lunar Duo was killed because they were PR but why would mafia kill Sha'ingr while there were softclaims? Were they too townie or were they pushing the mafia hard? I will probably ISO them.


It was the fact that they were entirely confident here which is why i knew it was a wolf slip. no town ever explicitly says "I know" here.

there was a decent chance agent wasnt on chemist at all at the time, especially considering if agent got a result of a non-visiting person, there was approx a 5/8 chance PR could have been attacked irrespective

and chemist was not a bad night kill considering the remaining choices. their slot would have been better as a kill than like most of the town hydras


Still, I really dont buy the fact that you flipped your read on that slot solely because of that one sentence
And yeh the 3rd reasoning is a point to the 2nd point
Also plz stop self metaing thank you you're better than that while seth isnt

It was shit because over was a goddamn inactive it didnt really matter

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:30 pm

Besides me/grumpy and cho/gall chemist was the best nightkill

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:31 pm

Flake wrote:it was literally so obvious it makes me mad that literally 0 people actually agreed to lynch them over jamez/luk


To be fair jamez/luk tripped themselves up pretty hard. They had been lackluster all game, made horrible posts, horrible targets, said they targeted different people and luk said jamez was the one who changed the target when jamez claimed the opposite

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:32 pm

In other news dota is back in the lynchpool
Probably

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:32 pm

Flake wrote:it was literally so obvious it makes me mad that literally 0 people actually agreed to lynch them over jamez/luk

what'd you expect
we basically had them as confirmed scum
i even did VCs with their name as red
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:34 pm

ok i know self-metaing is bad and stuff

but if i was scum i would be much
MUCH more active and participating

because i keep rolling town and i would be pumped to play as scum

instead it was catchup hell
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:34 pm

dota2reporter wrote:ok i know self-metaing is bad and stuff

but if i was scum i would be much
MUCH more active and participating

because i keep rolling town and i would be pumped to play as scum

instead it was catchup hell

i literally ignored the game at points because i didnt wanna read all the shit that was happening
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:36 pm

Does debil's defeatist attitude ever come from scum

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby dota2reporter » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:39 pm

Multiuniverse wrote:Does debil's defeatist attitude ever come from scum

is it even defeatist?
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Day Six - The Final Four (or 7)

Postby Multiuniverse » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:40 pm

Flake wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Flake wrote:it was literally so obvious it makes me mad that literally 0 people actually agreed to lynch them over jamez/luk


To be fair jamez/luk tripped themselves up pretty hard. They had been lackluster all game, made horrible posts, horrible targets, said they targeted different people and luk said jamez was the one who changed the target when jamez claimed the opposite

but the cham wolf slip was so much more definitive i don't understand

You were the only one who think that it was definitive
I think at that point I was just so fed up with Jamez/lukundo i just wanted their head tbh
So many slips
So many mistakes
Ugh

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