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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:31 am

what makes chemist an S lean instead of slight S lean?
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:45 am

@Qva basically we're in a relationship and she's confused as to why i said close friends
(i didn't wanna go into detail)

@Flake is ultii known for not making reads as scum?
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:46 am

Qvapil wrote:Ulti's heli read is shit

i 100% agree

and about chemist

i don't like how he's ignoring the pressure on him, so i'll vote him
/vote Chemist1422
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:50 am

Flake wrote:oh wait retract my point about it happening in VFM37, i read the game wrong

i'm still pretty sure it's a slip that can happen though

what was your point about vfm37? i couldn't search it up in the thread
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:58 am

...okay

i agree on the goomba/wabbit interaction, i think goomba should speak up a bit more about this
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:02 am

ye it makes a lot of sense for 2 towns to be at each others throats since they literally don't know each others' alignments
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:16 am

tbh after me calling chuckle locktown it felt like chuckle didn't feel the need to defend himself anymore
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:18 am

dota2reporter wrote:
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Dash2 wrote:Chuckleteeth is another player acting cocky except he's following his own logic and went against pretty much everyone else's opinions which makes me think this is town


This is a good post and how you get yourself townread.


No, i was talking about this one


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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:31 am

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watchme1 wrote:-analysis on me and dota-

TvS is more likely than TvT here. I don't find it likely for two townies to be at each other's throats for such a period of time. Between dota and qva I'm more inclined to believe qva to be town

Qvapil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:qva/dota is TvS

Why? I think we're TvT and I feel like you might be trying to set something up here. Me and dota have been arguing for a while now, I think if one of us were scum they'd have tried to drop it by now because we're getting too much attention.


TBF logically it makes sense for scum to try to not attract much attention but at the same time you could say the same for scum trying to look townie so the argument applies both ways. I know I'm playing devil's advocate here but that's just what I believe.

Qvapil wrote:Also debil I dropped my argument with dota because I dropped my scumread on them and they rescinded theirs.


Seems like the Dota v Qva argument ends here. Conclusion - 30/70 chance for it to be TvS/TvT between the two. 0 chance for SvS.

Ugh now that I look back at this I realise I suck hard at reading people

How did you change your mind from more likely TvS to more likely TvT? Please explain, your whole analysis on this was very flip floppy even before this point.

Between the 2nd last and last quote, you and dota basically stopped trying to out each other as scum which leads me to believe more on the fact that it was TvT than TvS. Like if there's anything else to base it of, you guys just self-affirmed each other as townies in a way but what do I know. Yes my analysis is very flip floppy because I suck at doing analysis' but I'm, trying my best anyway
watchme1 wrote:To answer dota's question about who I think is a scumread for me.

-snipped case on chuckles-

Basically to sum it up, Chuckle is acting on his own trying to figure things out for himself. I have yet to see him play a game as scum so I can't say much on it. My gut is saying that his posts are not something a cit would say as it sort of goes against what the town would want if you get what I mean.

I disagree with this reasoning, I believe scum is even less likely to try to appear to figure things out on their own, as they want to fit in. Also you hesitating on your read by saying you don't know their scum meta is scummy as hell, like you're trying to distance yourself if this ever flips town. Also mentioning your scumread on chuckles first and being so fencesitty on it is weird.

NGL had to look up fencessity cause had no idea what you were talking about but finesse is what I assume you meant? But yea it sort of contradicts my read on you and dota as that read was just a bunch of my own opinions chucked at once but here dota specifically asked who I thought was a scum read was for me and I stated my reasons as such so i had to be sure my reads were 'valid'. I mean you could say the same thing as scum wanting to try to figure things out on his own to look like townie even though the odds of it are low. For all we know Chuckle could have been soft pr hunting. But unlikely for latter case. #possibilities afterall right?


Also the chemist situation doesn't really make sense to me. He had some valid points early on making me have a slight town read on him and then he leaves with a joke post without saying much afterwards.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:34 am

Qvapil wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:tbh after me calling chuckle locktown it felt like chuckle didn't feel the need to defend himself anymore

This reminds me of my mafia game where most people had me as town so I'd conveniently ignore the few accusations against me. But chuckle's playstyle is different than mine so I don't think this matters.

meta shouldn't prevent you from accusing/scumreading someone
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:38 am

TheDebil wrote:@fwog
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:42 am

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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:57 am

Mistakes exist bruh. I forgot wabbit cuz for some reason I thought I included wabbit in my initial thoughts (the one where I pressed submit early).

I will post why I find wabbit town once I git home.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:09 am

fwogcarf wrote:
TheDebil wrote:@fwog
ever played with watchme?

No

how does he know your meta
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:20 am

TheDebil wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:
TheDebil wrote:@fwog
ever played with watchme?

No

how does he know your meta


I don't. I said why bother trying to analyse him as he's hard af to read. He's just different

Qvapil wrote:
watchme1 wrote:NGL had to look up fencessity cause had no idea what you were talking about but finesse is what I assume you meant? But yea it sort of contradicts my read on you and dota as that read was just a bunch of my own opinions chucked at once but here dota specifically asked who I thought was a scum read was for me and I stated my reasons as such so i had to be sure my reads were 'valid'. I mean you could say the same thing as scum wanting to try to figure things out on his own to look like townie even though the odds of it are low. For all we know Chuckle could have been soft pr hunting. But unlikely for latter case. #possibilities afterall right?

You're doing it again here. I don't understand, do you scumread chuckle or not? You said you did but now you're saying the odds chuckle is scum are low?


Basically -
I think chuckle is scum
odds are low he's scum based of the reason of him looking townie of him doing his own things
Reason I think he's scum is because his behavior was very sheepish and/or lamist in his earlier posts.

Qvapil wrote:Watchme by fencesitty I meant non commiting, as in you discrediting the read and not incriminating yourself in the case of a mislynch.


My analysis has always been trash, look at XVIII (I town read the freakn witch and blackmailer ffs and scum read the investigator and one cit), I don't want to cause the same problems here which is why my attitude this game has been rather on the fence about certain things.

Won't be on anymore tonight, maybe for a few more minutes if it's still active as I need to sleep now.

P.s haven't seen non on for a while was hoping he'd post a few reads for himself
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:27 am

watchme1 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:
TheDebil wrote:@fwog
ever played with watchme?

No

how does he know your meta


I don't. I said why bother trying to analyse him as he's hard af to read. He's just different

if fwog is mafia watch is mafia

how else would you know about fwog
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:28 am

Phone0Ix wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:@Phone

why did you say wabbit is ignoring posts when you didn't find evidence of that? was it gut?

No I remember I did saw him ignoring a post. Maybe it wasnt rlly obvious so now I cant find the post

And anyways I am also voting Wabbit for other suspicious things than the post I quoted


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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:31 am

im ignoring the goomba/wabbit association read because that's not on my side

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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:02 am

dota2reporter wrote:
watchme1 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:
TheDebil wrote:@fwog
ever played with watchme?

No

how does he know your meta


I don't. I said why bother trying to analyse him as he's hard af to read. He's just different

if fwog is mafia watch is mafia

how else would you know about fwog

fwog might not be mafia, but i think watch is scummy from this
mafia might just be discussing might kills and dangerous people and have fwog mentioned
response isnt satisfactory either
/vote watch
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:32 am

i agree. that waffle&fwog link isn't out of nowhere

/unvote
/vote waffleme1
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:38 am

Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Mistakes exist bruh. I forgot wabbit cuz for some reason I thought I included wabbit in my initial thoughts (the one where I pressed submit early).

I will post why I find wabbit town once I git home.

ok mafia : (


No u


Anyways wabbit's tone in responding to posts while catching up seemed reminiscent of their bg game where they were posting similarly. Wabbit had done nothing scum indicative and wasn't afraid of getting into discussions which pinged me town.

Also flake do you really think I would make such a noob mistake as to not put wabbit in my reads if I were S/S with them? I'd be fkin hyper paranoid about how people connect us and thus always remember them, which would mean the exact opposite of what you seem to be accusing me of.

This S/S association is nothing but a stupid tinfoil.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:38 am

Who tf is waffle lmao
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:43 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Who tf is waffle lmao

old forumer like me, so no disrepect
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:43 am

non271103 wrote:p10 chuckleteeth is scumreading everyone who’s trying to contribute reads to the game by saying they don’t have enough evidence. Would say this is scummy but never played with them.


non271103 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:whos ready for me to get lynched because I look scummy

no one was but i am now

@qva are you joking because you sound serious


I wasn't joking

than your question is absolutely stupid
do you expect scum to say "yes i am infact scum how did you know"


No but I expect town to say "I'm town". Scum would dance around like you did if they felt bad about directly lying.

No, town saying I'm town is just bad circular reasoning.


@dota these are the two posts out of the 5 or 6 they had at the time that pinged me as strange.

Also their first post when they entered the game was pretty hard to determine as to whether it was a joke or not.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:44 am

dota2reporter wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Who tf is waffle lmao

old forumer like me, so no disrepect

No but seriously who is waffle
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