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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby Descender » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:20 am

Dash2 wrote:This watchme wagon ain't pure

yup, but chemist doesnt look like a d1 lynch either.
TheWabbit wrote:/vote Chemist1422

finally switching because eragon is boring as fuck
for fuck sake am i going to have to choose between two shit wagons


also it could be that watchme wagon was formed by people eager to get out of no wagon hell, making it a really shit wagon with less scum than prior thought, making chemist wagon seem townie when watchme green flips. Because of this i believe both watchme and chemist are town.

what the fuck guys
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:28 am

im back from exam (it was ez pz), gonna go answer stuff when i get to my laptop
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby Descender » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:30 am

Qvapil wrote:How would a green watchme make chemist town? I don't get it. Chemist is scummy independently of watchme's alignment

i dont see how chemist is scummy. watchme being green doesnt make chemist town, the outside factors around the two wagons do.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:51 am

xUltiix wrote:Responses to all your responses in chronological order of what you wrote
1) Why?
2) not elaborating doesn't further gamestate more than elaborating. making people ask questions that should have been answered in the op does the exact opposite and hinders it.
3) the logic is established whether you agree or not, the example is fencesitting
4) same as 3
5) you can have this one
6) that's completely not what my point was
7) also not what my point was


1) because not taking a full look at someone iso doesnt give you a full look at them
2) exactly the opposite. by leaving something open and not complete makes someone else involved and more likely for them to remember and pay attention
also tests if other people even care about something in the first place. i assume everything else is fine with my response here?
3) the definition of fencesitting is there but my response is absolutely not. if saying that something is nai is instantly fencesitting then yikes, ive been fensesitting most of my games.
4) me refuting a bad metaread isnt fencesitting try again
5) i havent done anything to prove myself even why are you giving this one out of all of them lmao
6) your point is the same as the other points. ive broke several fences already in your eyes. you say its fencesitting and i say it is not.
7) ok but the read was explained later.too, i dont even get your point here. i state a hard opinion and you say i cant and have to explain it at the same time?? like look at the posts prior its pretty easy to understand why they are tvs and not svs
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:54 am

watch me makes a good response imo
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:54 am

btw how many irl days do we still have? 1 or 2
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:59 am

/vote grumpy
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:02 am

'Splain.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:11 am

Back.

Still thinking Wabbit rlly is scum. And him just ignoring accusations feels scummy also
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:12 am

TheWabbit wrote:/vote Chemist1422

finally switching because eragon is boring as fuck

How is this a good voteswitch post
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:13 am

Phone0Ix wrote:Back.

Still thinking Wabbit rlly is scum. And him just ignoring accusations feels scummy also

i ignore accusations because they suck
also you haven't reacted on my take on your read

sucks to be blind i guess
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:13 am

Phone0Ix wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:/vote Chemist1422

finally switching because eragon is boring as fuck

How is this a good voteswitch post

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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:14 am

Helicooler wrote:
Dash2 wrote:This watchme wagon ain't pure

yup, but chemist doesnt look like a d1 lynch either.
TheWabbit wrote:/vote Chemist1422

finally switching because eragon is boring as fuck
for fuck sake am i going to have to choose between two shit wagons


also it could be that watchme wagon was formed by people eager to get out of no wagon hell, making it a really shit wagon with less scum than prior thought, making chemist wagon seem townie when watchme green flips. Because of this i believe both watchme and chemist are town.

what the fuck guys


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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby TheWabbit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:15 am

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:Also I've written down a few players for future WotC reference.

Play the game or don't sign up.

Didn't you say moments ago that you had "losing interest" in this game?


Did you ever wonder why I would say that?

yes but they already claimed their illiteracy way back
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:17 am

What has eragon done? I didn't find anything either much scum indicative or town indicative in their posts so I'm confused why you want to wagon him. I would like to hear more from eragon tho.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:19 am

TheWabbit wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Back.

Still thinking Wabbit rlly is scum. And him just ignoring accusations feels scummy also

i ignore accusations because they suck
also you haven't reacted on my take on your read

sucks to be blind i guess

Sucks to be scum I guess
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:20 am

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Helicooler wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Flake wrote:i kind of want to pl heli even though he probably flips v

im shooting him why does no one listen

yeah but I've got dota on me remember

i'm protecting you everywhere except fm

Flake wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:wasn't i as awkward when got pushed early d1?

no

qva and chuckle don't seem to agree, can ya explain?

Chemist1422 wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:/vote Chemist

Sheep

true but is that all you have to say? fwog isn't following a bad wagon

Helicooler wrote:you do this alot now innit
the plan was because I was foed, meaning I could get really good reacts by telling someone to say a certain thing.
I'm not reposting reads as it would be really hard to find them as you have shown. The top scum if I remember though where you, flake, and I dont remember the other two

1. yup
2. okay but it didn't work i guess?
2. hm, interesting opinions. care to explain?

Helicooler wrote:
Flake wrote:
Flake wrote:{Flake} - Lock T
{Qva, dota} - Top T
{Dash2, Phone} - T Lean
{MrChuckleteeth, fwog, TheDebil} - Slight T Lean
{Helicooler, Ultiix} - Null T
{non, Eragon} - Null
{watchme} - Null S
{} - Slight S Lean
{Goomba, TheWabbit, Chemist} - S Lean
{} - Top S
{} - Lock S

ebwop

this is ok but also fucking shit

don't see much wrong with it

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dota2reporter wrote:those are the people that started posting more when chemist was offline

doesn't make them good picks to ISO

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dota2reporter wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Ulti's heli read is shit

i 100% agree

and about chemist

i don't like how he's ignoring the pressure on him, so i'll vote him
/vote Chemist1422

wat

also i forgot that ive done some of this rip

what didn't you understand? i can explain

Helicooler wrote:conclusion-

watchme wagon shouldn't exist, it isnt enough to work off of and it doesnt really make them scum. Chemist wagon shouldnt be a thing d1 with chemist being quite a neutral figure rn. flake, wabbit, eragon, they are all people i would consider but its a bit later for it. However, i might as well try
/vote Eragon

the eragon wagon would have even less info than the chemist and watchme ones

Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:wasn't i as awkward when got pushed early d1?

LAMIST

at face value that is the opposite of lamist
if you take it as 'I am town and i was awkward when being pushed" its lamist. if you take it as a scum confirming a scum team with another scum you should rethink

Or maybe you can take it as "why am I not being scum read now for being awkward if chemist is"

Why would I think of your latter option

yup, that's what i meant

watchme1 wrote:Making a phone post right now in case someone decides to hammer me.

When did i ever once say i knew how fwog played? If i did please quote it word for word, if i recall all i said was that you can't analyse him because his attitude as everyone else said screams defeat. And even if i did, it's not AI at all knowing how i read just one person. So for people wagoning on me just cause of it need to present alternative reasons.

Also flake my vote was rngd at the start of the day, but over time i concluded that i scum read Wabbit which is why the vote stays on him.

Some of the reasons i scum read chuckle weren't the best i agree but doesn't it seem a little strange to be just based of that?

If I'm missing anything say so before i go back to classes.

defense seems townie, no nervous tone to be seen and everything seems answered


Analysis:
Chemist seemed to be pretty nervous with only 2 votes on him which isn't townie (i mean before fwog and heli jumped on)
fwog is responding to the most useless posts and ignoring the important ones
ultii and debil should keep going
Heli is definetely improving in my reads, I like her controversial look on things
I didn't like that Flake didn't mention 3 (at the time, now 4) of his townreads being on watchme, which would from his PoV make a watchme mafia flip likely
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:37 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I do find chemist scummy, but lynching watchme would resolve chemist imo. Fwog and non kinda went under radar due to the lead wagons which pinged me weirdly.

non replaced out so it's not like we can vote him

fwog is getting attention
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:38 am

W8 non did. Figures why I wasn't seeing any posts from them.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:40 am

TheDebil wrote:btw how many irl days do we still have? 1 or 2


we have around 6 hours till eod

Alrighty pc post, my mental is boom from uni today so forgive my shitty post here.

Debil what's your reason to vote for Goomba, this late into the day, it's unlikely to be a meme so I'm assuming you're scum reading him. I haven't seen any posts from Goomba that scream scummy unless you could elaborate for me.
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:41 am

watchme1 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:btw how many irl days do we still have? 1 or 2


we have around 6 hours till eod

Alrighty pc post, my mental is boom from uni today so forgive my shitty post here.

Debil what's your reason to vote for Goomba, this late into the day, it's unlikely to be a meme so I'm assuming you're scum reading him. I haven't seen any posts from Goomba that scream scummy unless you could elaborate for me.

i agree, the vote seemed out of place
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:42 am

Guys I think fwog flips scum the most out of all the players in scum pool here. Can we get a good wagon going?

/vote fwog
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:43 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Guys I think fwog flips scum the most out of all the players in scum pool here. Can we get a good wagon going?

/vote fwog

why do you prefer fwog over chemist?
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:46 am

Town [dota]
Townread [flake, dash2, mrchuckle]
Townlean [ultii, debil, grumpy]
Null town [qvapil, thewabbit, heli]
Null [non]
Null scum [watchme, eragon]
Scumlean [phone]
Scumread [chemist, fwog]
Scum []

subject to change once i analyse isos
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Re: VFM51 | Discord | Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:48 am

Fwog has just been posting fluff and complaining from what I can see in their iso. They are literally ignoring all the spicy stuff and responding to the futile shit that has no relevance to the current game state. From my pov it is as if fwog is afraid of forming connections with other players, which is a big scum indication for me. Also them jumping on chemists wagon was just ???
I mean I know chemist isn't a bad wagon but it looked as if fwog did it just because it wasn't a bad wagon to be on and nothing else.

I will do a chemist analysis soonish.

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