18B | Sof - Town wins!

[MrChuckleteeth]

And here come Zorua's scum buddies to defend.

What a convincing argument

If you want a convincing argument you can read my ISO.

[woahah]

and so, google foed someone for the first time.

[EvilDeanius0]

And here come Zorua's scum buddies to defend.

What a convincing argument

If you want a convincing argument you can read my ISO.

Your clearly biased argument does not convince me

[MrChuckleteeth]

/vote Zorua
Their push on me is the telltale signs of a scum pushing for an easy mislynch. They have had it out for me since d1 as well where nobody was even scumreading me. My gut tells this will flip scum.

That’s how I’ve felt about Zorua in general since they’ve joined in. Scum trying to lynch town by looking for an easy scapegoat while acting over confident in their actions.

If that's what you believe why is your vote not on them? Because currently Grumpy is about to get lynched, not Zorua.

[MrChuckleteeth]

And here come Zorua's scum buddies to defend.

Who is scum out of these people?

ED possibly scum, woahah possibly scum, you possibly scum, tfios possibly scum.

Yeah.

[MrChuckleteeth]

I'm more concerned that you're ignoring my long post and have given no opinion on the Grumpy/Zorua situation other than "I find it interesting".

Your point didn't change much for me. Zorua's argument was never all that compelling and Grumpy's behavior is far from townie.

Please explain what is scummy about Grumpy's behavior.

Feels liek they are doing the bare minimum to slip by. Not scummy per say but not townie.

So if their behavior isn't scummy or townie then its NAI.

And if its NAI you shouldnt have a vote on them.

[MrChuckleteeth]

And if you think Grumpy is doing the bare minimum take a look at ED, tfios, TheDebil, Chemist, noveiia, Elusive and tell me if Goomba is really doing bare minimum. I agree that today they haven't really contributed but they aren't the only person, and when Goomba DOES contribute I'd argue it's townier than scummier.

But if you still believe they are doing the bare minimum then go through their ISO and quote them on the "bare minimum".

[MrChuckleteeth]

I'm more concerned that you're ignoring my long post and have given no opinion on the Grumpy/Zorua situation other than "I find it interesting".

Your point didn't change much for me. Zorua's argument was never all that compelling and Grumpy's behavior is far from townie.

Please explain what is scummy about Grumpy's behavior.

Feels liek they are doing the bare minimum to slip by. Not scummy per say but not townie.

So if their behavior isn't scummy or townie then its NAI.

And if its NAI you shouldnt have a vote on them.

What is scummy about Zorua?

For all scumhunting purposes we can assume that the NB/NE are town
because mafia had no way to know that they were not town

Not really

The thing I pushed them for (opportunistic voting) usually doesn't come from town, and I was right because they're not town here

>implying town doesn't oppurtunistically vote
mafia would probably treat/lynch watchme as if they were dumb town, because it's more statistcally likely than them being NB
just to keep in mind when doing VCA & stuff

Reads continued :
Goomba S

because Shès done almost nothing readwise
and Thé oppurtunistic vote on googl

Whatever this contradiction is supposed to be.

/vote Goomba

They're acting LAMIST, asking reasons for voting betel especially pinged me
and then they get off their townie pedastel to pounce on spider

Jumping at Goomba's throat with a weak argument. I already explained this.

Goomba is tonally awkward with all the xDs and LOLs.

And with the LAMIST
She's a solid scumread for me rn

"solid scumread" barely into day 1

Elusive should be Parasoul

cause he's providing a heck ton of shade

Seems hypocritical given what Zorua is doing in this post.

/vote Elusive

Hopping off my vanity wagon to make more sense of the VC

To the newbies: If you can't get people to join your wagon, find a larger wagon that you're OK with. If there aren't any that your'e OK with, explain why.
Most importantly, listen and don't be afraid to change your reads.

Another stupid vote that has no solid reasoning behind it.

I don't really like Debil, seems too pockety
if Mafia!Debil (Still unlikely), then Phone is town

Throwing shade at Debil.

Not gunna lie, today was a pretty shit day for personal reasons and I'm kinda just in a bad mood.

I'll probably gladiate someone in the morning, leave your suggestions and arguments on who and we can clean up this vote count with me or them. Currently still sticking to Chemist.

why chemist?
sorry if i missed anything

It could be confirmation bias, but this interaction pings me off (mostly Debil's post).

More shade being thrown for no reason.

/vote tfios
Nothing öf value Will Be lost

just because i've been inactive doesn't mean that i'm scum

im hoping to be more active soon

i'm planning on a proper readthrough of the thread tonight

İd rather figure out your alignment now than il LyLo

"hey guys lets lynch inactive instead of scum" - scum

Is that proof enough or not?

[MrChuckleteeth]

I fucked up the quoting and for some reason ended up quoting chemist instead of leaving it outside a quote. Lemme fix real quick.

[MrChuckleteeth]

I'm more concerned that you're ignoring my long post and have given no opinion on the Grumpy/Zorua situation other than "I find it interesting".

Your point didn't change much for me. Zorua's argument was never all that compelling and Grumpy's behavior is far from townie.

Please explain what is scummy about Grumpy's behavior.

Feels liek they are doing the bare minimum to slip by. Not scummy per say but not townie.

So if their behavior isn't scummy or townie then its NAI.

And if its NAI you shouldnt have a vote on them.

What is scummy about Zorua?

For all scumhunting purposes we can assume that the NB/NE are town
because mafia had no way to know that they were not town

Not really

The thing I pushed them for (opportunistic voting) usually doesn't come from town, and I was right because they're not town here

>implying town doesn't oppurtunistically vote
mafia would probably treat/lynch watchme as if they were dumb town, because it's more statistcally likely than them being NB
just to keep in mind when doing VCA & stuff

Reads continued :
Goomba S

because Shès done almost nothing readwise
and Thé oppurtunistic vote on googl

Whatever this contradiction is supposed to be.

/vote Goomba

They're acting LAMIST, asking reasons for voting betel especially pinged me
and then they get off their townie pedastel to pounce on spider

Jumping at Goomba's throat with a weak argument. I already explained this.

Goomba is tonally awkward with all the xDs and LOLs.

And with the LAMIST
She's a solid scumread for me rn

"solid scumread" barely into day 1

Elusive should be Parasoul

cause he's providing a heck ton of shade

Seems hypocritical given what Zorua is doing in this post.

/vote Elusive

Hopping off my vanity wagon to make more sense of the VC

To the newbies: If you can't get people to join your wagon, find a larger wagon that you're OK with. If there aren't any that your'e OK with, explain why.
Most importantly, listen and don't be afraid to change your reads.

Another stupid vote that has no solid reasoning behind it.

I don't really like Debil, seems too pockety
if Mafia!Debil (Still unlikely), then Phone is town

Throwing shade at Debil.

Not gunna lie, today was a pretty shit day for personal reasons and I'm kinda just in a bad mood.

I'll probably gladiate someone in the morning, leave your suggestions and arguments on who and we can clean up this vote count with me or them. Currently still sticking to Chemist.

why chemist?
sorry if i missed anything

It could be confirmation bias, but this interaction pings me off (mostly Debil's post).

More shade being thrown for no reason.

/vote tfios
Nothing öf value Will Be lost

just because i've been inactive doesn't mean that i'm scum

im hoping to be more active soon

i'm planning on a proper readthrough of the thread tonight

İd rather figure out your alignment now than il LyLo

"hey guys lets lynch inactive instead of scum" - scum

Is that proof enough or not?[/quote]

I think it should be fixed now. Sorry bout the double long post, remind me to preview everything before posting...

[EvilDeanius0]

/vote Goomba

Zorua's definitely doing more game solving of the two imo. Chuckle's one-sided arguments in favor of them is a bonus.

[MrChuckleteeth]

That's more convincing but why didn't you use these arguments before?

I figured if I proved Zorua's argument to be flawed and Goomba to not be as scummy it would be enough for people to realize my point. I realize now this was a mistake, and that I should have just dropped my entire case on Zorua in the first place.

Thing is I also forgot Zorua wasn't the one necessarily leading the wagon, just the one that started it.

[MrChuckleteeth]

/vote Goomba

Zorua's definitely doing more game solving of the two imo. Chuckle's one-sided arguments in favor of them is a bonus.

So you expect me to defend Zorua and accuse Goomba too?

What kind of argument is that?

[MrChuckleteeth]

The fact that I'm the only one opposing a Goomba lynch is the biggest problem here.

[jucktropy]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

Not voting:
Phone0Ix,TheLastEvangelist

[jucktropy]

Day 2 begins! It will end on . or, when majority hits.

[EvilDeanius0]

/vote Goomba

Zorua's definitely doing more game solving of the two imo. Chuckle's one-sided arguments in favor of them is a bonus.

So you expect me to defend Zorua and accuse Goomba too?

What kind of argument is that?

In a way, yes. You picking out the scummy parts of Zorua's ISO and the townie parts of Goomba is telling, instead of making an overall case on both. It seems like you're fitting the case to suit the conclusion you want, and not coming to that outcome naturally.

[MrChuckleteeth]

I'm disappointed half the players here are inactive or basically inactive.

I'm starting to lose interest in this game.

[jucktropy]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

Not voting:
Phone0Ix,TheLastEvangelist

GrumpyGoomba Will Be Lynched Filp Coming Soon

[jucktropy]

GrumpyGoomba Was Lynched On Day 2 They Were Citizen

Night 2 Has to Begin, It Will End

Send Your Night 2 Action To Me & Royee

[Royee]

ZoruaLuhansk was killed last night. They were a Baby Sitter.
Spoiler:

You are a Baby Sitter.

Your alignment is Town Protective.

Each night you can choose to babysit someone.
If your target is attacked you will help them escape and they will not be killed. However if you are killed while protecting a target you will attack your target.
You will know if you helped your target escape from death.
Your method of killing doesn't ignore immunity.
You can't save your target from an attack which ignores night immunity.

You win with Town.
You must lynch and kill every criminal and evildoer.
You may spare anyone else.

MrChuckleteeth was killed last night. They were a Citizen.

Day 3 begins! It will end on 1/6/2019, 18:46:00 AM. or, when majority hits.

[Chemist1422]

Really makes you think

I'm gonna do some VCA now that we have actual flips

[Chemist1422]

GrumpyGoomba|5|ZoruaLuhansk, Flake, tfiosforevah, EvilDeanius0, Woahah;
ZoruaLuhansk|4|Chemist1422, spiderpoolcorps, MrChuckleteeth, GrumpyGoomba;
jammingduck|3|Watt2015, noveiia, ElusiveBelle;
MrChuckleteeth|1|jammingduck;
ElusiveBelle|1|ChubbyMooshroom9;
ChubbyMooshroom9|1|TheDebil

I think the Zorua wagon was pure. I think the mafia were mostly on the side wagons, which points more to Crimson, Chubby, and Debil than anything.
I think if there's mafia on the Crimson wagon it's Elusive, if there's mafia on the Goomba wagon it's ED.

I think the team is something like ED/Elusive/Crimson (duck)/Debil

[woahah]

haii how is everyone

i didnt shoot because i didnt think the time was right and there may be some sort of spicyness behind the scenes

especcially with a goombtown

[spiderpoolcorps]

What was the point of even taking a vote of who to kill then?
Mobile forums is a pain in the ass for me to flip through ISOs rn, but wasn't Chuckle one of the main people pushing you to shoot? Or am I mistaken?