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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:09 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:You need to do better than that evan. What you are doing is just repeating the same thing again and again without giving us any reason to actually believe it.

I'm fully aware

If you are aware, then why tf are you continuing with it?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:09 pm

I gave my reasons yesterday

I said I wasn't trying
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:10 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:You need to do better than that evan. What you are doing is just repeating the same thing again and again without giving us any reason to actually believe it.

I'm fully aware

If you are aware, then why tf are you continuing with it?

Because I don't feel like it
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:10 pm

Uhm... aight.q
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:11 pm

OllyRenard wrote:
Royee wrote:Why are we lynching Evan?
is that because of this p3171637?

I think so plus their defense of FML I think I don't really know

I like evan he is a good noodle

They're literally a dead villager

How can there possibly be discussion on their alignment
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:17 pm

You clearly lack the understanding of the character Olly claims they had as flavor. Double.

Who is the biggest associate to the Skullgirl and can be literally anyone.


However, Harper will throw out that Harper mentioned both double and Valentine as associates to SG on D1. So if a scum role can fake flips it is plausible to frame FML to town clear Olly. Granted that's just a tinfoil
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:17 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Royee wrote:Why are we lynching Evan?
is that because of this p3171637?

I think so plus their defense of FML I think I don't really know

I like evan he is a good noodle

They're literally a dead villager

How can there possibly be discussion on their alignment

He was a disguiser. That was a fake flip.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:19 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Royee wrote:Why are we lynching Evan?
is that because of this p3171637?

I think so plus their defense of FML I think I don't really know

I like evan he is a good noodle

They're literally a dead villager

How can there possibly be discussion on their alignment

He was a disguiser. That was a fake flip.

We dont know that for certain, you can't treat it as absolute truth. It's highly likely but not fact
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri May 17, 2019 7:19 pm

HarperReed wrote:You clearly lack the understanding of the character Olly claims they had as flavor. Double.

Who is the biggest associate to the Skullgirl and can be literally anyone.


However, Harper will throw out that Harper mentioned both double and Valentine as associates to SG on D1. So if a scum role can fake flips it is plausible to frame FML to town clear Olly. Granted that's just a tinfoil

Olly would have said it fron the start if they were and given fml the chance to actually play as a villager

I know That's a lie
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:22 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:This is the most condescending post to the point where I want to self-vote just to shut you up

Stop it. This kind of attitude makes me really not want to play the game.

Other than this, it's objectively anti-town behavior. You're refusing to re-evaluate or even consider the fact that your scumreads might be town. You're putting town in a situation where they're completely unable to convince you that they're town which leads to mislynches.

If you're town here, stop and think and read. If you refuse to do any of those, you're basically throwing here because your behavior is anti-town and you refuse to let people put in effort to convince you they're town. Even if they were to anyway, you're making it an unpleasant gamestate so they wouldn't want to.

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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:23 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:
HarperReed wrote:You clearly lack the understanding of the character Olly claims they had as flavor. Double.

Who is the biggest associate to the Skullgirl and can be literally anyone.


However, Harper will throw out that Harper mentioned both double and Valentine as associates to SG on D1. So if a scum role can fake flips it is plausible to frame FML to town clear Olly. Granted that's just a tinfoil

Olly would have said it fron the start if they were and given fml the chance to actually play as a villager

I know That's a lie

Also incorrect, there is reason to withhold information on the result. Namely for those who assume it was a red check over a neutral one. Harper is unsure what came of that however.

Olly will need to come in and clarify on that, Olly has also called out two other flavors and neither countered the claim
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:25 pm

Not to interrupt the discussion
but why do all the VCs literally have FML in the only wagoned person
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:29 pm

HarperReed wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
HarperReed wrote:You clearly lack the understanding of the character Olly claims they had as flavor. Double.

Who is the biggest associate to the Skullgirl and can be literally anyone.


However, Harper will throw out that Harper mentioned both double and Valentine as associates to SG on D1. So if a scum role can fake flips it is plausible to frame FML to town clear Olly. Granted that's just a tinfoil

Olly would have said it fron the start if they were and given fml the chance to actually play as a villager

I know That's a lie

Also incorrect, there is reason to withhold information on the result. Namely for those who assume it was a red check over a neutral one. Harper is unsure what came of that however.

Olly will need to come in and clarify on that, Olly has also called out two other flavors and neither countered the claim

Can confirm. He determined my flavor name correctly.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:32 pm

Naturally that doesn't make them town, so far Olly seems more like a consig. The extent of their abilities can easily be a lie to only get a flavor name when they possibly get more.

Once more with the tinfoil, if the medici can falsify flips then FML definitely could have been framed
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:34 pm

ToS version:
Olly redchecks FML
FML claims Med, but flips Lookout
Evan mantains that FML is still town
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:35 pm

Mhmm that does make sense. The only thing that we know is that olly is unlikely to be associated with SG.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:39 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:ToS version:
Olly redchecks FML
FML claims Med, but flips Lookout
Evan mantains that FML is still town

Incorrect, Olly scum checked. Not red checked
Olly never said they were red, only scum
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:40 pm

HarperReed wrote:Naturally that doesn't make them town, so far Olly seems more like a consig. The extent of their abilities can easily be a lie to only get a flavor name when they possibly get more.

Once more with the tinfoil, if the medici can falsify flips then FML definitely could have been framed

That seems unlikely IMO, since Double seems to be a main villian and it makes sense for her to be in the game
I'll consider that if more people start flipping things they dont claim, but I'm not considering that now
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:41 pm

HarperReed wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:ToS version:
Olly redchecks FML
FML claims Med, but flips Lookout
Evan mantains that FML is still town

Incorrect, Olly scum checked. Not red checked
Olly never said they were red, only scum

To be techinically ToS, "susp" checked.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 7:45 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
HarperReed wrote:Naturally that doesn't make them town, so far Olly seems more like a consig. The extent of their abilities can easily be a lie to only get a flavor name when they possibly get more.

Once more with the tinfoil, if the medici can falsify flips then FML definitely could have been framed

That seems unlikely IMO, since Double seems to be a main villian and it makes sense for her to be in the game
I'll consider that if more people start flipping things they dont claim, but I'm not considering that now

Correct, given the nature of Double it is highly likely that it was in fact what FML was, however we still cannot treat it as fact.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:49 pm

Dang
Why would FlavorCop!Olly not reveal what type of check he had
cuz Consig!Olly has plenty of reasons not to
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 7:52 pm

I mean I'm not saying I'm scumreading him
I'm just not locktowning him anymore
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:54 pm

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Why are there only 3 votes and why are they all terrible.

@Neighbourhood
Is Evan doing anything in the chat or is he refusing to contribute in there too?

I would have gone with Phone or Leeten today, but I feel like Zoruais doing a bit better so I'd like to give them a bit of time.

Evan is probably correct on Eragon but only due to PoE.


he left the neighborhood

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EvilDeanius0 wrote:Terrible isn't exactly the right word, but you're voting someone who is refusing to play the game, for not playing the game. Its kinda pointless.

He's not reading the thread or acknowledging anything, so saying he's scum for not doing those things is meh.

that's not why i voted him, are you confusing evan with eragon?
reread my vote post


thats not why you scumread me either
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Jezz92 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:55 pm

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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:57 pm

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heytheregirl17 wrote:
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heytheregirl17 wrote:I mean priority probably goes to Evan lynch here
But I'd be happy with either wagon at this point
If we've got a 4 person neighborhood, I would be extremely hard-pressed to believe it's a masonry

a 3-person masonry happened purely by chance in mine and Chemist's Upick

so I could believe a possible 4-player in an mostly bastard game

I mean yeah, that's fair, I wouldn't go chainlynching the neighborhood just on the numbers argument alone
But at the same time it just seems convenient that I have legit reasons to scumreads at least two of you and could stretch for a third

what are your reasons for scum reading me?

Oh shit my lunch is over
I'll expand on it later but you're noticibly lurking and really up until now were not as engaged in discussion as I would have expected
Plus I've asked you for reads multiple times and all I got was mechanical analysis

Eragon has pretty much shit posting and lurked till now plus his ability is to steal tension. Idk what is happening in their chat so that they think it's unknown mason chat.
They can share(and should) why they think that their chat is mason chat.

heytheregirl17 wrote:I mean priority probably goes to Evan lynch here
But I'd be happy with either wagon at this point
If we've got a 4 person neighborhood, I would be extremely hard-pressed to believe it's a masonry

Well, when it's 4 people in the neighborhood at least 1 should be scum.
But I don't think Evan should be the lynch today. Claiming to red check Eragon from frustration because he stole his tension is not something I see to come from scum.


the red check

is literally obviously fake
and never taken as truth

so there isn't a risk to it if it actually goes through


ZoruaLuhansk wrote:OK
Why does think a tension theif is so bad
Think of it as a delayed Roleblocker
It's not inherently anti-town unless that's the only blockbuster they have


actually

its like a full roleblock

but only if the tension cost of said target's blockbuster is more than they have
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