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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 12:09 pm

Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:10 pm

Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Uzay do you think there are wolves on cupcake?

Aggreeing with Flake here .
1 or none
But not aggreeing with clearing protoo and grumby
With saying " Only Ejji can be scum there "

if i say "probably always" i'm usually not believing it is 100%

:)

TBH I generally use that as " Unless I somehow wrong on A read I am 100% sure .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm

These are quite heavily based on my reads so obviously not objective

Assuming 1 mafia (cupcake) not on either crimson or cupcake, 1 mafia on cupcake and 1 on crimson:

{cupcake, goomba, uzay/rick} if goomba is mafia on cupcake wagon
{cupcake, proto, uzay/rick} if proto is mafia on cupcake wagon
{cupcake, ejji, uzay/rick/qva} if ejji is mafia on cupcake wagon

From most to least likely scenarios

Probably most likely specific pool out of all of these possibilities is {cupcake, uzay, goomba}

Assuming 1 mafia (cupcake) not on either crimson or cupcake and 2 mafia on crimson:

{cupcake, uzay/rick/qva, uzay/rick/qva}

Honestly I think the most likely pool with this is {cupcake, uzay, qva}

I think it is more likely that both Mafia were on the Crimson wagon at this point, since I don't think ejji is mafia and goomba/proto voting cupcake there is just kinda unlikely, unless uzay/rick coached them
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Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
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VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
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VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm

0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ; Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ; Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ; Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ; Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


TBH I am thinking different than Flake here .

My Pool is
Either
1( Goomba , protoo ) , 1 ( Qva , Chem , Rick )
Or 2 ( Qva , Chem , Rick , Zucker , tfios}

About tfios , there are posts Like #3169181 or #3169935I Dont Like , so not aggreeing on tfios being lock-town with Flake .
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NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:28 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ; Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ; Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ; Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ; Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


TBH I am thinking different than Flake here .

My Pool is
Either
1( Goomba , protoo ) , 1 ( Qva , Chem , Rick )
Or 2 ( Qva , Chem , Rick , Zucker , tfios}

About tfios , there are posts Like #3169181 or #3169935I Dont Like , so not aggreeing on tfios being lock-town with Flake .


PS - forget to add : Zucker/ tfios is objectively impossible .
If either Zucker or tfios is Maf , they need to be coached .
20-24 Spoiler: Town Games(13-17)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 pm

Qvapil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Uzay could you explain what you mean by pockety? When you were talking about ejji and me townreading you

Psicologically , people tend to act good to Player they are acted good by , and vice versa .Also Applies from " bad act" .
So , scum can try acting good / townread The players who think they can effect their read with , with hope that Will cause A townread on them , or A Choose which benefit them later at Game .


Oh I get it. Thanks, you're being really helpful.

is it just me that finds this fake
FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:33 pm

Flake wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Uzay could you explain what you mean by pockety? When you were talking about ejji and me townreading you

Psicologically , people tend to act good to Player they are acted good by , and vice versa .Also Applies from " bad act" .
So , scum can try acting good / townread The players who think they can effect their read with , with hope that Will cause A townread on them , or A Choose which benefit them later at Game .


Oh I get it. Thanks, you're being really helpful.

is it just me that finds this fake

Why somebody Understanding my English is that Weird ?
I am remembering Qva asking questions that Game A lot .
Should look their past Game for comparation
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 12:33 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.

proto is very likely to be town here by meta, i made an argument for him being town at some point

ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet
FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
VFM52: Citizen - Win (Died N1)
SFM60: Citizen - Loss (Endgamed, Replaced in D4)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 12:34 pm

Flake wrote:ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet

rather, likely not mafia
FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
VFM52: Citizen - Win (Died N1)
SFM60: Citizen - Loss (Endgamed, Replaced in D4)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:36 pm

Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.

proto is very likely to be town here by meta, i made an argument for him being town at some point

ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet

I can say town .
Because as I understand You are again anglereading .
When I am trusting my metaread on that .
And I know your angleread is NAI , but You are lucky it goes Same place .
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NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 12:50 pm

Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.

proto is very likely to be town here by meta, i made an argument for him being town at some point

ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet

What... please don't say you are a PR.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri May 17, 2019 12:51 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.

proto is very likely to be town here by meta, i made an argument for him being town at some point

ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet

What... please don't say you are a PR.

Please :BlobStop:
20-24 Spoiler: Town Games(13-17)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:51 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Oof I am mafia too now? I would like to hear your reasoning as to why proto/ejj are town. Ejj I can somewhat see now but proto has nothing going for him imo.

proto is very likely to be town here by meta, i made an argument for him being town at some point

ejji is likely town for a reason which i'd rather not state yet

What... please don't say you are a PR.

no

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ok so maybe my scum team is wrong.
But there is one thing I am sure of
And that is Crimson/Chemist’s Conversation had a Scum in it!

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:31 pm

Zucker wrote:Ok so maybe my scum team is wrong.
But there is one thing I am sure of
And that is Crimson/Chemist’s Conversation had a Scum in it!

/Vote Chemist

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:Ok so maybe my scum team is wrong.
But there is one thing I am sure of
And that is Crimson/Chemist’s Conversation had a Scum in it!

/Vote Chemist

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FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 2:44 pm

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:Ok so maybe my scum team is wrong.
But there is one thing I am sure of
And that is Crimson/Chemist’s Conversation had a Scum in it!

/Vote Chemist

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 2:46 pm

I used my visions.

My Thoughts think: Flake, Proto and Chemist are Mafia
My Visions Say: Chemist and Eji are Mafia and Flake and Proto are Town.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Dash2 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pm

At this point I'm willing to believe Zucker only reads when he wants to
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Dash2 wrote:At this point I'm willing to believe Zucker only reads when he wants to

I'm willing to believe he RNGs the player list at the start of the game, making a priority list for who he'll tunnel the entire game
FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
VFM52: Citizen - Win (Died N1)
SFM60: Citizen - Loss (Endgamed, Replaced in D4)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Fri May 17, 2019 3:36 pm

im sleeping

i trust you all to not do something stupid

bye x
FM Record: 11 - 4
Spoiler: 16C: Arsonist - Win (Lived)
VFM37: Citizen - Loss (Lynched D2)
16E: Veteran - Loss (Endgamed)
SFM47: Parity Cop - Win (Lived)
17D: Mafia Vig - Win (Died N2)
VFM46: Goon - Win (Lived)
17F: Bodyguard - Win (Lived)
VFM48: Goon - Win (Lived, Replaced in N5)
VFM49: Citizen - Loss (Died N2)
SFM58: Doctor-esque - Win (Lived)
VFM50: Goon - Win (Lived)
18B: Citizen - Win (Lived)
18C: Godfather - Win (Lived)
VFM52: Citizen - Win (Died N1)
SFM60: Citizen - Loss (Endgamed, Replaced in D4)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby 0verki11 » Fri May 17, 2019 4:37 pm

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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 17, 2019 6:17 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:I need to quickly pop in and let everyone know that I'm going to be unavailable for a few hours. Lost a distant family relative and I'm going to be occupied with family for a bit.

I'm okay, others are not. Will be back soon.

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Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think tfios is mafia, as they had nothing to gain from not just committing to a Crimson lynch.

I think Rick's answer to my question of there being a deepwolf is really interesting and very potentially spewy depending on his alignment, and since tfios/Crimson/Zucker/Goomba are all unlikely mafia/flipped town I think he could be wolf with another deepwolf here, most probably Flake or ejji.

Elaborate on those 2 reads.

Flake wrote:also

rick saying "you realise you always do this" with regards to ejji scum reading rick seems incredibly fake considering ejji and rick have never played in any games together

unless the games ejji hosts that rick was in they told rick that he thought he acted scummy??? but that doesn't much make sense if they're the host, it's literally telling rick he played bad and i don't think ejji does that at all

i don't see ejji telling rick he plays scummy in games they've read of him either like

what

rick just wouldn't say that ejji "always scum reads him" if they've literally not played any games together

further adding to the idea that it's orchestrated

How does us not playing together even matter? I remember writing that we talked about previous games and if you thought about it even a bit, you have realized that your theory is very unlikely to be true.

Rick replaced out of the game I hosted and joined the chat on discord, but we talked more about 2-nd purgatory later. Still, it doesn’t really matter. Why exactly would we even want to fake that?
Now that I think of it, I admit that the interactions might look a bit weird, but regardless of that your stance makes no sense.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 17, 2019 6:25 pm

Flake wrote:also tfios has always been likely not mafia so that really would not make any sense

why is tfios not mafia?
Dash2 wrote:Jesus christ you know it's bad when Zucker starts making more sense than Flake. I need a sanity check

pfffffffft xD
Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:{Chemist, Zucker, Qva}
{Dash, tfios, Flake}
{Uzay, ejji}
{Rick, cupcake}
{Goomba, Proto}

You're better than having Qva > Me & Dash

From your PoV you should basically know I'm town at this point, and Dash is blatant town from his early game slip

The rest is acceptable from you but still bad

If it was bad, why didn’t you push chem for it before?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 17, 2019 6:41 pm

Flake wrote:From your PoV you should basically know I'm town at this point

Chemist1422 wrote:Qva is super pure but fair point I guess

I forgot about the slip from Dash early so factoring that in I guess you two are in the top row, though the bolded is really putting me off

I don’t like the intense buddying between chemist and flake

the last post might have been town indicative from Chemist though
:/ is it possible for scum to have forgotten sth like that? especially for mafia?
Chemist1422 wrote:I'm pretty sure Dash is town just from the amount of people that are agreeing with what they say, feels like there are mafia trying to pocket Dash there

I'm kinda tempted to say he didn't lie about it, because of the way he "read dash anew based on the interactions", in his last wall.

...He might have faked it if he was planning to fake a town-slip since before the day started, but I still think it might be town-indicative.
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