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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 6:11 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:oh chemist slipped non-mafia maybe

but could be fake easily


Flake wrote:oh wait it could be non-mafia or non-sk slip


/vote Flake

Easiest scumslip
You are probably Maf/NK that forget no kill credits for A moment


/Vote Flake

I hard agree!
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:11 am

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:/vote cupcake

I'm not making the same mistake twice actually. I should have stuck with this from the start


Scum will hammer this don’t do that.
Cupcake is Town and is also a really horrible player.

That’s actually very rude so can you not
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 6:15 am

Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:Town Pool: {Me, Chem, Tfios, Dash2, Zucker, Protozigg, Grumpy}

PoE Pool: {Uzay, Ejji, Rick, Qva, Cupcake}

Can You explain bolded ones ?
Actually due below being PoE Pool , just above

Proto because as Town their demeanor is never serious and always reckless & overconfident

As scum he plays recklessly and with overconfidence normally, but sometimes he will have bursts of being normal and serious where he attempts to radiate town incentive, see 17F

Seeing as it's the former I don't think he's scum here

Grumpy I now moved to PoE pool, though I'm unsure on them, initially I thought their reads would not come from Mafia but I can see it now, and I am also put off by their overdefense of themselves and them centralising their thought processes around SK, but as the same time I don't think they'd be reckless enough to say some of the things they're saying if they are scum

For me you and Qva are near impossible to read; neither of you have considerable town incentive as compared to what you'd have as scum, but neither of you are lacking it either, it's just a case of both of you being less town than most other players for me. Like neither of you are playing outside the realm of your scum meta imo.


Why you mention Proto First?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 6:15 am

Flake wrote:Like forcibly I think it's likely at least one of you (Uzay) and Qva are scum. But if 1, I have no idea which it'd be, probably I'd guess you for maybe being less aggressive than you normally would be as town


There both Town.
Stop trying to change that Scum!
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 6:18 am

Zucker wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:oh chemist slipped non-mafia maybe

but could be fake easily


Flake wrote:oh wait it could be non-mafia or non-sk slip


/vote Flake

Easiest scumslip
You are probably Maf/NK that forget no kill credits for A moment


/Vote Flake

I hard agree!
Me think it’s Flake, Chemist and Proto!

The fuck happened to your dash tunnel? You even said that apparently dash is scum if crimson flips town...
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:18 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:chemist is probably town for not crumbling there

i think he would have if he genuinely faked the slip

Or The scum
Which didnt kill Eragon
From your Logic .

But I Dont think Chem's slip was AI
I know , You was thinking "Chem wouldnt give that reactions as scum "

But , If he planned The slip , He can plan How can he defend after slip, too
So I Dont think Chem's posts at there are even AI
Chem can be everything with that slip IMO

This is probably the most logical post that has been made all day

How, it's literally just stating the obvious

Exactly
Zucker wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:Town Pool: {Me, Chem, Tfios, Dash2, Zucker, Protozigg, Grumpy}

PoE Pool: {Uzay, Ejji, Rick, Qva, Cupcake}

Can You explain bolded ones ?
Actually due below being PoE Pool , just above

Proto because as Town their demeanor is never serious and always reckless & overconfident

As scum he plays recklessly and with overconfidence normally, but sometimes he will have bursts of being normal and serious where he attempts to radiate town incentive, see 17F

Seeing as it's the former I don't think he's scum here

Grumpy I now moved to PoE pool, though I'm unsure on them, initially I thought their reads would not come from Mafia but I can see it now, and I am also put off by their overdefense of themselves and them centralising their thought processes around SK, but as the same time I don't think they'd be reckless enough to say some of the things they're saying if they are scum

For me you and Qva are near impossible to read; neither of you have considerable town incentive as compared to what you'd have as scum, but neither of you are lacking it either, it's just a case of both of you being less town than most other players for me. Like neither of you are playing outside the realm of your scum meta imo.


Why you mention Proto First?

>proto is first in the readslist
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 6:19 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:/vote cupcake

I'm not making the same mistake twice actually. I should have stuck with this from the start


Scum will hammer this don’t do that.
Cupcake is Town and is also a really horrible player.

That’s actually very rude so can you not


How’s that rude?

/Vote Chemist
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Fri May 17, 2019 6:20 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Zucker wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:oh chemist slipped non-mafia maybe

but could be fake easily


Flake wrote:oh wait it could be non-mafia or non-sk slip


/vote Flake

Easiest scumslip
You are probably Maf/NK that forget no kill credits for A moment


/Vote Flake

I hard agree!
Me think it’s Flake, Chemist and Proto!

The fuck happened to your dash tunnel? You even said that apparently dash is scum if crimson flips town...


Oh Dash is SK, I want to take down Mafia first! ^_^
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 6:21 am

You do you buddy... you do you.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:36 am

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:/vote cupcake

I'm not making the same mistake twice actually. I should have stuck with this from the start


Scum will hammer this don’t do that.
Cupcake is Town and is also a really horrible player.

That’s actually very rude so can you not


How’s that rude?

/Vote Chemist

Oh my god do you actually not see the problem here
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:30 am

Dash2 wrote:I hope you're happy what you've done

You probably could have outed this at daystart

/vote cupcake
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:37 am

I wonder if I truly would've put this much focus on me being the sk if I actually were sk...

Anyways nope you are wrong. Swap me for ejj and that's a go on the scums.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:37 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:I hope you're happy what you've done

You probably could have outed this at daystart

/vote cupcake

no he shouldn't have

todays lynch either diverged to cupcake or ejji, probably cupcake because everyone had cupcake lower on their reads

/vote cupcake

>three people entered thread voting me
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Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:I hope you're happy what you've done

You probably could have outed this at daystart

/vote cupcake


Why? Isn't it better to fish for opinions first?

Fair enough, probably just biased that I had to go through that mess of a daystart
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Dash2 wrote:This is absolute chaos I'm about to replace out

honestly the only thing really annoying me about this game is zucker

Same
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:40 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:I hope you're happy what you've done

You probably could have outed this at daystart

/vote cupcake

no he shouldn't have

todays lynch either diverged to cupcake or ejji, probably cupcake because everyone had cupcake lower on their reads

/vote cupcake

>three people entered thread voting me

bold of you to assume i'd ever allow you to die today

Don't make me post the hubris definition again
Qvapil wrote:Guys majority is 7 right? Let's slow down with the votes, we have over 24 hours left. Flake why would you mention lynching ejji while we have outed scum?

There are like three votes on cupcake, calm
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:41 am

Revised:

{Chemist, Dash, Flake, tfios}
{Zucker, Qva, Uzay}
{Rick}
{Ejji, Proto}
{cupcake, Goomba}
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:43 am

Also, those who were voting for cupcake before dash outted his scum check are unlikely to be mafia imo.

And chemist still hates me. Ouch.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:46 am

Dash2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ;
Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ;
Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ;
Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ;
Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


At least one scum had to have been on Crimson's wagon. I'm inclined to say there were probably 2 here.

I didn't realize tfios ended up on the Crimson wagon, move them down a tier

I think there's at least one wolf not voting just because the crimson wagon is literally everyone in my top three tiers, and I doubt wolves doubled down on cupcake
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:46 am

Flake wrote:so if cupcake is mafia

0ver likely didn't prod them to join maf chat, or likely they weren't required to join maf chat for day to begin

or they said they didn't read rolecard start of d1 whilst they knew they were scum? but like why would mafia!cupcake do that, seems weird

They could have just lied

I think you're overthinking this
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:49 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ;
Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ;
Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ;
Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ;
Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


At least one scum had to have been on Crimson's wagon. I'm inclined to say there were probably 2 here.

I didn't realize tfios ended up on the Crimson wagon, move them down a tier

I think there's at least one wolf not voting just because the crimson wagon is literally everyone in my top three tiers, and I doubt wolves doubled down on cupcake

I think this is true unless Rick is exactly a wolf
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:53 am

Bold of you to think I would take offense to that.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 7:55 am

I assume deepwolf means scum that are trying to act townie by sacrificing their scum teammates.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:58 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ;
Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ;
Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ;
Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ;
Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


At least one scum had to have been on Crimson's wagon. I'm inclined to say there were probably 2 here.

I didn't realize tfios ended up on the Crimson wagon, move them down a tier

I think there's at least one wolf not voting just because the crimson wagon is literally everyone in my top three tiers, and I doubt wolves doubled down on cupcake

I think this is true unless Rick is exactly a wolf

only person not voting is Phone though

who is flipped town

Okay I miscounted

It’s probably just cupcake/Rick/ejji at this point
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:20 am

Flake wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Flake wrote:
Flake wrote:1 mafia not on either crimson or cupcake (which would be cupcake), 1 mafia on cupcake and 1 on crimson would make sense

or

1 mafia not on either crimson or cupcake (which would be cupcake) and 2 mafia on crimson

if it's the former, the mafia on cupcake is probably always ejji, and the 3rd mafia is probably Uzay, giving {cupcake, uzay, ejji}

if it's the latter, i think it's probably {cupcake, uzay, rick/qva}


Why uzay?

PoE on crimson's wagon

Walk me through why Uzay and not Rick
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 17, 2019 8:59 am

Fuck, I’m really unsure if I’ll be able to play normally here ):
I’m usually unable to read and respond to more than 10 pages a day and there are already 20 new ones now…


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Fri May 17, 2019 9:00 am

Catchup
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Flake wrote:tfios (town lean):
funnily enough tfios i believe has never opened as scum claiming a town role, but she does it fairly frequently as town and has then flipped town every time

additionally, her scum entrances usually are more an awkward attempt at being happy-go-lucky and doesn't claim (e.g in VFM46, SFM56, VFM47), but as town she just doesn't give as much of a shit and claim sometimes because lol (VFM48, 17F)

i'm actually kind of scared by how accurate this read probably is LOL

I find it doubtful that you actually believe it
I agree with the read on Zeth though

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Well that is exactly what I wanted to say. Scum are gonna keep me alive instead of killing me at night to aim for a mislynch. Exactly the reason why I abandoned that plan.

Tbh that sounds like bullshit as well

Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:AtE = Attack through Empathy. Basically when you try to use emotion to gain towncred

It’s actually Appeal to Emotion but same idea

I’m okay with going for Proto today

Said before Proto said anything contributive
Prob not SvS

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.


Crimson and Uzay aren't the same alignment if he flips scum


That’s wrong.
Your not in the same Alignment.
Lol dash do you think I’m fuckin stupid or something?
Your obviously going to kill me after Crimson is lynched then claim is Uzay when I already stated previously it was you.
LOOOOOOLLL Your Bad!

What do you think was actually wrong with that post?

Chemist1422 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:By gamestate I'd go crimson over cupcake just because most of the lownull people are going after cupcake over crimson

Cupcake wagon seems more wolf-driven


Also the soft part of my headphones fell off so I'm gonna spend the next 20 minutes trying to fix that bye

what

i completely disagree

Goomba and tfios are both low nulls and pushing on cupcake

I don't like them on the wagon, I don't like people like them ignoring crimson

Tfio said she’s ok with either Cup or Crims, so tbh I don’t understand chemist’s reasoning here.
I don’t like his progression on crimson anyway. He seems to have been SRing him only because of SvS interactions with tfios (based on tfios’s reads), so I find it funny that he didn’t push tfios instead.

Chemist1422 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:I’m okay with either a cupcake Lynch or a crimson lynch, proto zigg should never be lynched at this point in this case since their slot is unreadable at the moment due to inactivity , hopefully a more active player replaces in

As to crimson and cupcake, they have both been actively inactive, crimson moreso than cupcake, by posting barely anything helpful from a townie perspective. IMO, crimson is doing this more than cupcake, but cupcake appears to be the top wagon , so like I said I’m fine with either

Like look at this

Tfios's only reason for considering cupcake is inactivity and them being top wagon

This is shade
And tfio said the exact same thing about crimson and cup, so why exactly did you think their read on cup was worse than on crimson?
The stance makes absolutely no sense to me.

Flake wrote:goomba wim seems way too high to be coming from a new scum player imo

Have they not played scum before?
And what do you mean by “high”?


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