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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 7:32 pm

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Zucker wrote:Chemist has Requested to know why Dash voted them.
Chemist, is like to redirect you to a magical place called nearing the end of Day 1. ^_^
Start on page 38 and make your way through! ^_^

I didn't even say that at all what


”why did dash enter the thread voting me?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:33 pm

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:Chemist has Requested to know why Dash voted them.
Chemist, is like to redirect you to a magical place called nearing the end of Day 1. ^_^
Start on page 38 and make your way through! ^_^

I didn't even say that at all what


”why did dash enter the thread voting me?

At this point you're actively twisting my words

The full context was "If Dash didn't already think I was scum then why did they enter the thread voting me"
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 7:34 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Dash, to be fair, you haven't responded to any of my explanations and are just shading Flake for defending me.


At this point it obvious.
Town can see mafia now.
You lose. try again next game. ^_^

Flake - Bad Kill, Pushed Chemist awkwardly then calls him Confirms town like Proto
Chemist - Bad the entire game
Proto - Called Chemist Confirmed Town, Chemist has them as possible scum.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:34 pm

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:yeah so im like

99% sure that slip wasn't fake, else chemist would have crumbled and not thought of the only solution available to get out of it

sorry for being aggressive there but i knew it would get a positive result even if my logic was wrong

though i genuinely thought i caught scum then LOL

Ok fuck no this is bullshit right here

Dash2 wrote:Jesus christ you know it's bad when Zucker starts making more sense than Flake. I need a sanity check

just wanted to say that im on a phone and skimming whenever i can
and this is pretty much me exactly right now

Chemist1422 wrote:Dash, to be fair, you haven't responded to any of my explanations and are just shading Flake for defending me.

no
nuh uh
your "slip" exchange with flake felt forced and fake as fuck

and the fact that flake both pretends to be my whisperer when we played exactly zero games together
while also pretending to not know that ejj and i are close friends when we openly pair together on threads where i play
is actually pissing me off
and watching you suck up to this when you have played with me and know better isnt impressive either
i see this scum team and the fact that zucker does too has me panicking
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:35 pm

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Dash, to be fair, you haven't responded to any of my explanations and are just shading Flake for defending me.


At this point it obvious.
Town can see mafia now.
You lose. try again next game. ^_^

Flake - Bad Kill, Pushed Chemist awkwardly then calls him Confirms town like Proto
Chemist - Bad the entire game
Proto - Called Chemist Confirmed Town, Chemist has them as possible scum.

What does "bad kill" mean

How have I been bad the entire game

And with regards to your Proto read, that's solely based on me being mafia, which I'm not.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:35 pm

What bizarro world have I stepped into
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 7:39 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Dash, to be fair, you haven't responded to any of my explanations and are just shading Flake for defending me.


At this point it obvious.
Town can see mafia now.
You lose. try again next game. ^_^

Flake - Bad Kill, Pushed Chemist awkwardly then calls him Confirms town like Proto
Chemist - Bad the entire game
Proto - Called Chemist Confirmed Town, Chemist has them as possible scum.

What does "bad kill" mean

How have I been bad the entire game

And with regards to your Proto read, that's solely based on me being mafia, which I'm not.


Flake didn’t kill Town Read.
Why were you focused on that exactly?
If you haven’t seen yourself this game then your just as bad as Crimson this game.
Chemist confirm Proto?
Chemist claims his read for Proto means he Mafia.
Proto was one that called Chemist locked scum.
Chemist defends Proto a Scum Read.
Wow Chemist you really ruin the entire mafia this game didn’t you? ^_^
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:42 pm

I'm pretty sure Dash is town just from the amount of people that are agreeing with what they say, feels like there are mafia trying to pocket Dash there

Uzay is null, ejji is null, both might change with more flips

I'm townreading Flake for confbias reasons, I don't think he goes so far out of his way to defend town!me as scum

Zucker probably town by meta+townslip

Cupcake is wolfy but not in their wolf meta, so not really sure

Tfios and Proto I already touched on

Rick I already mentioned

Goomba is wolfy in a weird way from their D1 AtE and defensiveness

Qva is towny because they're actually taking stances and pushing stuff unlike how they did when they were scum

{Chemist, Zucker, Qva}
{Dash, tfios, Flake}
{Uzay, ejji}
{Rick, cupcake}
{Goomba, Proto}
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:42 pm

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Dash, to be fair, you haven't responded to any of my explanations and are just shading Flake for defending me.


At this point it obvious.
Town can see mafia now.
You lose. try again next game. ^_^

Flake - Bad Kill, Pushed Chemist awkwardly then calls him Confirms town like Proto
Chemist - Bad the entire game
Proto - Called Chemist Confirmed Town, Chemist has them as possible scum.

What does "bad kill" mean

How have I been bad the entire game

And with regards to your Proto read, that's solely based on me being mafia, which I'm not.


Flake didn’t kill Town Read.
Why were you focused on that exactly?
If you haven’t seen yourself this game then your just as bad as Crimson this game.
Chemist confirm Proto?
Chemist claims his read for Proto means he Mafia.
Proto was one that called Chemist locked scum.
Chemist defends Proto a Scum Read.
Wow Chemist you really ruin the entire mafia this game didn’t you? ^_^

I cannot even understand this at all
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:46 pm

Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Sorry about the wait
Phone0lx has been killed, he was Doctor
Eragon1239 has been killed, he was Citizen
48 hours glgl.

By the way both of these are shit kill options for scum, so either the Vig was one of them or scum has bad sense of choices

i mean then where did one of the scum kills go, you think someone was attacked & healed?

eragon wouldn't be bad for mafia

phone i do not get at all if mafia killed them

makes sense if sk tried to kill mafia!phone

probs maf killed era and sk killed phone i'm guessing

but yeah both kills were good for my poe so

but maybe that suggests my poe isn't great, idk

discussion here is straight up lamist
zero points speculating this without kill credits and with the switches to consider

Flake wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:while also pretending to not know that ejj and i are close friends when we openly pair together on threads where i play
is actually pissing me off

show me evidence

if you dont know this
you have zero fucking business meta reading me and speculating what conversations ejj and i shouldnt be having
on this you can straight up piss off

Flake wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:no
nuh uh
your "slip" exchange with flake felt forced and fake as fuck

if you think the slip exchange is fake you are stupid

scum never orchestrates something as intricate as that

because mafia never do a scum theater
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:47 pm

Flake wrote:someone remind me why literally everyone is tring ejji

they've done literally nothing that has actually improved the gamestate for town the entire game

I'm not

They're null pending flips from certain players
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:48 pm

i cant keep on here but i will keep trying to skim
should be on a computer closer to 4 hours
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 7:49 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Flake wrote:someone remind me why literally everyone is tring ejji

they've done literally nothing that has actually improved the gamestate for town the entire game

I'm not

They're null pending flips from certain players


I’m not either.
Why make yourself important.
Give up sir, your battles over!
Soon, Flake’s is as well. ^_^
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:50 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Flake wrote:someone remind me why literally everyone is tring ejji

they've done literally nothing that has actually improved the gamestate for town the entire game

I'm not

They're null pending flips from certain players

note: said players being goomba, cupcake, rick

rick w, goomba v/n, or cupcake v makes them look worse
rick v, goomba w, cupcake w makes them look better
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Chemist1422 wrote:
Flake wrote:someone remind me why literally everyone is tring ejji

they've done literally nothing that has actually improved the gamestate for town the entire game

I'm not

They're null pending flips from certain players


I’m not either.
Why make yourself important.
Give up sir, your battles over!
Soon, Flake’s is as well. ^_^

Flake basically ignored me so I wanted to make sure he did actually read my reads
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:55 pm

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:{Chemist, Zucker, Qva}
{Dash, tfios, Flake}
{Uzay, ejji}
{Rick, cupcake}
{Goomba, Proto}

You're better than having Qva > Me & Dash

From your PoV you should basically know I'm town at this point, and Dash is blatant town from his early game slip

The rest is acceptable from you but still bad

Qva is super pure but fair point I guess

I forgot about the slip from Dash early so factoring that in I guess you two are in the top row, though the bolded is really putting me off
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:02 pm

Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 8:07 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.


Can we push on you based on the way you and flake communicated to each other? ^_^
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:11 pm

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.


Can we push on you based on the way you and flake communicated to each other? ^_^

If you think we're wolves because of it

Though you have to get specific evidence with actual explanations
Dash2 wrote:Let me show you basic logic 101

If you're town you don't acknowledge that you slipped at all. The fact that you claimed you knew the slip was there and left it does not tell me the slip was accidental.

I knew the possiblity for a slip was there when I made the post

I forgot it was there when I posted

I acknowledged it because I looked to see what Flake was talking about and remembered when I saw it
Dash2 wrote:Now, the fact that you suddenly attacked me for calling you out FURTHER lets me know you know you're in the wrong, and are trying to shade me over it

I didn't even attack you

I said you haven't responded to my defense, which you haven't. And calling someone "scum or dumb" is shade.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:12 pm

Dash2 wrote:In other words not even a bad person would make that mistake

You clearly underestimate my stupidity then
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:17 pm

Dash2 wrote:No it's literally not. Calling someone scum or dumb is not shade if there's literal evidence backing it up. And don't try to back out of it because I can quote two posts showing how you started trying to call me out on it.

Also your so-called "explanation" is forced as hell

I tried to call you on it because you deserved to be called on it

You never acknowledged my points
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Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:In other words not even a bad person would make that mistake

You clearly underestimate my stupidity then

You're literally making excuses at this point

You're not giving me a window to explain myself with these kinds of posts

I've explained why I did what I did and why it doesn't make me scum and you're dismissing it as an excuse
Flake wrote:this game is becoming a clusterfuck

"becoming"
Dash2 wrote:Chemist no town ever acts this way and you know that

You said the same about Crimson and I told you not to use absolutes
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:22 pm

Flake wrote:look can my town pool stop being bad and just lynch the obv scum in ejjinami

thanks

I don't think ejji is obv scum

I think Goomba is the best lynch today, their alignment says a lot about ejji and I think they flip scum in a lot of scenarios here

/vote GrumpyGoomba
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 8:26 pm

Flake wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Sorry about the wait
Phone0lx has been killed, he was Doctor
Eragon1239 has been killed, he was Citizen
48 hours glgl.

By the way both of these are shit kill options for scum, so either the Vig was one of them or scum has bad sense of choices

i mean then where did one of the scum kills go, you think someone was attacked & healed?

eragon wouldn't be bad for mafia

phone i do not get at all if mafia killed them

makes sense if sk tried to kill mafia!phone

probs maf killed era and sk killed phone i'm guessing

but yeah both kills were good for my poe so

but maybe that suggests my poe isn't great, idk

discussion here is straight up lamist
zero points speculating this without kill credits and with the switches to consider

It's not lamist, it's just me making points from my PoV, is that not acceptable??

And why would I consider switches here, I literally didn't need to at all, first point implies a possibility occurred so switches isn't relevant here, rest of the points are takes regarding kills for which I wouldn't need to mention switches at all

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:while also pretending to not know that ejj and i are close friends when we openly pair together on threads where i play
is actually pissing me off

show me evidence

if you dont know this
you have zero fucking business meta reading me and speculating what conversations ejj and i shouldnt be having
on this you can straight up piss off

Uh

am I missing something or am i literally being vilified for speculating something that is potentially helpful to the game?

sorry if you're offended by that but i literally don't understand why you would be

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:no
nuh uh
your "slip" exchange with flake felt forced and fake as fuck

if you think the slip exchange is fake you are stupid

scum never orchestrates something as intricate as that

because mafia never do a scum theater
right

They do

But you're missing my point entirely

If you'd somewhat analysed what went down you would know that it is too intricate to ever be faked by literally anyone on this site


Flake realize he mess up
Flake push Rick
Flake regret situation with Chemist
Flake yelling at Chemist in Mafia Chat.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Flake wrote:goomba's reads don't make sense coming from mafia

I disagree, they could easily be coached to do that, especially if they have a more experienced player in their mafia

It makes them more likely town, but their weird AtE attempt and claim really don't sit right with me
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist no town ever acts this way and you know that

If he knew that then why would scum!chemist admit to it

It's literally just WIFOM at this point

The better take is to look at Chemist's demeanour throughout my aggressiveness; do you think that comes from Scum!Chemist? Because I don't

It's literally not even the actual slip I'm talking about, which by the way isn't even a slip to begin with. Your argument is relying on the fact that scum wouldn't admit to a mistake, which is false thinking on your part. Think about how it was brought into the thread and the actual explanation itself. It doesn't make sense at all.

Again, you're not giving me any room to explain myself. You're saying it doesn't make sense, but it has to make sense in some world because that's what happened, and you're not giving me any way to prove it in the world that I am town.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Zucker wrote:
Flake wrote:snip


Flake realize he mess up
Flake push Rick
Flake regret situation with Chemist
Flake yelling at Chemist in Mafia Chat.

Can you please stop acting like this

You're not right on everything, so don't act like it
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Thu May 16, 2019 8:28 pm

Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist no town ever acts this way and you know that

If he knew that then why would scum!chemist admit to it

It's literally just WIFOM at this point

The better take is to look at Chemist's demeanour throughout my aggressiveness; do you think that comes from Scum!Chemist? Because I don't


If you read Chemist he was scummy this game.
You sorta are too.
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