Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Wins)

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Watt2015 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:01 am

Kmenx wrote:
Watt2015 wrote:The associative reads were garbage this game too :v just sayin

The only one thst was wrong was Jalandh


And the one calling me scum based on HTG :v That was wrong too bucko.

smh can I get a game where people aren't running around like a bunch of idiots though? Kinda tired of Town being fucking ignorant.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby EvanManManMan » Wed May 15, 2019 9:10 am

Every day we descend further into madness

You guys literally let an outed third party win the game

How bad can you be for that to happen
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Kmenx » Wed May 15, 2019 9:14 am

Google wrote:
Kmenx wrote:If you are leaving because of thşs game just don't be better next time if not bye I guess

no I'm just leaving.
just been waiting to the end of this
what do you mean 'just dont be better next time'

I meant be better my bad
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Jalandh » Wed May 15, 2019 9:15 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Every day we descend further into madness

You guys literally let an outed third party win the game

How bad can you be for that to happen


"Atleast it wasnt a mafia win"
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Kmenx » Wed May 15, 2019 9:16 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Every day we descend further into madness

You guys literally let an outed third party win the game

How bad can you be for that to happen

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Kmenx » Wed May 15, 2019 9:17 am

Jalandh wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Every day we descend further into madness

You guys literally let an outed third party win the game

How bad can you be for that to happen


"Atleast it wasnt a mafia win"

Not that atleast it wasn't a mafia win town just let Eragon who was assisting town win over you
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Watt2015 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:20 am

Oh I lost my wim somewhere around D2. Being vastly ignored and improperly scumread did not help me.

I'm still salty that those half-baked scumreads based upon meta from 3-4 years ago, a lousy associative read, and me voting someone I felt could be scum (That was further backed by a TI claim), and then my counter-cases were ignored (again) except for a lousy "They aren't bad reads"

You call yourselves good at the game, but you played like shit.
By the time I confirmed myself, my wim was gone, and Town wanted to let the 3p make their decisions for them. Hell, even after I mentioned that he's apt to gain something from it you all ignored me.

Highly suggest some of you read this.

I was actually using some info I read there to help me here, like when I called Jal out for that vote swap last minute? Hey look, he's Scum. Hate to say it (but I actually don't) but I fuckin told you so. Anyways, after you all read that, click the link in my sig, because you probably fucking need it.

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B)

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:21 am

Jalandh wrote:Yeah I'm done with FM for a while. Made a long post about whether Episodes should award randing a specific alignment over good plays but I guess I can delete it.

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Descender » Wed May 15, 2019 9:24 am

Watt2015 wrote:Oh I lost my wim somewhere around D2. Being vastly ignored and improperly scumread did not help me.

I'm still salty that those half-baked scumreads based upon meta from 3-4 years ago, a lousy associative read, and me voting someone I felt could be scum (That was further backed by a TI claim), and then my counter-cases were ignored (again) except for a lousy "They aren't bad reads"

You call yourselves good at the game, but you played like shit.
By the time I confirmed myself, my wim was gone, and Town wanted to let the 3p make their decisions for them. Hell, even after I mentioned that he's apt to gain something from it you all ignored me.

Highly suggest some of you read this.

I was actually using some info I read there to help me here, like when I called Jal out for that vote swap last minute? Hey look, he's Scum. Hate to say it (but I actually don't) but I fuckin told you so. Anyways, after you all read that, click the link in my sig, because you probably fucking need it.

Salt rant over.

is this just a tradition now or

Chemist1422 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Yeah I'm done with FM for a while. Made a long post about whether Episodes should award randing a specific alignment over good plays but I guess I can delete it.

:c

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:27 am

Google you’ve said you were leaving multiple times without doing it so I kinda doubt you
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Descender » Wed May 15, 2019 9:29 am

Chemist1422 wrote:Google you’ve said you were leaving multiple times without doing it so I kinda doubt you

I left for a month in december/the one before decemember, coming back mid january
I've switched alts multiple times for a fresh start because otherwise I would not stay
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby jucktropy » Wed May 15, 2019 9:45 am

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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TheDebil » Wed May 15, 2019 9:59 am

lmao oof
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby jucktropy » Wed May 15, 2019 10:00 am

Flake wrote:not that i read this game but how did arso!eragon that was outed early on win the game


arso was town sided and wanted mafia do get die un the douses were town and we gave him win gg
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Watt2015 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:03 am

jucktropy wrote:
Flake wrote:not that i read this game but how did arso!eragon that was outed early on win the game


arso was town sided and wanted mafia do get die un the douses were town and we gave him win gg


Eh? That’s not at all why I allowed it. The decision was made back before Ryan was even doused. Supposing it was a 1v1v1, I end the Mafia, then hopefully play WIFOM and either cap the Arso and gain bragging rights, or the NK wins.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby TheDebil » Wed May 15, 2019 10:06 am

TheDebil wrote:lmao oof

a B is good though. well done flavor man
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Phone0Ix » Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 am

Doesnt Witch also win?
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Descender » Wed May 15, 2019 10:08 am

Watt2015 wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
Flake wrote:not that i read this game but how did arso!eragon that was outed early on win the game


arso was town sided and wanted mafia do get die un the douses were town and we gave him win gg


Eh? That’s not at all why I allowed it. The decision was made back before Ryan was even doused. Supposing it was a 1v1v1, I end the Mafia, then hopefully play WIFOM and either cap the Arso and gain bragging rights, or the NK wins.

I logged on to a townsided outed arso with no one really caring and just trying to use it and was so fucking confused I went with it
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Wed May 15, 2019 10:09 am

Flake wrote:not that i read this game but how did arso!eragon that was outed early on win the game

Google misread his role pm and confirmed the last mafia as town
It was going to be a 66/33 flip town/arso win
Instead it went to 1v1v1
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Descender » Wed May 15, 2019 10:11 am

ryanyb wrote:
Flake wrote:not that i read this game but how did arso!eragon that was outed early on win the game

Google misread his role pm and confirmed the last mafia as town
It was going to be a 66/33 flip town/arso win
Instead it went to 1v1v1

I didn't misread it! Do you think I'm an idiot?!



















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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Wed May 15, 2019 10:17 am

Just to clarify so it doesn’t sound like I’m not pinning any blame on myself:
There was a lot of poor play from many different town myself included
There wasn’t a single moment that lost us the game it was an unfortunate combination of many bad plays.

Watt you’re going to get pushed when you’re town it happens and it’s how town find each other. But you can’t lock up and refuse to post anything except a defense when pressure gets put on you because it makes you look frozen.
I shouldn’t have pushed as hard as I did on tfios d1 I guess.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Wed May 15, 2019 10:21 am

Also what I don’t think some spectators realize is that the arso had the game solved, their best shot at winning was 33% with the information provided. The fact jaland was mafia which was logically impossible meant that we were flipping a coin on town vs arso win.

Town was in a position where we couldn’t ml once and the arso ignite would resolve one town and one mafia 66% of the time and two town 33% of the time.

The arso was fine. This wasn’t a “how’d you let the arso win” because eragon is as surprised as we are. Eragon had no grand scheme, he didn’t lie and he didn’t go astray from the plan.

It’s that we had no way to know jaland was scum
When I tried to bring it up 1) watt wasn’t here who apparently also wanted jaland pushed so that’s unlucky ig and 2) it was impossible for jaland to be scum because of google’s claim.
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Wed May 15, 2019 10:22 am

Town didn’t lose to arso
Town lost to town
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:22 am

I was the only spectator but yeah Eragon was playing the odds given what he knew
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Re: Episode XVIII | Game Over (Final Grade: B - Arsonist Win

Postby ryanyb » Wed May 15, 2019 10:25 am

Also let me be clear here: eragon wasn’t playing against his wincon I was watching that very closely
He was playing the odds, we all thought he had a 1/3 shot at the win and so did he
But turns out it was 100% which was known to no one but jaland
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