VFM 49: SK win #rekt

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:07 am

Eragon1329 wrote:Wait what the hell

I’m still confused about the switch stuff

So let’s say a hypothetical
Mafia chooses to switch vigilante and cop off
But keep doctor

Serial killer can turn specific ones off and on, or they have to do ALL or NONE?
So let’s say serial killer switches
Does it become
-doc blocked
-cop/vigi unblocked?

Or

Is it whichever specific ones the serial killer chooses?



I am assuming All of these are True :

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Pregame, the Serial Killer chooses an immunity: Mafia NK Immunity OR Vig/Cop Immunity.
Each night, the town powerroles are active pending a player "switching" them off.
The Mafia Cop Switch may switch off the Cop for example, with each Mafia player controlling a switch over a town PR.
However, the SK has the ability to reverse any switches' state. For example, if the Mafia Doc Switch leaves the Doctor active, the SK choosing to reverse the Doc's switch will cause it to be inactive.
The Serial Killer may reverse all three, none of the switches or any combination in between.
An individual mafia member may not submit the factional kill AND deactivate a switch on the same night"
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:08 am

Dash2 wrote:Visualize this

Cop: On
Doc: On
Vig: Off

If no SK interference, it stays like this. If there is SK interference, the switches are reversed

:Facepalm:
This Dont feel geniune .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:09 am

Eragon1329 wrote:Ok

So it’s a complete switch

Thanks

Yes ok this game is like
WIFOM
but both wines are poison

P-edit: honesty I’m just doing it to make a point and Becuase I haven’t fully caught up yet


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:17 am

Dash2 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Visualize this

Cop: On
Doc: On
Vig: Off

If no SK interference, it stays like this. If there is SK interference, the switches are reversed

:Facepalm:
This Dont feel geniune .

I was literally explaining to eragon how the system works

The thing is
İt isnt How it Work
Essentially A slip
Which I Dont see geniune
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 11:20 am

Dash2 wrote:AtE = Attack through Empathy. Basically when you try to use emotion to gain towncred

It’s actually Appeal to Emotion but same idea

I’m okay with going for Proto today
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 11:23 am

They have one AI post and it’s calling something NAI

Unless they give more commentary on the thread I’m willing to go for them
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:23 am

Dash2 wrote:That's exactly how it works

Why would SK have 8-shot If they can reverse All with one ability
It is obvious it wont went through until Night 8
And in The Game I mentioned , it was Like How I say .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:24 am

And TBH Dash insisting on that instead Actually looking seems fake to me.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 11:25 am

Imo we shouldn't go for proto. We don't know nearly enough about them. I suggest a cupcake lynch is better.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 11:26 am

Dash2 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:They have one AI post and it’s calling something NAI

Unless they give more commentary on the thread I’m willing to go for them

We have better lynch options what the fuck are you on

I guess

We’re not leaving them to endgame though
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue May 14, 2019 11:26 am

I Will come about one hour .
I Like Flake's lynch Pool , Will post The read on Pool .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 11:29 am

Wait what? How would that work? I thought that it only consumes one charge regardless of what mafia do.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am

Pregame you must choose to be either immune to the Mafia Nightkill OR be immune to Vig/Cop. Reply to this message to decide, not deciding will result in me RNGing it
Each night phase, you may select a player in the game to nightkill.
Each night phase, you may reverse the state of all switches. This will trigger the opposite outcome of how the mafia have left a switch. This will also use up a charge of the switcher if they used it.
If you switch a power role and they are not being switched they are switched off.
Each switch uses a Charge, you have 8 charges.
Win condition:
You win when you are last person alive.or nothing can stop this from happening

It doesn't tell anything about multiple charges right? Only that the switcher themselves lose a charge if they switch.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:42 am

Dash2 wrote:SO WAIT I JUST REALIZED

DOES SK KILL AND SWITCH AT THE SAME TIME OR????

ESSENTIALLY WE CAN HAVE 1 KPN IF SK SWITCHES

WHAT THE FUCK HANG ON

i would guess say they can switch and kill in the same night
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:42 am

Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:SO WAIT I JUST REALIZED

DOES SK KILL AND SWITCH AT THE SAME TIME OR????

ESSENTIALLY WE CAN HAVE 1 KPN IF SK SWITCHES

WHAT THE FUCK HANG ON

i would guess they can switch and kill in the same night

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 11:44 am

Me hate ingles. It too hard.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 11:46 am

Well I think sk might be able to kill and switch at the same time... else sk will be too UP.

When the fk did this become a discussion about game mechanics lmao.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:50 am

if sk can't switch and kill in the same night that's like very stupid

so i doubt it
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:53 am

wait

@Host

does killing use a charge?

so like killing and using a switch in the same night would use 2 charges?

because why is SK given 8 charges if only switches use a charge, SK may as well have infinite charges if that's the case
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:59 am

Dash2 wrote:Why would killing use a charge

no idea but the amount of charges is weird if it's only for switches
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 11:59 am

Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Why would killing use a charge

no idea but the amount of charges is weird if it's only for switches

it's only not weird if kills used charges
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 12:03 pm

Dash2 wrote:So like let's say the mafia knows this and purposely doesn't kill for 2 nights and uses all 3. SK wouldn't be able to kill and defeats the purpose of being an SK

what
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Tue May 14, 2019 12:03 pm

i meant kills use charges for only SK not mafia
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby tfiosforevah » Tue May 14, 2019 12:45 pm

I’m okay with either a cupcake Lynch or a crimson lynch, proto zigg should never be lynched at this point in this case since their slot is unreadable at the moment due to inactivity , hopefully a more active player replaces in

As to crimson and cupcake, they have both been actively inactive, crimson moreso than cupcake, by posting barely anything helpful from a townie perspective. IMO, crimson is doing this more than cupcake, but cupcake appears to be the top wagon , so like I said I’m fine with either
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 12:48 pm

tfiosforevah wrote:I’m okay with either a cupcake Lynch or a crimson lynch, proto zigg should never be lynched at this point in this case since their slot is unreadable at the moment due to inactivity , hopefully a more active player replaces in

As to crimson and cupcake, they have both been actively inactive, crimson moreso than cupcake, by posting barely anything helpful from a townie perspective. IMO, crimson is doing this more than cupcake, but cupcake appears to be the top wagon , so like I said I’m fine with either


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