VFM 49: SK win #rekt

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:24 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:Just quickly skimming back into the thread again, Goomba just seems like a bit of noise. Doesn't seem too opportunistic for me right now, or at least, I didn't see him taking any strong stance unless I'm skimming too hard. Normally this would be more annoying, but again, the game is still pretty fresh and I can forgive that sort of thing right now. I think Zucker has been a bit more opportunistic in comparison to Goomba as it stands.

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I absolutely disagree… I really don’t like that read
All of grumpy’s posts being fluff and them reading the thread, but only responding to stuff unrelated to scum-hunting should be scum-indicative, their posts are tonally bad and I see no reason to forgive that, regardless of how much time has passed.
And how the heck can Grumpy be opportunistic if he doesn’t push anyone at all?

Your stance makes no sense. I strongly disagree with the read and I really don’t like you pushing an alternative “easy ML” in the same post for no exact reason. Actually, it feels like you wrote about Grumpy not being opportunistic just so that you could start talking about Zucker. It makes little sense otherwise
Idk if I’m overthinking it, but oh god, I really, really, REALLY dislike that post.

I’m getting more and more tempted to lynch grumpy today…

Rickdaily12 wrote:Chemist, by the way, is it confirmed if Zucker is Seth? Even if it's Seth, I can't get behind thinking Seth has learned literally nothing in the time he's spent with us so far already. I feel like even if this really is him, his approach so far has been poor, even for him.

Regardless if Zucker is seth or not, you have to agree they don’t seem to be concerned about appearing townie.
They pushed dash with incredible confidence based on really shitty reasons and seemed to be happy to do so, even when people criticized/voted them for doing it. As I said before, I don’t see sth like that coming from scum often. They would have to be suicidal to intentionally push dash like that, which I think should be more likely to come from town.
Can you comment on that?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:27 pm

Flake wrote:chemist post more so i can resolve you

soon:tm:

been busy with school and other games, I'll get back to this later tonight
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:29 pm

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Idea: Don't look at your rolecard until N1

@0verki11 can I ask you to confirm that cupcake HAS ACTUALLY READ HIS ROLE-CARD?
Ask him to confirm privately or sth.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:30 pm

Someone make an ISO for Zucker
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:31 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:

I LOVE YOU

Okay, so we're still waiting on two more people, then everyone's checked in.

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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:31 pm

0verki11 wrote:Rolecards going up in about 3 hours game will start once all are sent out.
Isos here (thanks Dash2 for them)

0verki11 (H0st)
UzayAltay
Crimson97
Chemist1422
tfiosforevah
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Eragon1329
Rickdaily12
Qvapil
GrumpyGoomba
Mark Zuckerberg
Flake
Phone0Ix
ProtoZigg

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cupcakeaj2 wrote:Someone make an ISO for Zucker

It's there. Keep looking


Uh huh
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:35 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I was literally just about to bitch how he just self-metaed and you're rewarding him for doing this now

this is NAI 10000% and this response is just gross

do you think it’s scum-indicative?
Phone0Ix wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I was literally just about to bitch how he just self-metaed and you're rewarding him for doing this now

this is NAI 10000% and this response is just gross

How is self-metaing scummy, and this was the other way around o.O
Like boom townread its bad because selfmeta

The response feels natural
Rickdaily12 wrote:If you want to TR Flake, there are absolutely reasons to do it, but this isn't one of them.

Elaborate on flake, please.
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 4:37 pm

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Rolecards going up in about 3 hours game will start once all are sent out.
Isos here (thanks Dash2 for them)

0verki11 (H0st)
UzayAltay
Crimson97
Chemist1422
tfiosforevah
cupcakeaj2
Dash2
Eragon1329
Rickdaily12
Qvapil
GrumpyGoomba
Mark Zuckerberg
Flake
Phone0Ix
ProtoZigg

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Dash2 wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Someone make an ISO for Zucker

It's there. Keep looking


Uh huh

"Mark Zuckerberg"

only iso missing is ejjinami's
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:42 pm

Oh ok then

Yeah I think Zucker = alt

Also he's literally "I don't like these things but I don't want to explain why"
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:42 pm

Zucker wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:Yeah, never mind. Zucker is definitely Seth, and that all about confirms that it's the case.

I'm definitely not impressed with his handling of the game so far, then. =/


Yeah I tend to brake character... ^_^

I just play like that though.
I read until I find a post I don’t like and go off on it and accuse that person.
What’s wrong with that play?
Doesn’t mean I’m not down to vote others but Dash is definitely not Town.

wait, are you actually confident in dash being scum?

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:guys let me know when zucker isn't being useless I'm blocking him now


Isn’t it illegal to block someone participating?

No


Seriously?
That seems game throwable.

that’s most definitely not SvS
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:43 pm

Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:43 pm

Flake wrote:"Mark Zuckerberg"

only iso missing is ejjinami's

OOF :c
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:43 pm

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:44 pm

But why skip them?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:45 pm

ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.


I did.

And everybody said everything I was going to say.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 4:46 pm

Let's support more suspicious and horrible reads

To random vote or to not random vote?

/vote Uzay
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:46 pm

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Also I've been TRing Qva for a while now


Same TBH.
Although their very townie in their scum game.
I believe them to be Town this game simply because their isn’t a “Maybe or weird Puppeting”
It’s a solid opinion they are giving which I think leads to them being Town.

can you link me to that? :3
Zucker wrote:Town Reads: Qva and Uzay
Scum Reads: at least one scum in Flake, Dash and Chemist.

Elaborate an all of those, except Qva, please.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:48 pm

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.


I did.

And everybody said everything I was going to say.

what were you going to say?
which posts do you agree with?
do you have any reads???
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Let's support more suspicious and horrible reads

To random vote or to not random vote?

/vote Uzay

elaborate
and the previous question still stands, do you have any other reads?
don't just list them, say a word or 2 about each, please.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:52 pm

Dash2 wrote:Assuming the SK is dead, mafia can just as easily use their cop to narrow down who is citizen and who is not, while the vig goes and shoots whoever

PFFFFFFFFFT XD
Oh god, this is too wrong to be fake
It’s possible that dash genuinely thought about that “before getting a scum RC” and is just repeating his pre-game thoughts, but the conversation feels sooooo natural…
The slip is pretty btw
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:55 pm

tfiosforevah wrote:You can take my claim seriously, or not, either way i never know how to enter so the naturalness doesn’t really indicate my alignment lol

Who do you think is scum?
Dash2 wrote:and before you ask

tfiosforevah wrote:You can take my claim seriously, or not, either way i never know how to enter so the naturalness doesn’t really indicate my alignment lol

  • self meta
  • this kind of post doesn't make sense from town perspective
  • what even is this honestly

Elaborate on the 2-nd one, please.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 4:59 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler: Fist raised, you could cause a reaction
Ain't nobody gonna fuck with me (fuck with me)
I can tell by the way that you're acting
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya'
I mix pain with a little satisfaction
They go together all the same to be
I'm just tryna stay ahead of the action
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I smile but there's blood in my reflection
There's violence in the poetry (poetry)
When it's over, there's no resurrection
At least for you and me
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids
Today I'ma get back up
Fists raised, let's get close up
Your life won't be so rough
Get the fuck up, 'cause we've had enough
Here we lay
In our final hours, like dying flowers
The price we pay
As you struggle for power that your ego devours (ego devours)
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids


Eragon
There was some good times when You just post sth Like This as town .
But later You started to post This as every alignment
This lose their furction
So , what's The reason of keep posting these ?



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:

maybe

just maybe

because I want to post it

because its fun

?

you literally did the same thing with a picture of a cat that I posted for like, no reason
and ur like "whats the meaning with this"
>literally a cat picture

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Hahahaha, I still remember that xD
I wasn’t in the game, but oh god, my eyes nearly popped out of my head when reading it
hahahha
Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

erm... uh... well... Yes.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 5:00 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I only just realized that I can't meta read you for shit and this is our first ever game together...

Craaaaaaaaaaap. D:


imo

Ejji is really...

like bleeding towny when they are town
thats my experience in 2 of my games with them on MS

I discourage you from using that meta :/
The forums are not the same, the amount of time to write posts is not the same and the players here often make it really fucking difficult to do anything.
I have to say I feel really good about the game rn though xD
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 5:02 pm

Flake wrote:{Flake} Town
{Dash2} ++++
{} +++
{Phone0Ix} ++
{tfiosforevah, Qvapil, UzayAltay, Zucker, ejjinami} +
{Chemist1422, Eragon1329, ProtoZigg, Crimson97, cupcakeaj2, GrumpyGoomba} Null (Approximately 50% chance of scum flip)
{Rickdaily12} -
{} --
{} ---
{} ----
{} Scum

Why is Qvap lower than Phone? And elaborare on the reads on rick and Grumpy, please.

P.Edit: saw the next post…. Ok, I guess

Does that mean you want to lynch rick today? If so, why aren’t you voting him. If no, who else do you want to lynch?

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Oh ok then

Yeah I think Zucker = alt

Also he's literally "I don't like these things but I don't want to explain why"

Does that mean you’re SRing him?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby cupcakeaj2 » Mon May 13, 2019 5:02 pm

ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Assuming the SK is dead, mafia can just as easily use their cop to narrow down who is citizen and who is not, while the vig goes and shoots whoever

PFFFFFFFFFT XD
Oh god, this is too wrong to be fake
It’s possible that dash genuinely thought about that “before getting a scum RC” and is just repeating his pre-game thoughts, but the conversation feels sooooo natural…
The slip is pretty btw


Okay I hate you

I was going to say that I think Dash is Town because if he's Mafia, he can't possibly have made such an obvious mistake.


I like Uzay as well, doing a lot of explained reads and whatever you call this, it's not planning but meh:

UzayAltay wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:By the way, everyone, what do we think about the tactic of trying to avoid lynching the SK? I'm a bit torn thinking over what exactly our approach this game should be.

Like, because of the whole situation with the switches and all of the WIFOM hell, it's probably really safe to assume that Night Plans this game on our end are going to be utterly useless. We ultimately have no control over any of the night actions that get sent and that end up working, as all of that utility ultimately gets negated by the scum. So really, like, I view this game as 11 cits versus a 3v1 scum faction. The only thing really going for us is that the SK will want the Mafia as dead as badly as we do and can screw with their abilities in a way that we can't. (Like really, I'm still pretty salty that we didn't end up getting more citizens or even a role that can flip switches too.)

So, because of this, we at least have an SK that can crosskill into Mafia, and screw with their switches for as long as the Mafia remain alive. Plus, as more Mafia die, we effectively get stronger over time, since this frees more of the PRs and basically undoes a vanillasizer on the PRs. But if we lynch the SK, Scum loses a KP, but then we almost basically guarantee Scum never cross killing into each other the moment SK dies, and that could be pretty devastating, especially if multiple PRs die before hitting ever hitting Mafia.

Is it also in the better interest of the SK if they try to help us get a few Cop checks to work? They can't outright murder the Town if Mafia remains at full power, so if they did everything in their power to help us find associations between mafia, it's in all of our benefit, right?

Basically I'm unsure how Town wins without us getting lucky on the Vig or without SK helping us kill at least one of the Mafia. Is anyone else familiar with this setup?

We Obviously need Every scum lynch , but I Will prefer SK Dead over mafia .Why ? Let's compare with A Day 1 SK lynch with Day 1 Maf lynch
1) Tomorrow 10v3 versus 9v2v1
2) With SK lynch , Mafia has to free one of PRs . With All Mafia's have 3-shot , We Will be abi to use some PRs before it votes to end at worse situation ( assumation : We couldnt be able to lynch Maf for A while , Maf couldnt be able to kill our PRs )
With Maf lynch , SK can lock The PR We lynched from Mafia for A long time , and with 2 KPN , time wents stronger, and working faster against us.

Another thing I discovered is We can start using our Roles effectively when We Kill 2 scum . And Killing SK early is Actually Giving us More chance to kill A Mafia due less Dead town per Day , I think. Even it removes The possibility SK Killing Mafia .


Yeah, I voted him. Don't ask.

Qvapil wrote:I'm trying to learn from my last game, and I think it's more telling to look at those who capitalise on others' questionable plays rather than those who misplay. That's why I'm against voting dash.


What. When did Dash capitalise, what. And that isn't a perfect science either.

Phone0Ix wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I'm really unsure about Chemist and Phone so far. I want to like Phone in particular as I agree with him a lot already, but I don't remember this much confidence coming from him in my games with him where he was Town. Chemist feels a bit pensive too, but sure, I can buy his school excuse. I just expect him to chime in with more meta reading than only Zucker.

I like Flake's defense of tfios. I don't know if I agree with him about her, but I do really like how he's been approaching the issue.

Did I sound confident? That's new


Phone0Ix wrote:Also how did get Dash and Chemist a townread on me from that less posts?


Oh cool. Most scum ignore posts that say they seem townie. I also like the self reflection.

The rest is just an argument over Dash's failure or people half-memeing or people explaining rules. Not much that stands out there. I also don't have much time left.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 13, 2019 5:05 pm

ok. I don't have much time left either

can you tell me what you think about grumpy? and why did you vote uzay if you're TRing him?
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