Assailant

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Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:12 am

Assailant

Alignment: Neutral Killing

Biography: You are a trained silent
Assailant who kills in the shadows and kills anyone who is a threat towards them.

Attack: Unstoppable
Defence: Basic

Abilities:
Each night you may mark someone
You can mark someone multiple times

Attributes:
Marking someone is Astral Visiting
If your roleblocked you will mark your Roleblocker
If a player votes for a player who is marked, the player who voted for them will get killed by the Assailant right there during the day and that mark will go away.
The attack is Unstoppable.
Once you die, all marks will disappear
If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!
You may not mark yourself Night 1.

Goal: Neutral Killing Win Con
Last edited by Seththeking on Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:58 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Brilliand » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:28 pm

He can't mark himself or kill himself, right?

While he sounds scary, I'm pretty sure his ability will herd the town right into lynching him. They're not going to vote a player who previously had a mark set off, and that will quickly force them to catch the Assailant by process of elimination.

This role will also encourage weird habits like expendable players voting every other player to check for marks. :p
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Brilliand wrote:He can't mark himself or kill himself, right?

While he sounds scary, I'm pretty sure his ability will herd the town right into lynching him. They're not going to vote a player who previously had a mark set off, and that will quickly force them to catch the Assailant by process of elimination.

This role will also encourage weird habits like expendable players voting every other player to check for marks. :p


He can mark and kill himself (don’t know why he would want to kill himself though)
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:07 pm

Keep in mind, Marks can stack.

He can pick the same target 3 nights in a row.

An example of how this role works is let’s say you Target Bob.
Carly Votes Bob the next day.
Carly Dies by Assailant! 1 Mark Is moved from Bob.

Also I may make it so if they mark themselves they lose their basic defence to avoid them being a Day Tank.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:44 am

Could I have some more feedback please! :)
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:20 pm

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Re: Assailant

Postby Brilliand » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Yeah, stacking self-marks might be rather overpowered. He hides like an Arsonist, and eventually becomes unlynchable. Losing basic defense doesn't help if the Mafia is losing and there's no Vigilante.

On the other hand, this role can easily be forced into a draw when he would otherwise win. If everyone simply refrains from voting, then the Assailant can't kill anyone, and so can't complete his goal.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Google » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:57 pm

Brilliand wrote:Yeah, stacking self-marks might be rather overpowered. He hides like an Arsonist, and eventually becomes unlynchable. Losing basic defense doesn't help if the Mafia is losing and there's no Vigilante.

On the other hand, this role can easily be forced into a draw when he would otherwise win. If everyone simply refrains from voting, then the Assailant can't kill anyone, and so can't complete his goal.

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Brilliand » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:50 pm

Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:20 am

Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!
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Re: Assailant

Postby Google » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:36 am

Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:40 am

Google wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game


But this isn’t Arsonist/Hex Master this is Assailant.
Also I don’t like the only one mark on Self.
Maybe some other kind of nerf? I don’t know I’ll think about it.
I do have a Discord Server so I can just test it on there.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Google » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:04 pm

Seththeking wrote:
Google wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game


But this isn’t Arsonist/Hex Master this is Assailant.
Also I don’t like the only one mark on Self.
Maybe some other kind of nerf? I don’t know I’ll think about it.
I do have a Discord Server so I can just test it on there.

1.who cares that it isn't arsonist or hex master, this is better than deciding if no one voted yesterday you get a dayshot
2.Being able to just stack marks on yourself is too op
3.stop telling everybody about your discord server I hear it too much
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Re: Assailant

Postby Brilliand » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:20 pm

I kinda want the marked players to die off one at a time.

How about: Each mark only lasts for up to 3 days. When any player other than the Assailant stays marked for 3 days, they're killed in the night (Unstoppable attack).

This makes it only possible to have up to 3 self-marks at the time.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Google » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:10 pm

Brilliand wrote:I kinda want the marked players to die off one at a time.

How about: Each mark only lasts for up to 3 days. When any player other than the Assailant stays marked for 3 days, they're killed in the night (Unstoppable attack).

This makes it only possible to have up to 3 self-marks at the time.

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Re: Assailant

Postby Brilliand » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:17 pm

There's also the option of making this role into a Coven role. Unreliable kill methods are kind of the Coven's thing.
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Re: Assailant

Postby Seththeking » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:57 pm

IMO.
If it gets to the point where you have yourself marked so much you win then you should win.
I’ll edit it so you can’t mark yourself Night 1.
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