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James2 wrote:The problem will only get worse as the playerbase goes from college to the workforce, and in a few years the bulk of our players will start to form families, at which point ToS FM will die.
Flake wrote:so what im getting from this is
almost all FM players (who don't have coven) are forced to get coven in order to play some FM games
thus far less incentive for the current FM player base to play such FM games
all so that some coven players can feel more special in having access to such FM games which they already would have had anyway without the restriction
the only real positives that come about from this is devs have an excuse to earn money (which doesn't help anyone but the devs) and there is an incentive for devs to advertise FM (which may attract some new players, but also deters the active player base in some respects)
in every other respect it's a pretty stupid idea; it's especially punishing to the current active FM player base
ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:dude just place ads on the page
don't make them intrusive and a good way to retain players is to actually make good players because a lot people just migrate to MU which is totally justifiable, only reason i havent is because they're hyper active and i can barely keep up
Kmenx wrote:ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:dude just place ads on the page
don't make them intrusive and a good way to retain players is to actually make good players because a lot people just migrate to MU which is totally justifiable, only reason i havent is because they're hyper active and i can barely keep up
FM ad campaign let's go
James2 wrote:Of course if the devs would advertise FM in-game in exchange for us simply having ads in this section, that would be better.
Chemist1422 wrote:James2 wrote:Of course if the devs would advertise FM in-game in exchange for us simply having ads in this section, that would be better.
So why can't we just do that?
Helicooler wrote:Chemist1422 wrote:James2 wrote:Of course if the devs would advertise FM in-game in exchange for us simply having ads in this section, that would be better.
So why can't we just do that?
ah, I see you havent heard of the dev's religion known as unity. Basically, unity is first.
Chemist1422 wrote:James2 wrote:Of course if the devs would advertise FM in-game in exchange for us simply having ads in this section, that would be better.
So why can't we just do that?
ElderSivart wrote:Helicooler wrote:Chemist1422 wrote:James2 wrote:Of course if the devs would advertise FM in-game in exchange for us simply having ads in this section, that would be better.
So why can't we just do that?
ah, I see you havent heard of the dev's religion known as unity. Basically, unity is first.
I mean they are kinda on a time limit to finish the Unity client before it's literally impossible to play ToS Flash through any browser that receives updates.
CharaTheFallen wrote:mouse212 wrote:also episodes will become trash if only coven users can play them.
episodes are already trash
James2 wrote:For the last few years, ToS FM's playerbase has been in decline. This is largely for demographic reasons (a substantial portion of our players were teenagers who have since gone to college). In a few months we'll transition to a new forum which will cause a lot of players to become less active. The problem will only get worse as the playerbase goes from college to the workforce, and in a few years the bulk of our players will start to form families, at which point ToS FM will die.
In order to reverse this trend, it is necessary to recruit new players. At present, there is only one viable source of new players available to us, ToS itself.
Even with the move to pay-to-play, there are still tens of thousands of people who play ToS. If we could grab even one percent of them we'd rival MU and MS. And it would be trivially easy for the devs to add "Want to play the legendary long form of Town of Salem? Check out the Forum Mafia section of our forums!" as one of those rotating tips that show before games. It would be highly visible and in a space not allocated for commercial advertising.
Now I know the response of course. BMG is a business and has no reason to advertise a non-profitable section of its forums. Well, let's give them a reason. There are a number of tacky things we could do in exchange for advertising. Here are a few examples:
Restrict Episodes to Coven owners
Restrict games with certain experimental roles in them to Coven users
Offer paid spectating
All of these things would be tolerable annoyances (for us) that would make advertising FM a better deal (for BMG) than telling people what jesters are. The FMods should immediately enter into discussions with the devs regarding an agreement of this sort. As an added benefit, if there were even a slight profit to be made from FM, it would drastically improve the odds of the devs not mass deleting FM during the forum switch.
With all that said, we should never implement scrolls, taunts, or any other system which would make the game even indirectly pay-to-win.
TheDebil wrote:if you have friends force them to come here in exchange for your friends
TheDebil wrote:if you have friends force them to come here in exchange for your friends
Varanus wrote:We could expand our playerbase by 1 by unblacklisting James
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