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MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby BeckaBoss10 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Mafia is very complicated in ToS. But the two most helpful roles in the mafia faction are consig and Forger. I will give instructions to make sure that you survive with these roles.


If you are consig: Make sure you investigate a player every single night. If you find something important, share it to the mafia chat as soon as possible. Telling people a role of someone in lab chat can seriously up your game. Mafia killing can kill the role if needed, and Forger can make REALLY decent evidence for the will to give your mafia a leg up. The framer can also help pit the town against each other if they know who to sabatoge.


If you are Forger: Always ask the consig (if you have one) for info. If you get info from the consig, you can be very manipulative with your information. You can also just say in the will something like "THIS WILL IS FORGED" because the town still won't get any real information.

If you are NOT consig or forger: Always rely on your other mafia members if you want to manipulate. Keep an eye on chat all all times, day or night. The mafia will listen to you if you look well enough to find information. Like the forger, ALWAYS ask for information from your mafia members.
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Marmalaid274 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:34 pm

if you think forger and consig are the two best roles for mafia, then i wont even bother reading the rest
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Bluedetroyer » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:45 pm

Marmalaid274 wrote:if you think forger and consig are the two best roles for mafia, then i wont even bother reading the rest

I mean consig can be pretty good, but forger?
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Helicooler » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:03 am

disg and forg a much better when there is a consig tho. Disg without a consig is much less useful, especially in gamemodes like all any or custom games with alot of claim space.
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby fwogcarf » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:54 pm

Forger's good if you know how to play it.
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Helicooler » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:07 pm

Unless the will gets called out and double confirmation etc
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby kyuss420 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:58 am

Consig and forger are handy in a passive town that doesnt speak, but if someone is posting their will every day, forger is as useless as a framer in a town with no sheriff.

Also, no point posting ''This will is forged''. Confirming a forger may just stop town mislynching an escort, as consort isnt possible if RM was forger
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby WhiteGoblin222 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:25 am

kyuss420 wrote:Consig and forger are handy in a passive town that doesnt speak, but if someone is posting their will every day, forger is as useless as a framer in a town with no sheriff.

Also, no point posting ''This will is forged''. Confirming a forger may just stop town mislynching an escort, as consort isnt possible if RM was forger


Blank wills are best. Especially if the player has been especially quiet. It makes them look afk. Consig is pretty powerful when used correctly.
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby vsefotonz » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:19 am

Thanks for the tips
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby kyuss420 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:39 am

WhiteGoblin222 wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:Consig and forger are handy in a passive town that doesnt speak, but if someone is posting their will every day, forger is as useless as a framer in a town with no sheriff.

Also, no point posting ''This will is forged''. Confirming a forger may just stop town mislynching an escort, as consort isnt possible if RM was forger


Blank wills are best. Especially if the player has been especially quiet. It makes them look afk. Consig is pretty powerful when used correctly.



Well, if you know someones role, like a sherrif, if youre fast enough you can always fake their will so that it looks like they checked mafia in the first few nights and they came up inno, can take the sus off of you for a few nights
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Kombinator1991 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:56 am

Helicooler wrote:disg and forg a much better when there is a consig tho. Disg without a consig is much less useful, especially in gamemodes like all any or custom games with alot of claim space.


Disg is worthless in current method. It only takes the role, if dies. If not dies, then invests, and sheriffs see the disguiser. Really rare, that they manage to get stuff done.

Forger is tricky to use, but a skilled person can make town really throw off. Most townie doesn't bother to share results all night nor to read back chat. If a revealed sheriff has an n1 sus., but not called out it doesn't matter. Town hangs it.

Consig+Forger are great combo to create really faker wills.

I just played a game where i managed to hang 2 townies as framer. 1. was sheriff calling out framed person. 2. was me calling out someone as framer/framed. (i did framed him by the way)

The main problem with the game lately is that everyone thinks, that town is unbeatable, and we get tons of leavers from evils, and even more weak evils. I see damn often, that maf. gets executed on n2, or n3 with 0 evidence. I would bet, that they didn't even tried.
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby jucktropy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:21 am

If there is lookout in your game you can simply use forger as TP CC On jailor if also he was doused by arsonist you can take adv to clean their will But be aware in spy game don't use forger For This start cause it will conf more towny to spy, but anyway forger is useless what you want do with it :/
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby BasicFourLife » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:33 am

Marmalaid274 wrote:if you think forger and consig are the two best roles for mafia, then i wont even bother reading the rest

this

consig is just a role for players who are too dumb to figure out everyone's roles on their own and forger does nothing.

both have no uses for good Mafia players, maybe consig for like the first two nights or in closed games but thats about it
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby fwogcarf » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:34 pm

BasicFourLife wrote:
Marmalaid274 wrote:if you think forger and consig are the two best roles for mafia, then i wont even bother reading the rest

this

consig is just a role for players who are too dumb to figure out everyone's roles on their own and forger does nothing.

both have no uses for good Mafia players, maybe consig for like the first two nights or in closed games but thats about it

looks like youve never played either of those roles
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Helicooler » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:51 pm

consig its hidden, hidden is like this
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby Anyar » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:08 am

BeckaBoss10 wrote:If you are Forger: Always ask the consig (if you have one) for info. If you get info from the consig, you can be very manipulative with your information. You can also just say in the will something like "THIS WILL IS FORGED" because the town still won't get any real information.


On the contrary, never say "THIS WILL IS FORGED" because you're telling town there's a forger.

Even if you have no info, a fake will like "i hate this role" or just no will at all is better than revealing a random mafia.

And if you DO know the person's role, you better make that fake will (and hopefully call out a random townie as evil).
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Re: MAFIA MEMBER TIPS: Consig and Forger's Best Advantages

Postby XxCottonCandyxX » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:00 am

Adding onto this, another tip is that if mafia killing is jailed and there's no other mafia killing left, or you want to frame someone, have mafia killing not visit and the consig/forger visit the same person. This only works with active spy and no lo on that person btw. That way it looks like that person is night immune. If they're an easy to prove role (e.g. mayor, jailor) then it's useless but sometimes that does throw suspicion on them and keep it of you for one more day, and if it's ahard role to claim (e.g. ret, doc, sheriff) and town's desperate they might just lynch them. In one game where I was town, maf was pretending to be spy and maf!spy said that x player was visited twice that night. People were quick to lynch x player (i can't remember the role nor claim, though it wasnt mayor or jailor but it wasnt a scummy claim) and we lost that game. After we lost maf!spy said that they made up the 2x visit on purpose to fool town.
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