JacksonVirgo wrote:Jackparrot wrote:Yeah it does combine forg and disg, now that I realize. However, I believe this is a good thing as disg and forg are both very weak roles on their own, however if they are combined, they are a lot stronger. I disagree that this role is situational, it’s uses are broad enough so that it is useful every game. Also, some other roles (framer for example) are situational.
So are you saying you would remove Disguiser and Forger completely from the game an then add this? Honestly to me it seems really situational and if you give me an example/s or why it isn't that'd be cool but Framer and Disguiser are both situational and a combination of them would be as well without a lot of other modification. Because the only use this role would have is to confuse town by swapping two roles and by giving mafia claim space for a few days until town figures out what the hell happened.
Questions tho:
Does this role know who the roles which are swapped?
Do the swapped people know the other persons will?
How long do the swaps last?
How would the wills work if the swaps can last multiple nights?
Because if this role knows who they swapped (like the CL) it would also combine the Consigliere which is probably a bad idea but without that it is situational again where you need a consigliere or a 'confirmed' town which probably are being checked by the LO to swap and in that, it isn't a very good role. If you disagree lemme know
I don’t think this role is situational, as it is
always useful to mess with the claim space (in ranked). Since the magician can swap people’s will multiple times, they can make it so that it appears there is no TI slots left. Also, by swapping with unique roles, the unique role is much more likely to get lynched.
To answer your questions:
1. They don’t know. (Unless the person claimed of course)
2. They do not know they were swapped, so they do not know the other persons will.
3. Swaps last that night only.
4. See #3
Mace8937 wrote:This would bring back the old Disguiser Meta of putting your IGN in your will so if this did happen to you, you would confirm there is a Magician.
Basically pointless if the Meta is brought back like that (which it will be) so honestly this role doesn't really stop any information from leaking or even really support anything.
Imma go with a fat no
Your right, this could become quite problematic. If we allowed the magician to forge wills, I believe this could help. Do you think it is a good idea?
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