Jezz92 wrote:I still think noping’s hammer vote was an accident coming from town rather than an “accident” planned by scum
Idk
Hopefully this game is just solved with tfios/phone so I don’t kill my brain
Yeah I mean if chemist wagon was pure that’s basically what’s it’s gonna be from my POV I think But people still think someone bussed chemist so I’m waiting for actual reasons for uzay/eragon/noping to be bussing scum other than “day ended early asdfasdf”
Nopingout wrote:chemist did not touch tfios at all
idk but tfios has been pretty...forgettable in regards of posts. i know they say they're experimenting with playstyle, but as I said before 'is prodging a playstyle'
If prodging isnt a playstyle, Idk what is.
Is it possible that Chemist was avoiding tfios perhaps unconsciously due to speaking to them in a day chat?
Though, that said:
Chemist1422 wrote:@tfios What pushes so far have been town motivated, and which ones have been scum motivated?
This is the one post where Chem acknowledged tfios other than his reads
Nopingout wrote:chemist did not touch tfios at all
idk but tfios has been pretty...forgettable in regards of posts. i know they say they're experimenting with playstyle, but as I said before 'is prodging a playstyle'
To be fair people aren’t typically active when I can be, sometimes there’s hours after one of my posts before someone gives any new information
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tfios you don't have to wait on other people to comment/ask questions before you post things
i mean you could elaborate on your uzay and eragon reads a little more esp eragon because you said you thought he was townie day 1. What changed with that? Also what happened to your gut scum read on noping, do you still have it or has it changed?
Jezz92 wrote:Do you think there was scum bussing chemist yesterday? What do you think of chemist's push on mario now that chemist flipped scum?
I don’t like how early the day ended, I believe scum had to do with that. One of them must have been close to a slip or something, so they wanted to end the towns discussion as soon as possible. Out of the people bussing chemist, my guess is to say that eragon and uzay are more likely scum than the others. As for Mario, I still feel uneasy about them, but chemist’s push made Mario look better in my view
Well scum did have something to do with it since chemist self-voted Why those two over noping? what happened to your gut scum read on noping you had on day 1?
I'm never great with reads on day 1 in general, and I couldn't find anything scummy about noping in their day 2 or 3 posts, and nobody else has said anything noteworthy accusing noping yet, so they're back in my town radar.
Jezz92 wrote:tfios you don't have to wait on other people to comment/ask questions before you post things
i mean you could elaborate on your uzay and eragon reads a little more esp eragon because you said you thought he was townie day 1. What changed with that? Also what happened to your gut scum read on noping, do you still have it or has it changed?
read above about noping, i thought i posted it earlier but apparently i only hit preview
tfiosforevah wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote: Why me Uzay over the others?
For you, it’s just a gut feeling combined with the entire feel of the game in general, for uzay it’s more of the post content seeming... off? I guess that’s how one could explain it
to elaborate on above, i might be influenced on other people's reads of eragon and that could be why i'm leaning scum, but other than that i really don't have much to say. for uzay, i feel like they're asking the wrong questions at the wrong times, and it could be a disguise of someone seeming like they're interested in finding scum whereas they're actually scum themselves. idk, could just be me overanalyzing
Chemist1422 wrote:I may or may not have forgotten I was in this game
Can't get a read on juck because I can't understand his posts
Phone seems weirdly fluffy so far
/vote Phone0Ix
Chemist1422 wrote:Actually I checked ISOs
Uzay has actually done very little as well
I would lynch either
This is kinda weird to me tbh, not too sure what to make of it. Again, I feel like only one of these could be scum if any because bussing both your buddies day 1 is just ?????
But notice how chemist seemed to know enough about phone to make the “phone seems fluffy so far” judgement on him, yet had to add “I checked ISO’s” before stating that uzay hadn’t done much?
I mean is the awareness of phone’s activity combined with the lack of awareness of uzay’s activity telling here? What does scum!chemist gain by adding uzay to his lynch options here? Or is this another one of those “well chemist was scum so he probably didn’t care what he posted all game” situations?
In theory chemist’s push on Mario could have been distancing because his logic was awful and unable to be ignored
idk it still seemed at little opportunistic though?
Well anyway {Mario/uzay/phone} likely only has one scum at most in it, I feel like if chemist was gonna distance here it would be one of the earlier pushes and then he just grabs the opportunity to jump onto Mario He also told noping and eragon to join him on the mario wagon
I mean yeah he’d get towncred if Mario actually was lynched day 1 and flipped scum, but doesn’t seem worth it doing it so early, imo it would make more sense to just be like “well yeah that was really bad from Mario but I still think uzay/phone are worse” or something like that.
Him jumping onto crimson wagon was just a buddy attempt on me imo, and also to make it look like he’s town by being cooperative and participating in the main wagon that the active people at the time all agreed on, the fact that Mario ended up on the wagon as well doesn’t really mean anything in terms of whether chemist/mario is TvS or SvS.
Nopingout wrote:mario has been pretty inactive since day 2 lynch
maybe he has taken a backseat because scum pushing him looks good for mario but it was bussing :MegaThink:
Maybe I'm a dreamer Maybe I'm misunderstood Maybe you're not seeing the side of me you should Maybe I'm crazy (Maybe I'm crazy) Maybe I'm the only one (Maybe I'm the only one) Maybe I'm just out of touch Maybe I've just had enough Maybe it's time to change And leave it all behind I've never been one to walk alone I've always been scared to try So why does it feel so wrong To reach for something more To wanna live a better life What am I waiting for? 'Cause nothing stays the same Maybe it's time to change Maybe it's hopeless (Maybe it's hopeless) Maybe I should just give up (Maybe I should just give up) What if I can't trust myself? What if I just need some help? Maybe it's time to change And leave it all behind I've never been one to walk alone I've always…
if uzay was scum on the chemist wagon with the other scum not voting, i feel like he wouldn't have preempted soul tracking him last night and therefore he would have been the one who performed the kill thoughts on this?
like, i don't really think it crosses scum's mind "oh but tracker could have thought chemist was bussed so I'll just stay home and let the non-voter kill" in the scenario of "one scum voting, one scum not voting" i feel like scum would be more likely to send the voter out while assuming tracker targets one of the non-voters
this is a very WIFOM-y speculation here tbh but i want feedback on it anyway
if uzay was scum on the chemist wagon with the other scum not voting, i feel like he wouldn't have preempted soul tracking him last night and therefore he would have been the one who performed the kill thoughts on this?
like, i don't really think it crosses scum's mind "oh but tracker could have thought chemist was bussed so I'll just stay home and let the non-voter kill" in the scenario of "one scum voting, one scum not voting" i feel like scum would be more likely to send the voter out while assuming tracker targets one of the non-voters
this is a very WIFOM-y speculation here tbh but i want feedback on it anyway
I don’t disagree, and I think uzay is town for other reasons as well.
I’m not quoting the post becuase I’m a lazy shit, but in Tfios’s post with 3 quotes or whatever,
The first one is basically saying “I’m ignoring what I fet day 1, and becuase I don’t see anything scummy from noping and becuase no one else scumreads noping I think they are town”
It’s mainly that last part hat bothers me “No one else has given good accusations, so they are probably town”
FM isnt about waiting for other people, your supposed to look through their posts and see if there’s anything bad.
The third one, he says he may be influenced by other peope’s Reads on me, but he has me as scum? I think the majority of people townread me(at least slightly) so I don’t see where he gets that? It feels like really bad justification. Basically calls uzay LAMIST(not using the term but expressing the motive)
And the readlist has uzay/me as the top 2 scum candidates why? Do you actually think that scum would have all 3 members pushing Jucktropy, knowing that he was bodydouble? And do you actually believe that all 3 scum were on Chemist? and that Ph0ne is town?
Eragon1329 wrote:I’m not quoting the post becuase I’m a lazy shit, but in Tfios’s post with 3 quotes or whatever,
The first one is basically saying “I’m ignoring what I fet day 1, and becuase I don’t see anything scummy from noping and becuase no one else scumreads noping I think they are town”
It’s mainly that last part hat bothers me “No one else has given good accusations, so they are probably town”
FM isnt about waiting for other people, your supposed to look through their posts and see if there’s anything bad.
Again, currently working on my reading skills. Noping hasn't given me any reason to believe they're scum since I had the initial read, and I don't trust my day 1 reads anyways since theres no deaths/flips vs. previous day pushes to go off on. The only scummy thing that noping has done was "accidentally" hammering chemist but whether that was actually an accident by a townie or a planned "accident" by scum is yet to be found out.
Eragon1329 wrote:The third one, he says he may be influenced by other peope’s Reads on me, but he has me as scum? I think the majority of people townread me(at least slightly) so I don’t see where he gets that? It feels like really bad justification.
Should've explained more, I meant you were in other's scum pools to pick from, even if you were mainly town read.
Eragon1329 wrote:Basically calls uzay LAMIST(not using the term but expressing the motive) And the readlist has uzay/me as the top 2 scum candidates why? Do you actually think that scum would have all 3 members pushing Jucktropy, knowing that he was bodydouble? And do you actually believe that all 3 scum were on Chemist? and that Ph0ne is town?
I'm getting a strong scum vibe from uzay, and i highly doubt anything will change my mind on this one (uzay, any sort of defense?) I don't necessarily believe that all three scum were pushing juck or voting chemist, but when people were asking out of the voting pool who seemed like the most scum, you stood out to me. In the case of phone, I do see why people believe they are scum. I didn't get a gut scum read, but now going back through the ISO's it does seem like they aren't really expressing as much opinions as they could be. Phone, do you have any opinions right now? Any comments, defense? (You're almost due for a prod... )
After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings {Takumi, Soul}- strong town {Jezz}- slight town {Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times {Uzay}- strong scum
/vote Uzay
That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today
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Jezz92 wrote:I still think noping’s hammer vote was an accident coming from town rather than an “accident” planned by scum
Idk
Hopefully this game is just solved with tfios/phone so I don’t kill my brain
It is possible , but my mind keep saying " This cant be This easy " . I believe in my PoE which I Said before , 1 from below and 1 from up , rather Than 2 from below , but it is Also possible It is This easy .
Nopingout wrote:chemist did not touch tfios at all
idk but tfios has been pretty...forgettable in regards of posts. i know they say they're experimenting with playstyle, but as I said before 'is prodging a playstyle'
If prodging isnt a playstyle, Idk what is.
Is it possible that Chemist was avoiding tfios perhaps unconsciously due to speaking to them in a day chat?
Though, that said:
Chemist1422 wrote:@tfios What pushes so far have been town motivated, and which ones have been scum motivated?
This is the one post where Chem acknowledged tfios other than his reads
Just asking Because , I am not remembering , Did Chemist even interacted with Phone ? Actually , Looking who Chem interacted and who isnt could be Interesting . And We should Also look The reverse , who interacted with Chem , who isnt .
to elaborate on above, i might be influenced on other people's reads of eragon and that could be why i'm leaning scum, but other than that i really don't have much to say. for uzay, i feel like they're asking the wrong questions at the wrong times, and it could be a disguise of someone seeming like they're interested in finding scum whereas they're actually scum themselves. idk, could just be me overanalyzing
Can You give examples " asking wrong questions at wrong times ? " You asked for defense at later , but in really , Unless You give examples , I hope You Dont Wait me Explaining every single post of Mine from my ISO , right ? This would be just A huge time waste for me .
Nopingout wrote:chemist did not touch tfios at all
idk but tfios has been pretty...forgettable in regards of posts. i know they say they're experimenting with playstyle, but as I said before 'is prodging a playstyle'
If prodging isnt a playstyle, Idk what is.
Is it possible that Chemist was avoiding tfios perhaps unconsciously due to speaking to them in a day chat?
Though, that said:
Chemist1422 wrote:@tfios What pushes so far have been town motivated, and which ones have been scum motivated?
PS - I am dumb for not realizing The example above about Phone .
This is the one post where Chem acknowledged tfios other than his reads
Just asking Because , I am not remembering , Did Chemist even interacted with Phone ? Actually , Looking who Chem interacted and who isnt could be Interesting . And We should Also look The reverse , who interacted with Chem , who isnt .
Eragon1329 wrote:I’m not quoting the post becuase I’m a lazy shit, but in Tfios’s post with 3 quotes or whatever,
The first one is basically saying “I’m ignoring what I fet day 1, and becuase I don’t see anything scummy from noping and becuase no one else scumreads noping I think they are town”
It’s mainly that last part hat bothers me “No one else has given good accusations, so they are probably town”
FM isnt about waiting for other people, your supposed to look through their posts and see if there’s anything bad.
Again, currently working on my reading skills. Noping hasn't given me any reason to believe they're scum since I had the initial read, and I don't trust my day 1 reads anyways since theres no deaths/flips vs. previous day pushes to go off on. The only scummy thing that noping has done was "accidentally" hammering chemist but whether that was actually an accident by a townie or a planned "accident" by scum is yet to be found out.
Eragon1329 wrote:The third one, he says he may be influenced by other peope’s Reads on me, but he has me as scum? I think the majority of people townread me(at least slightly) so I don’t see where he gets that? It feels like really bad justification.
Should've explained more, I meant you were in other's scum pools to pick from, even if you were mainly town read.
Eragon1329 wrote:Basically calls uzay LAMIST(not using the term but expressing the motive) And the readlist has uzay/me as the top 2 scum candidates why? Do you actually think that scum would have all 3 members pushing Jucktropy, knowing that he was bodydouble? And do you actually believe that all 3 scum were on Chemist? and that Ph0ne is town?
I'm getting a strong scum vibe from uzay, and i highly doubt anything will change my mind on this one (uzay, any sort of defense?) I don't necessarily believe that all three scum were pushing juck or voting chemist, but when people were asking out of the voting pool who seemed like the most scum, you stood out to me. In the case of phone, I do see why people believe they are scum. I didn't get a gut scum read, but now going back through the ISO's it does seem like they aren't really expressing as much opinions as they could be. Phone, do you have any opinions right now? Any comments, defense? (You're almost due for a prod... )
After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings {Takumi, Soul}- strong town {Jezz}- slight town {Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times {Uzay}- strong scum
/vote Uzay
That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today
2) If Eragon is other person's scumpool , Do You have to "pick " it ?Definitely no .
3) So You changed 3 person on your read-list With A single question ? And from You adding Noping , Phone , and Mario ( especially Because of You added Mario ) , I am getting " Lets add This people , too , I can still push for Eragon without questioned Because of my reads " vibe . Or Maybe could wrong term , but , pushing for an agenda ? Anyways , If term is wrong , I made explanation What I meant .
UzayAltay wrote:Just asking Because , I am not remembering , Did Chemist even interacted with Phone ? Actually , Looking who Chem interacted and who isnt could be Interesting . And We should Also look The reverse , who interacted with Chem , who isnt .
chemist didn't interact with phone other than the early push on him day 1 iirc