sportakus1 wrote:This is basically a escort + mafioso. Idea is not bad, tho the target shouldnt be roleblocked. If oyu want riddler to rolelbock people, then he shouldnt commit suicide as the townie that guesses Riddler´s number will know who to get then.
Basically. Something. You get my gist.
Helicooler wrote:I feel like the chance should be increased by ~3-5% and it should be you find their identity instead of them dying.
On the other hand, I think this is actually quite a good idea.
TheDebil wrote:i think this should be a neutral chaos instead of mafia, and make his win scenario to kill 3 players.
MegaLT wrote:Veteran is immune to roleblock anyways, so even if it has roleblock or not, it still kills the veteran, I dont find roleblock nessesary thought....
I also dont think that it should die after being revealed, after all, town would know him.... because if player randomly guesses it would be big blow to mafia seeing maf members die so early..
ICECLIMBERS wrote:Stop acting like a ringleader bigot, goose.
Gooose26 wrote:While you could discuss the problems with the guessing mechanic, I would like to focus on the RNG factor in this role. What this does is provide swing thst is not dependent on skill. It is not fair to somebody who does really well to be killed for guessing right the second time the exact opposite is true for somebody who survives without getting it right until the second to last guess. The RNG mechanic needs to be removed.
You can also discuss the power of this role. If somebody guesses the right player correctly, the Riddle dies. This means that it is not near as powerful as the Mafioso, who consistently kills somebody each night. Mafioso on all levels is a stronger role than the Riddler, and therefore the Riddler is weak. It is important to balance each role equally to prevent swing being introduced in the rolelist.
EgyptFalcon wrote:Gooose26 wrote:While you could discuss the problems with the guessing mechanic, I would like to focus on the RNG factor in this role. What this does is provide swing thst is not dependent on skill. It is not fair to somebody who does really well to be killed for guessing right the second time the exact opposite is true for somebody who survives without getting it right until the second to last guess. The RNG mechanic needs to be removed.
You can also discuss the power of this role. If somebody guesses the right player correctly, the Riddle dies. This means that it is not near as powerful as the Mafioso, who consistently kills somebody each night. Mafioso on all levels is a stronger role than the Riddler, and therefore the Riddler is weak. It is important to balance each role equally to prevent swing being introduced in the rolelist.
But Mafioso and Godfather can only get one kill between the two of them... the Riddler kills independently of the Godfather.
Although there is some RNG in this role it is much more about mind games. There is absolutely skill involved in determining roles -- which is exactly what Riddler forces you to do. You probably don't want to Riddle investigative as they might have more information on who you might be. The person being targeted has to try to scum read and put all the info they have together. Also I'm very confused by your wording. "It is not fair to somebody who does really well to be killed for guessing right the second time the exact opposite is true for somebody who survives without getting it right until the second to last guess." What?
ICECLIMBERS wrote:Stop acting like a ringleader bigot, goose.
EgyptFalcon wrote:MegaLT wrote:Veteran is immune to roleblock anyways, so even if it has roleblock or not, it still kills the veteran, I dont find roleblock nessesary thought....
I also dont think that it should die after being revealed, after all, town would know him.... because if player randomly guesses it would be big blow to mafia seeing maf members die so early..
Veteran can't alert when pirated. The roleblock is the same as the pirate's roleblock.
I wanted compensation for him being an independent Mafia killer. I suppose learning his identity is the same punishment Ambusher gets...
EgyptFalcon wrote: - If the target guesses incorrectly, they will be attacked (basic) and if they die their will is wiped (to prevent recording who they guessed)
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