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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby FirstToGetThisName » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:12 pm

By the way, anyone agree with me that the roleblock on Chubby is a red herring? I'm guessing it was to solidify Chemist's Sheriff claim.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:16 pm

FirstToGetThisName wrote:
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Eragon1329 wrote:I want everyone to read my ISO and give me your thoughts in if I’m town or scum

This will help me get a read on you by learning your playstyle, seeing how you act around more experienced players, and whether or not you can make a natural read on someone.


repeating this

Well, regarding the reads you've given when you replaced in, they did seem to make sense. However, you did mention that you play seriously regardless of alignment, and in addition, I'm not sure whether I pay that much attention to intent behind each read given, only if they seem illogical or in any way misleading.

On a side note, Mario, do you know how to scumread people?



FirstToGetThisName wrote:Now that I think about it, given that Eragon asked us to check his ISO and give reads on him, if he's mafia, either he's confident that he hasn't made a screwup yet, or he thinks that at present he'd appear relatively more town than he would later, and intends to cash in on that fact by making us check now, so that we'd pay less attention later.
The former doesn't seem too believable, the latter does. However, I'd say that the former has to be true to some extent for him to be doing this as mafia, so at present I have a town lean on him...



these are 2 of the posts he made when I asked everyone to make a case on me, and just read them

"regarding the reads you made they make sense" - something good but not AI
"you did mention you play seriously regardless of alignment" - he has doubts
"im not sure if the reads are illogical, I just made sure they were ok" - no meaning to it
"now that I think about it, if hes mafia, hes confident that he hasn't made a screwup yet... pay less attention later" - doubting me and then says the latter is more likely to be true which would be a bad thing, then goes back to saying the first has to be true o I think he is a town lean
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:17 pm

@chubby

thats part of thew reason I wanted newbies to try to Make a case on me, I wanted to test if they could make a natural read with logical reasoning and za good conclusion(kinda like Julian who isn't scared to SR me)

but first is really wishy-washy and around the bush not really doing anything and walks away with a town lean on me for ???
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:18 pm

FirstToGetThisName wrote:By the way, anyone agree with me that the roleblock on Chubby is a red herring? I'm guessing it was to solidify Chemist's Sheriff claim.


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:19 pm

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:oi think chemist/first/someone else

i could see first, but if you're getting that from associations i'd be careful. chemist seems to have been associating with a lot of town, see if it's reciprocal


not associations
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Kears123 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:24 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:oi think chemist/first/someone else

i could see first, but if you're getting that from associations i'd be careful. chemist seems to have been associating with a lot of town, see if it's reciprocal


not associations



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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby FirstToGetThisName » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:27 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:By the way, anyone agree with me that the roleblock on Chubby is a red herring? I'm guessing it was to solidify Chemist's Sheriff claim.


????/

Having a member of the mafia target the player that a fake Sheriff claim claimed to be town would make the read appear accurate, no?

Reciprocal means something along the lines of "in return".
In this case, I think they're implying that Chemist might have been showing favoritism those who townread them. Something like that?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby FirstToGetThisName » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:29 pm

In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:30 pm

FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby CaptainJFlint » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:34 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:34 pm

CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby CaptainJFlint » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:38 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...

Really? Are we really doing this? I ask for an investigation into who can be taken seriously from every angle so that we can find the other two mafia, so I’m going to be the fail guy?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:46 pm

CaptainJFlint wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...

Really? Are we really doing this? I ask for an investigation into who can be taken seriously from every angle so that we can find the other two mafia, so I’m going to be the fail guy?


why does it matter what confirmed scum says?

your actually going to try to take info from self-claimed scum?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby FirstToGetThisName » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:52 pm

Does Chemist see themself as so?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:53 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:@chubby

thats part of thew reason I wanted newbies to try to Make a case on me, I wanted to test if they could make a natural read with logical reasoning and za good conclusion(kinda like Julian who isn't scared to SR me)

but first is really wishy-washy and around the bush not really doing anything and walks away with a town lean on me for ???

i don't disagree first is likely to flip scum but lol logical newbies
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:53 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:54 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...

ur being paranoid its obvously sarcasm

don't think that's a scummy association, doesn't say anythng about either of them
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby CaptainJFlint » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:59 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...

Really? Are we really doing this? I ask for an investigation into who can be taken seriously from every angle so that we can find the other two mafia, so I’m going to be the fail guy?


why does it matter what confirmed scum says?

your actually going to try to take info from self-claimed scum?

1.) He isn’t confirmed scum until he’s dead. Likely Scum yes, but until he’s dead in the water, we shouldn’t rush things.
2.) ManateeDude also claimed scum (in his 2nd post if you are so curious to look) and look how scum he was. :roll: (or, see Chubby’s point in his post above mine)
3.) I just want to see what will happen just in case he isn’t scum, because if he is scum, then what happens to Chubby, exactly? I mean, if Scum says he’s green, is he really green? And if Chemist is green, what happens then? Mafia will have 3 meme era and we would have no leads for us newbies to use.
I’ll am saying is that we should have every piece of potential evidence, just in case it is useful. If you think that’s stupid, fine, that’s your opinion. But I’m trying to solve a mystery of who is guilty of killing MustachioMario and Crimson97. That’s it.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:04 pm

can we hammer so I don't have to worry about prodging

also can confirm i did not murder anyone, but i did plot withe said murderers
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:14 pm

CaptainJFlint wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
CaptainJFlint wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
FirstToGetThisName wrote:In addition, there's no reason for the consort not to continue roleblocking Julian or switch to Chemist. By the way, Chemist, what are your results? I'd still like to see what you would say...

red on myself :distracted:

Sarcasm isn’t going to be helpful here, so if you have something useful, say it. And if you don’t have something useful, say it.


@chubby do you think this is distancing or a town clear

becuase its kinda clear that chemist just claimed mafia and then Captain says its sarcasm...

Really? Are we really doing this? I ask for an investigation into who can be taken seriously from every angle so that we can find the other two mafia, so I’m going to be the fail guy?


why does it matter what confirmed scum says?

your actually going to try to take info from self-claimed scum?

1.) He isn’t confirmed scum until he’s dead. Likely Scum yes, but until he’s dead in the water, we shouldn’t rush things.
2.) ManateeDude also claimed scum (in his 2nd post if you are so curious to look) and look how scum he was. :roll: (or, see Chubby’s point in his post above mine)
3.) I just want to see what will happen just in case he isn’t scum, because if he is scum, then what happens to Chubby, exactly? I mean, if Scum says he’s green, is he really green? And if Chemist is green, what happens then? Mafia will have 3 meme era and we would have no leads for us newbies to use.
I’ll am saying is that we should have every piece of potential evidence, just in case it is useful. If you think that’s stupid, fine, that’s your opinion. But I’m trying to solve a mystery of who is guilty of killing MustachioMario and Crimson97. That’s it.


so claiming scum at his point in the game means that he I only likely scum?????
About manatee, here is a HUGE difference between an early game MeMe and a serious scumclaim DAY 3 after being caught by chubby, who caught chemist.
There is no scenario where chemist is town here. It’s literally impossible
3. He is scum. Listening to him will jsut cofnuse is with WIFOM
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby FirstToGetThisName » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:16 pm

...fair point.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:17 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:can we hammer so I don't have to worry about prodging

also can confirm i did not murder anyone, but i did plot withe said murderers


Just meme with me while your here.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:19 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:can we hammer so I don't have to worry about prodging

also can confirm i did not murder anyone, but i did plot withe said murderers


Just meme with me while your here.
It’s
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2. No prods
3. Gives me ime

can i just post chrono trigger music instead
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:19 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:can we hammer so I don't have to worry about prodging

also can confirm i did not murder anyone, but i did plot withe said murderers


Just meme with me while your here.
It’s
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2. No prods
3. Gives me ime

can i just post chrono trigger music instead

Depends on if it’s good
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