Liquidator

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Liquidator

Postby Seththeking » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:36 pm

Liquidator - Neutral Killing

ATK: Basic (Powerful during the Water Rising)
DEF: Basic

During the night perform a Water Ritual on someone.
Anyone who visits the person in the Water Ritual during the night it's set will also be part of the Water Ritual.
You will know who visited your targets that did the Water Ritual
If anyone visits you while your performing a Water Ritual, you will attack and clean one of them.
Priory: Killing, Deception, Evil, Investigative, Support, Chaos, Protective, Benign.
Cleaned targets will come up as “Liquid

(Water Rising Nights: 3,6,9,12 Etc.)
During a Water Rising Night you gain Powerful Attack. (Jailed targets cannot be saved)
During a Water Rising Night you will Not Perform a Water Ritual.
During a Water Rising Night you will Perform a Water Downpour!
(You will Attack everyone in the Water Ritual)

Night Messages: You have decided to Perform a Water Ritual on “ “ Tonight
You will unleash a Water Downpour Tonight!
You felt a body drawing close so you decide to turn it to Liquid!
Killing Text: He/She was “Obliterated by a Liquidator!”
He/She was turned to “Liquid

Sheriff: Your Target is a Liquidator!
Invest: Med, Jan, Ret, Liq or For, LO, Witch, Liq
Consig/Witch: Your target is obsessed with water, They must be a Liquidator!
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Re: Liquidator

Postby rdoukkali » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:16 pm

I like this, but a few of the things haven’t been communicated:

Do you Attack someone you do a ritual on, it is it just marking them for the unstoppable attack?

You say you “clean” people who visit you during a ritual, so do you Attack them?


Personally, I think this is balanced if the ritual is only for marking people, and you don’t Attack people who visit you.
Maybe make it so you mark the person you do a ritual on, and everyone who visited them that night, giving you more options for your Water Downpours (which I think should also clean targets) and letting you claim Lookout.

If you do like any of my changes, I think the Invest result should be Lookout, Forger, Witch or Liquidator.
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Re: Liquidator

Postby Seththeking » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:31 pm

rdoukkali wrote:I like this, but a few of the things haven’t been communicated:

Do you Attack someone you do a ritual on, it is it just marking them for the unstoppable attack?
(You Attack them and their Visitors and pervious Visitors During Water Rising Nights)

You say you “clean” people who visit you during a ritual, so do you Attack them?
(Yes, but with Basic Attack)

Personally, I think this is balanced if the ritual is only for marking people, and you don’t Attack people who visit you.
Maybe make it so you mark the person you do a ritual on, and everyone who visited them that night, giving you more options for your Water Downpours (which I think should also clean targets) and letting you claim Lookout.
(IDK what you mean and I do sorta but I think it’s balanced the way it is)
If you do like any of my changes, I think the Invest result should be Lookout, Forger, Witch or Liquidator
I was gonna go with that but the Med/Jan seemed to make more sense.


I'll be submitting this to TG later maybe.

If anyone wants to give feedback before I do, please say so.
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Re: Liquidator

Postby rdoukkali » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:55 am

If anyone visits you while your performing a Water Ritual, you will clean one of them.


Remove that line and I think it would be perfect.
(Maybe make you clean targets in a downpour for balancing.)
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Re: Liquidator

Postby Seththeking » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:01 am

rdoukkali wrote:
If anyone visits you while your performing a Water Ritual, you will clean one of them.


Remove that line and I think it would be perfect.
(Maybe make you clean targets in a downpour for balancing.)


The reason I have this is because it will be very slow during the first 2 nights without this.

With this you could play it as TP or Vet Bait to make someone visit you.
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Re: Liquidator

Postby rdoukkali » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:31 am

Seththeking wrote:
rdoukkali wrote:
If anyone visits you while your performing a Water Ritual, you will clean one of them.


Remove that line and I think it would be perfect.
(Maybe make you clean targets in a downpour for balancing.)


The reason I have this is because it will be very slow during the first 2 nights without this.

With this you could play it as TP or Vet Bait to make someone visit you.


I kind of see your point.

This seems ok, I was thinking people would instantly know who you are through wills, but then I remembered the cleaning. Overall, I can see this fitting in, you might get a random kill each night, with to kills every three nights.

Your worst enemy would be a Med or Retri, but I say send it to the testing grounds.
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Re: Liquidator

Postby Seththeking » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:51 pm

I fine this NK also interesting as well because its KPN is undetermined. It's based on the skill of the player rather then the role itself.

You could have no kills during the third night if your two targets are already dead and no one visited them.

Ok so the TG says this breaks Rule #5 And Rule #10

Goose is right on it breaking rule 10 this definitely causes chaos.
However this is not rule 5 (RNG) you are picking 2 Targets that die for sure.
The rest of what happens depends on who visits whom.

So next time I’ll make this Role less chaotic.
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