the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the buff

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the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the buff

Postby Flare12332 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:44 pm

Now that witches have a one time auto-vest and can know the roles of people they control now the vigilante can never win in vigilante mode
solution 1 put witch at the old power (don't know roles and no protection) for this mode only edit: also make all witches win in a witch win or
solution 2 replace this mode with a Vampire mode so people will stop adding Vampires to custom games
Last edited by Flare12332 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby DragonClaw66 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:57 pm

When somebody says that they hate Vampires, I get filled with satisfaction. Solution #2 for me please.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:34 am

/support Solution #2
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby 405UserNotAllowed » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:58 am

That mode should of never been added in the first place. If they wanted any mode it should of been All/Any rapidmode. And that's still a bad idea.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby ArteaLightwind » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:16 am

I personally loved the Vigilantics mode before the witch buff. It was a stupid game mode, but some days you just want to hip shoot or make someone kill other people instead of going through the deception and mind game that normal ToS is. Now it's a dead game mode. RIP Vigilantics
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Flare12332 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:51 am

405UserNotAllowed wrote:That mode should of never been added in the first place. If they wanted any mode it should of been All/Any rapidmode. And that's still a bad idea.

Are you still talking about Vigilante mode?
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suggestion to existing game modes tell you lover's role
vigilante mode fixes
Possible Rotating game mode improvement

other ideas add a jugg to custom games
Invest should have a reason

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:53 pm

Also, vigis should be able to shoot n1, and all phases should last half as they last now, since day chat is pointless anyway.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.

I still hope one day the game will have private lobbies. They would really help.
Also, please nerf vampire hunters.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby sarysa » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:46 pm

Solution #1 is something I've had in mind myself. It could be labeled "Witch (old)"...in fact, having old variants of roles in custom would be nice as well, to make vintage setups usable again. Role (Ranked) variants would also be nice for said purpose.

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Psychic - Game-breaking enough that I made a thread about it.

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Shilster » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:00 am

Solution 2 is better, "Witch (old)" seems really ugly with the brackets
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby polypies73 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:37 am

You know you could add more vig’s less witches.

But i do like vamp mode
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby sarysa » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:44 am

Shilster wrote:Solution 2 is better, "Witch (old)" seems really ugly with the brackets


Aesthetics are overrated...but if you don't like that, it could also be named "Vintage Witch".
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Psychic - Game-breaking enough that I made a thread about it.

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Flare12332 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:52 am

sarysa wrote:Solution #1 is something I've had in mind myself. It could be labeled "Witch (old)"...in fact, having old variants of roles in custom would be nice as well, to make vintage setups usable again. Role (Ranked) variants would also be nice for said purpose.

/support

you should make a thread for you classic mode or Old mode where we can play with the old versions of the roles I'd support your idea of Old mode
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suggestion to existing game modes tell you lover's role
vigilante mode fixes
Possible Rotating game mode improvement

other ideas add a jugg to custom games
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Joacgroso » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:18 am

Flare12332 wrote:
sarysa wrote:Solution #1 is something I've had in mind myself. It could be labeled "Witch (old)"...in fact, having old variants of roles in custom would be nice as well, to make vintage setups usable again. Role (Ranked) variants would also be nice for said purpose.

/support

you should make a thread for you classic mode or Old mode where we can play with the old versions of the roles I'd support your idea of Old mode

It was already suggested, look:
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=77574
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.

I still hope one day the game will have private lobbies. They would really help.
Also, please nerf vampire hunters.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby sarysa » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:24 am

Old mode would sit there and never be used. My suggestion would have a fifth category (after Town, Neutral, Mafia, and Coven) called "Vintage", where old versions of roles reside. Could have Vintage Witch, Vintage Disguiser, and Vintage Spy along with perhaps a couple others...and these would never appear outside of custom and special modes like Vigilantics.
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Favorite roles: Jailor, Executioner, Consigliere, Witch, Coven Leader, Guardian Angel
Least favorite: Framer, Disguiser, Jester
Most broken IMO:
Jester - Revert the 2.3.0 patch, give a swiss army knife of nighttime annoyance (ala Potion Master) to aid in fooling the town. Just some kind of agency.
Psychic - Game-breaking enough that I made a thread about it.

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Flare12332 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:26 am

sarysa wrote:Old mode would sit there and never be used. My suggestion would have a fifth category (after Town, Neutral, Mafia, and Coven) called "Vintage", where old versions of roles reside. Could have Vintage Witch, Vintage Disguiser, and Vintage Spy along with perhaps a couple others...and these would never appear outside of custom and special modes like Vigilantics.

how would the invest gather the vintage role as? which is my question
Favorite Roles: Jester and Jailor
Hated role: Vampire

suggestion to existing game modes tell you lover's role
vigilante mode fixes
Possible Rotating game mode improvement

other ideas add a jugg to custom games
Invest should have a reason

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Joacgroso » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:27 am

With their results? Old disguisers could be a problem though.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.

I still hope one day the game will have private lobbies. They would really help.
Also, please nerf vampire hunters.
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby BasicFourLife » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:28 am

People rarely play the current modes...

Making new modes would make the game die...
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby sarysa » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:29 am

Flare12332 wrote:
sarysa wrote:Old mode would sit there and never be used. My suggestion would have a fifth category (after Town, Neutral, Mafia, and Coven) called "Vintage", where old versions of roles reside. Could have Vintage Witch, Vintage Disguiser, and Vintage Spy along with perhaps a couple others...and these would never appear outside of custom and special modes like Vigilantics.

how would the invest gather the vintage role as? which is my question


Same as the current versions...it's more to give players the option to play custom games with the old (albeit controversial) versions of heavily changed roles that they may wish to use.
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Most broken IMO:
Jester - Revert the 2.3.0 patch, give a swiss army knife of nighttime annoyance (ala Potion Master) to aid in fooling the town. Just some kind of agency.
Psychic - Game-breaking enough that I made a thread about it.

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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Pikachu5128 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:46 pm

vigilantics is teribble
Favorite Role: Jailor
Meh roles: Coven Leader, Potion Master, Mafioso, Godfather
HATED ROLES: Forger, Consort, Ambusher, Disguiser, Medium, Psychic, (even though its really important) Hex Master, Medusa, Veteran, Vigilante, yeah i hate a lot of roles...
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Re: the vigilante mode is WAY too Witch favored after the bu

Postby Flare12332 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:54 pm

Pikachu5128 wrote:vigilantics is teribble

it was fun but was never the same as most other gamemodes
now it's just Trash
Favorite Roles: Jester and Jailor
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suggestion to existing game modes tell you lover's role
vigilante mode fixes
Possible Rotating game mode improvement

other ideas add a jugg to custom games
Invest should have a reason

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