Blayzeatron wrote:Mystoc and Cirque, although you are correct in that ret is one of the most busted roles (also considering bodyguard) in the game rn you realise that combining these roles removes the reason why ret is OP.
Reviving someone confirms the ret, the revived person and all mediums in the game. With the new mystic, the mystic dies during the revival, oh great you're confirmed but dead. As for the confirmed mediums, there are no longer mediums in the game to confirm. Only the revived person is confirmed. I already said this in my above comment if you bothered to read it.
The other great thing about this is that there is no longer the potential for multiple mediums. The only role that is completely pointless having two of and they just confirm each other.
Opening up room for a new TS spot to be brought into the game is a positive IMO. Yes its bad while there isn't the new one to be introduced, but this rework could just be not introduced until a point in time where there is.
As for the possession, I assumed it was still once per game and I believe that it should only be once per game. If that seemed UP when tested it could easily be changed to 2.
Blayzeatron wrote:You keep on saying that the chance of this role being in the game will be really high but as mentioned several times, a new TS role would be able to be brought into the game. Therefore as ret is already unique, the chances have literally not changed at all. As long as the new TS role is a good scum claim and can there can be multiple of them the chances for roles will be unchanged.
Mystoc,
Ret, while I agree holds a lot of power, has very little strategy. You simply revive the most powerful person at the right time and you are dome with the game. This is what I am trying to avoid. I Apologize, but I didn't fully comprehend the rest of your post. I already explained the evil thing Mystoc, and I also explained the reporting (did you even read my message?) and the confusion of who is speaking is half the poin, and it also makes it so the Mystic still can't be trusted by the living. Yes, that is correct with the unique thing. And yes, people won't be able to roll Medium anymore BECAUSE IT WON'T EXIST!!! An half the problem is multiple mediums, which is useless. With the ret making med obsolete, that is exactly why I want to combine them, and the revived person only can see the info they saw while they were dead, not anything new. The mystic is supposed to not only bring evidence, but show the opinions/suspicions of the dead, something a few sentences in a seance can't convey.
xXIllegalPotatoXx wrote:Mystoc,
If the trial system jurors were to be able to see when a person is being possessed, the system would not be messed with. I originally wanted to do the ghost idea, and I would have done 1 to two times, but this way the Mystic still can't be 100% trusted. As the town may not trust that the possessed person is really possessed, the Mystic may not get their points across with just one or two Possessions. Also, this is less of a nerf/buff to either of the roles, and is simply vastly different, hence the title 'Overhaul'. Please stop bringing that up.
xXIllegalPotatoXx wrote:1.You were saying this role was too OP, now you are complaining about a nerf?
2.People can confirm the ret the same way, and you have to find someone you trust first.
3.That could be a jester trying to delay/throw off the town
4.The chat could be revealed after the game ends as to when people were possesed
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