More customazible custom mode

[junkymonky43]

We can all agree that custom is just customizing the role list. Lets change that.
• Private lobbys (no repicking , no random spammers joining)
• Blacklisting roles
• Making roles unique
-Custom sheriff results.
-Custom investigator results.
-Custom limit of mafia/coven/vamps.
-Custom amount amount of bullets/alerts/vests/executions/selfheals
-When Coven gets the necromicon and witch role should get it.
-Add Citizens
-Custom trials per day/force players to lynch each day.
-Custom length of days and nights.
-Custom slots (for example, add a consig/invest slot)
-Enabling/disabling last wills.
-Making all roles cleaned.
-Making spies able to read whispers.
-Changing wincons?
Thank you Joacgroso for giving ideas.

[Joacgroso]

Sounds good. Another ideas are:
-Custom sheriff results.
-Custom investigator results.
-Custom limit of mafia/coven/vamps.
-Custom amount amount of bullets/alerts/vests/executions/selfheals
-When should the coven get the Necronomicon and who should get it.
-Add citizens?
-Custom trials per day/force players to lynch each day.
-Custom lenght of days and nights.
Etc. This would be great, especially if it was combined with my other suggestion about custom.

[Shilster]

I'd be happy for a Citizen addition. Custom-only thing.

Spoiler:

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Citizen

Attack: NoneasdedfsddgasadfghjklDefense: None

Alignment: Town (Citizen)

Abilities:
- You have no special abilities except for your vote.

Attributes:
- None.



Goal: Lynch every criminal and evildoer.




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[Joacgroso]

Another ideas:
-Custom slots (for example, add a consig/invest slot)
-Enabling/disabling last wills.
-Making all roles cleaned.
-Making spies able to read whispers.
-Making gf and mafioso able to kill on their own.
-Reverting any patches.
-Customizing the amount of barriers for witches and enabling/disabling their consig ability.
-Forcing NB/NE to side with someone.
-Changing wincons?

Of course players shouldn't gain MP nor achievements for playing this gamemode, since it could be abusable.
If this were implemented, there should be a contest for the best lists and customizations.

[Purple998]

Ideas:

1) How many lynches per day
2) Special role slots : (Ts, mayor excluded - Any, Vampire excluded)
3)Pre fixed role list. (Being able to automatically upload your favorite rolelist, this would save a lot of time)

[GoogleFeud]

lmao what about a custom role then?


You choose a name
You choose the faction
You choose already existing abilities and attributes
And other stuff about the role

[polypies73]

Starting to get a bit complicated but i liek the original idea

[Stiersquid]

• Blacklisting roles

goodbye ret for ever

[Shilster]

• Blacklisting roles

goodbye ret for ever

Seems good

[BasicFourLife]

/support I would love custom lobbies, with settings you could choose yourself.

[junkymonky43]

A lot of great ideas have been shared in this thread! Bumping this.

[shlomopoco]

I like this.

[beybeykess]

I love your idea. Custom right now isn't as custom as it could be.

[joefischerxxx]

This would be cool.

[swagmm23]

/support

Honestly , one of the best ideas i've seen in suggestions.

The one about creating roles , may take a while to make but fine by me.

[loltroll69]

Achievements should also be disabled for obvious reasons.

[Boredfan1]

-I agree, we need private custom lobbies.

-I agree, blacklisting roles can be helpful.

-I semi agree with being able to make roles unique. It can easily screw up the balance more but if you know good game design or are extremely experienced and skilled with the game, it should be okay. So maybe limit this one to either high ELO or high win counts.

-Customizing sheriff results also has a strong potential to make the balance worst. So again, high ELO or high win count only.

-See the above for custom investigator results.

-I can see how putting a custom limit for the mafia, coven and vampires certainly can destroy the fun but this probably would either be more benefitial then detrimentral or about even. Support.

-I can't agree with customizing the bullets of vigilantes, alerts of veterans, vests, executions of jailor and self heals of doctor. Anymore than they have would make town just too strong and less may be too unfair for town.

-I agree, it would be more fun if the witches got the necromicon at different times than the same time every time.

-I don't agree with adding citizens, the town already starts with a majority which is a huge advantage.

-I can see how customizing the number of trials per day can be abused but it would probably be about even. I do not agree with forcing players to lynch every day, the games should be organic.

-I agree with custom length for days and nights but no shorter than the current default, it's short enough.

-What do you mean custom slots?

-I suppose being able to disable wills could be fun but I don't think it'll be used much since it's necessary to prove yourself. Half support.

-If you make all roles cleaned, then the janitor would be pointless and would have to be ensured to not be in the game. Instead, how about disabling the dead list?

-NO!!!! Spies are too powerful with their ability to see mafia visits unrestrained, re-adding whispers only makes them worst again.

-NO! Most people don't understand good game design, changing win conditions would screw up the game severely.

-Making the GF and mafioso kill on their own is definitely an interesting idea. Suport.

-Reverting patches isn't realistic.

-Do NOT mess with witch! It doesn't need to be any harder to use and has far too high of a lose rate.

-It isn't fair to force the NB/NE to side with someone, that would kill any sense of fun for that person and make them resentful of you. So no.

[Joacgroso]

But this suggestions aren't for the game. There are for a special custom gamemode, where players wouldn't be able to get wins/losses/merit ponints/achievements, so balance wouldn't matter. That's the point of this gamemode. Also, customizing slots means creating new ones. For example, sheriff/investigator, retri/jailor, consort/escort, etc. And I don't see how enabling citizens would buff the town, since they have no abilities and can only rely on scumreading. I support all of this suggestions because they would be optional for this gamemode. If this were combined with my suggestion about custom lobbies, players would be able to choose were to join, so no one would be unhappy with this rules.

[Boredfan1]

But this suggestions aren't for the game. There are for a special custom gamemode, where players wouldn't be able to get wins/losses/merit ponints/achievements, so balance wouldn't matter. That's the point of this gamemode. Also, customizing slots means creating new ones. For example, sheriff/investigator, retri/jailor, consort/escort, etc. And I don't see how enabling citizens would buff the town, since they have no abilities and can only rely on scumreading. I support all of this suggestions because they would be optional for this gamemode. If this were combined with my suggestion about custom lobbies, players would be able to choose were to join, so no one would be unhappy with this rules.

Whether the results are recorded and have any bearing on the future or not, balance is important. A well balanced game gives everyone a fair chance to win and is fun to play but an inbalanced game is skewered towards a certain group and isn't fun because you are put at an unfair advantage. As for adding citizens, the town has the most people in the start and can sometimes resurrect a person. This means it's easy for them to majority hang a bad guy until late game while most evils have to slowly whittle down their numbers while trying to keep up the townie act. Thus, a smart town can win and has enough people to play the long game a bit while the longer it goes for evils, the harder it gets. Now, add in four, five new townies and they don't have a chance, there are too many townies.

[Joacgroso]

I didn't say there should be more players (and btw, custom already lets players choose how many townies can be in a game). With enabling citizens, I mean adding the citizen role (a townie without abilities) as a possible role.
Also, balance is not important in all gamemodes. Look at all any. It isn't meant to be balanced. It's meant to be fun. And since players should be able to choose were to join (if my suggestion were applied), and players wouldn't gain anything for winning in this gamemode, then being balanced or not isn't important.

[Flare12332]

also you can pick current (all role as they are currently), and old (all roles as they were when vamp was first added)

/support

[Pikachu5128]

AMAZING IDEA