Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

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Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby joefischerxxx » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:58 pm

Phantom

Neutral Killing

You are a mysterious entitiy that lives inside its victums corpses.

Attack: Basic
Defense: Basic

Abilities: Take over a new target's body each night

Attributes:
-At night select one person to possess
-They will die but appear to everyone else to be alive with you having their name and avatar
-They will not be able to talk in the graveyard
-Your old name and avatar will die, appearing to have the role of the player you just processed and with no will (or maybe your will?)
-If you win the name of the last person you possessed will still appear to be alive, but your original name will be said to have won
-You must wait a night after possessing a new person

Example (makes more sense):
Spoiler: Player A, Nickname: Deodat Lawson, Role: Phantom
Player B, Nickname: John Proctor, Role: Vigilante
Player C, Nickname: Giles Cory, Role: Medium

Night 1: Player A (Deodat Lawson) possesses Player B (John Proctor)
Day 2: Player B is dead, but Player A is now John Proctor, Deodat Lawson appears dead and role appears to be Vigilante
Night 2: Player A (John) possesses Player C
Day 3: Player C is dead, but Player A is now Giles Cory, John Proctor appears dead and role appears to be Medium, Giles Cory appears to be the only one alive, but Player A is really the one that is Giles Cory so Deodat Lawson has won


*right now it does one kill a night, let me know if that is too OP Changed it to a kill every two nights. (Waits a night after a successful possession)

Goal: Kill everyone who would oppose you.

Win Conditions:
Spoiler: Wins Win:
Survivor
Witch
Pirate
Guardian Angel

Must KIll:
Town
Mafia
Vampires
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Werewolf
Coven
Juggernaut
Plaguebearer
Pestilence


Investigative Results:
Sheriff: Your target is a Phantom! (or not suspicious???)
Investigator: ?
Consig/Witch: Your target is a Phantom!

Additional Information:
-If a Phantom possesses another player and players report him, the report would be changed to his name instead of the player he appears as.

Lore:
Might make later...
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby MonzterAssassin » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:55 pm

What happens to the dead player's will? Does it get wiped? Because if so that makes this role OP.

As it stands, it seems like a solo old-fashioned disguiser who can do everything on his own, but if the will reveals him he basically loses when he uses his ability, which makes any player who gets this role a guaranteed loss.

However if the will is wiped this role wouldn't be balanced as he is basically an NK that has several abilities. The closest thing is the arsonist and all he does is douse targets, frame them, and ignite. And even then it's a disliked role and seen as OP. So what would that make this role?

Needs to be drastically nerfed in some way. I'd suggest he only attacks on full moon nights and has a rampage attack but cannot stay home. The player he directly targets will be seen as "consumed by the phantom", that way people know somebody was disguised, and all other kills will snow up as "killed by a phantom" to show that they are their original role.

Nice idea, especially since the old disguiser role was so fun, but needs work.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby Mystoc » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:08 am

would have to ease wills for this to work otherwise it has same problem as old disguiser

earasing wills is kinda OP and will confirm to town that person was phantomed cause blank wills are unusual
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby joefischerxxx » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:23 pm

It wipes wills now.
Maybe it has to rest (doesn't kill) after 2 kills? Or on nights 3, 6, 9...?
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby MafiaMenace » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:11 pm

Seems really like the old disguiser to me.
I still like the role though, but as Mystoc said blank wills are unusual unless you are in low ELO.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby tecnojet » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Good idea, also i sound salty but I also had this idea so :<
Then again someone probably had it before me
And someone before them.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby MafiaMenace » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:18 pm

You do sound salty since you are taking 100% credit for this role.
"0/10 originality" SHOWS that you are salty.

It was a coincidence, I mean you can point out it is like your role, but don't act like they purposely stole it.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby Mystoc » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:08 pm

EDIT: i had a good suggestion to fix this concept of hoping bodies but i liked it so much i removed it lol
cause i want to post it the huge modification the concpet as my own role idea

i will post my own take on this concept soon expect to see a post about it soon maybe even tonight

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also make is so it can only kill every other night otherwise it's too strong
(lore it takes a night for it get used to its new body so it isn't powerful to kill with it yet)

like every odd night it can kill again

(dont full moons WW all does that it doesn't need to be on full moon :P)
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby BasicFourLife » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:57 am

Nope
This brings up teh problem that the old Disg had.
You can be someone else and break the rules, but someone else would get reported or their rep would be damaged. Sorry I can't support this role while this problem still exists.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby joefischerxxx » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:08 am

BasicFourLife wrote:Nope
This brings up teh problem that the old Disg had.
You can be someone else and break the rules, but someone else would get reported or their rep would be damaged. Sorry I can't support this role while this problem still exists.

But the game would be able to tell that they are a different player and redirect the report to the phantom that is causing the problem.
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby joefischerxxx » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:12 am

MafiaMenace wrote:Seems really like the old disguiser to me.
I still like the role though, but as Mystoc said blank wills are unusual unless you are in low ELO.

Should the Phantom replace its old bodies wills with his own will instead of wiping them?
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Re: Phantom (insane and very chaotic killing role)

Postby MafiaMenace » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:13 pm

BasicFourLife wrote:You can be someone else and break the rules, but someone else would get reported or their rep would be damaged. Sorry I can't support this role while this problem still exists.


That too.
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