Witch change/buff?

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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:03 pm

Witch is the best role in game people need to leave this role alone.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby kookeekwisp » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:16 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:Witch is the best role in game people need to leave this role alone.

First off, Jailor.
Second, i agree (partly), which is why i suggested removing one of it's buffs. Autovest makes it too powerful, and exact-role is more powerful than Consig 'cause it's Frame-proof.

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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:34 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:Witch is the best role in game people need to leave this role alone.

Well it gives witch a strong claim which is positive and makes town question escort. Which isnt the best and shouldnt be a cpnsigliere
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby JGaming08 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 pm

Didn't you already get this into TG?

Because I'm pretty sure it's there.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Klainatta » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:09 pm

/nosupport

Control is useless and hard to use without Consig ability. It is too random, you can't make working strategies. Witch is powerful, it doesn't need a strong claim like Escort and it won't be strong anyway. All town needs to do is hang or jail the Escprt claims.

Person A would know if their ability is used on someone which outs Witch.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby kookeekwisp » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:38 pm

Klainatta wrote:/nosupport

Control is useless and hard to use without Consig ability. It is too random, you can't make working strategies. Witch is powerful, it doesn't need a strong claim like Escort and it won't be strong anyway. All town needs to do is hang or jail the Escprt claims.

Person A would know if their ability is used on someone which outs Witch.

There's a version that blocks TI from getting results.
If you considered that, then of course they would. Otherwise, there would be no finding Witch, aside from claims
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:23 am

Klainatta wrote:/nosupport

Control is useless and hard to use without Consig ability. It is too random, you can't make working strategies. Witch is powerful, it doesn't need a strong claim like Escort and it won't be strong anyway. All town needs to do is hang or jail the Escprt claims.

Person A would know if their ability is used on someone which outs Witch.


Are you joking? the consig ability makes it so powerful, witch didn't need that all it needed originally was a vest.

And @jgaming08 I don't know, I did submit it to Parallax but I don't know if it's a thing.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:25 am

I also agree the auto vest is too powerful
But I do love being the witch

The original witch was useless with No consig ability, witch needs to find ally's and needs to know who they should use
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:34 am

Soulshade55r wrote:I also agree the auto vest is too powerful
But I do love being the witch

The original witch was useless with No consig ability, witch needs to find ally's and needs to know who they should use


Witch was weak because they kept dying without the autovest
If witch controls someone and sees their target died to mafia, its safe to assume that they controlled a mafia killing
Also i never said witch shuld lose the consig ability but its an idea.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:48 pm

Witch would randomly control people I think the auto vest makes it to powerful if it has the consigilere ability

Auto vest would be ok but it would be hard to claim, with the consigilere power it can but used has a fake invest (aslong has you mix up some people and use some dead people)

Also Am I the only one to say this the new witch is doomed in the new ranked because It can't claim anything, if investigated
It should be
witch/consig/invest swapped with mayor has mayor can just reveal.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:40 am

Soulshade55r wrote:Witch would randomly control people I think the auto vest makes it to powerful if it has the consigilere ability

Auto vest would be ok but it would be hard to claim, with the consigilere power it can but used has a fake invest (aslong has you mix up some people and use some dead people)

Also Am I the only one to say this the new witch is doomed in the new ranked because It can't claim anything, if investigated
It should be
witch/consig/invest swapped with mayor has mayor can just reveal.

with my change witch would have a great claim that also makes town question escort.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:19 pm

This makes the witch more weaker removing it's consigilere ability frankly (It would make it terrible again) I don't like this change I understand witch is put into a horrible situation when Investigated though.
I think keeping witch is fine it should be switch'd with mayor has witch can fake invest (aslong has you are clever and mix up results and use some peoples claims) has mayor isn't that hard to prove you just click a button.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Parallax7 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:08 pm

Wasn't this **MY** idea?

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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:28 pm

Parallax7 wrote:Wasn't this **MY** idea?

Regardless, /Support

No? I had it and posted it on role ideas i think then you said you had the same idea
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Jackparrot » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:12 pm

I believe this needs to be implemented
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EDIT: also maybe put it in role format
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:48 am

Jackparrot wrote:I believe this needs to be implemented
/Fullsupport

EDIT: also maybe put it in role format

Maybe i guess...
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm

I still don't get how this is a "buff" the consig ability is on of the best tools for the witch It'd say lose the auto vest maybe to make it weaker but witch doesn't need to changed tbh.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby timurtheking » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:39 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:I still don't get how this is a "buff" the consig ability is on of the best tools for the witch It'd say lose the auto vest maybe to make it weaker but witch doesn't need to changed tbh.

This gives witch a good strong claim unlike the invest claim it's forced to go with, which is usually pretty bad also the idea of removing the consig part wasnt 100% it says extra idea
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Soulshade55r » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Making it have the role block message would probably make it too OP
The invest claim is quite strong but you can claim anything because once invest sees your results in ranked well your dead

If it would come up with the role blocked message that would be suspicious unless they don't get results.

I'd keep its consig ability and add it's role block message but remove its auto vest.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby kookeekwisp » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:19 am

Autovest should never have existed in the first place.
It's only because of SO MANY PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT HER POWER BECAUSE 2 TARGET ROLES ARE TOO COMPLEX TO USE STRATEGICALLY!!!
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby Jackparrot » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:38 am

Soulshade55r wrote:Making it have the role block message would probably make it too OP
The invest claim is quite strong but you can claim anything because once invest sees your results in ranked well your dead

If it would come up with the role blocked message that would be suspicious unless they don't get results.

I'd keep its consig ability and add it's role block message but remove its auto vest.


No, Witch should have the power to control a player, not see their role.
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Re: Witch change/buff?

Postby kookeekwisp » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:52 am

Well, it means nothing if you don't know who the hell you're controlling! That's why she got the buff in the first place.

Idk what the hell people were thinking asking for a Witch autovest. Now she's a Surv/Trans freak of nature that's extremely powerful & dangerous
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