BlazinIce wrote:The BG change is a nerf
Also, does firebrand frame targets?
Damafaud wrote:Citizen won't work here simply because people will leave as soon as they get them.
Rolewise, it's fine. Funwise for this game, unacceptable.
AegonSnow wrote:The Firebrand esp.
I just don't see any real reason we need a Town Arsonist.
dirkpeta wrote:Personally I don't agree with the BG nerf. Getting BG healed is so difficult as it is, I think it's not OP to have it happen as unlikely as it does.
AegonSnow wrote:If there's Citizen, why not a Mafia version as well?
alex1234321 wrote:dirkpeta wrote:Personally I don't agree with the BG nerf. Getting BG healed is so difficult as it is, I think it's not OP to have it happen as unlikely as it does.
Just because something is unlikely does not mean that it is not a problem. If there was a role that could kill everyone else night 1 and automatically win but had a 1/1000 chance of spawning, would that be fair? It is very rare, but when it does occur, it would be a problem.
Tonbert wrote:I don't think new roles should be replicating existing roles anymore. That's not interesting. Ppl will rage quit or random vote as citizens if all they can do is vote and wear a vest. This is proven to be true in mod games before this site existed.
cap is too OP. Hustler sounds suicical.
HereThereEverywhere wrote:I think Firebrand is too strong for Town, it can kill more than Vigi and Jailor in it's lifetime, has no drawbacks, and can pierce immunities, which Town doesn't need to do since they can lynch.
I don't see Hustler as useful personally.
BG/GF changes I support, definitely. Maybe even letting GF know everything that happened to their team, including silent checks and such.
HereThereEverywhere wrote:How similar is FM to ToS though? Saying Firebrand and Hustler are good there doesn't really help you if we don't know the differences, I doubt it's exactly the same.
And I know how your GF change works, I mean all feedback sent to the Mafia member, and all feedback that's not sent to the member. Something like getting healed without being attacked or such.
HereThereEverywhere wrote:I think Firebrand is too strong for Town, it can kill more than Vigi and Jailor in it's lifetime, has no drawbacks, and can pierce immunities, which Town doesn't need to do since they can lynch.
I don't see Hustler as useful personally.
BG/GF changes I support, definitely. Maybe even letting GF know everything that happened to their team, including silent checks and such.
DumbStorm wrote:We already have a citizen role, Spy.
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