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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [4750+ views]<Updated>

Postby blaze20k » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:50 pm

I personally think that when the obsession is targeted by the Yandere, the obsession should be roleblocked as well.
As I watch you burn, I smile. As I watch your body being destroyed in front of you, I grin. As I watch you scream in uncontrollable pain, I laugh. It brings joy to my soul to watch your entire existence, your life, your property, to be melted away in a sea of flames...

The more I kill, the happier I feel.


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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [4750+ views]<Updated>

Postby sh99er » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:21 am

if it cant be with TK / TS...but can be with TP. Having a BG as your target is sorta unfair....because well....they die to use thier ability.
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Postby DarthaNyan » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:57 am

Possible scenario, D2:
XXX: i'm being stalked - vote me up and abstain. Then lynch Yandere (inno voter).
if town complies because having another killing role is a bit too much for every faction: Yandere (and possibly Jester) votes inno, one is hanged, the other executed.
if town does not comply, Witch might send "obsession" to the Vet for shits and giggles.

Yandere stalking WW that decided to stay home on a full moon night... would that kill both of them since WW attacks himself? (needs achievement as well)
Edit: but then WW attacking Yandere would count as if "obsession" visited Yandere and roleblocked her...
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [4750+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:01 am

sh99er wrote:if it cant be with TK / TS...but can be with TP. Having a BG as your target is sorta unfair....because well....they die to use thier ability.

Good point. I'll make the swap.

DarthaNyan wrote:Possible scenario, D2:
XXX: i'm being stalked - vote me up and abstain. Then lynch Yandere (inno voter).
if town complies because having another killing role is a bit too much for every faction: Yandere (and possibly Jester) votes inno, one is hanged, the other executed.
if town does not comply, Witch might send "obsession" to the Vet for shits and giggles.

Yandere stalking WW that decided to stay home on a full moon night... would that kill both of them since WW attacks himself? (needs achievement as well)
Edit: but then WW attacking Yandere would count as if "obsession" visited Yandere and roleblocked her...

Good question. I'll explain those in detail at the bottom of the post.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:22 am

I made a few changes to make the role a bit more balanced.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [4750+ views]<Updated>

Postby DarthaNyan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:38 am

TheMajesticSammie wrote:
Yandere stalking WW that decided to stay home on a full moon night... would that kill both of them since WW attacks himself? (needs achievement as well)
Edit: but then WW attacking Yandere would count as if "obsession" visited Yandere and roleblocked her...

Good question. I'll explain those in detail at the bottom of the post.


Q: What happens if a Yandere stalks a Werewolf when the Werewolf chooses to stay at home on a full moon?
A: Spoiler: The Yandere roleblocks them, keeping the werewolf from attacking. But because the Yandere is stalking, any visitors to the Werewolf die anyway, but are said to have been killed by a Yandere instead.

Thats not how game mechanics work. When a role is RBed and has an ability that activates if/when you are RBed - that ability will go through anyway. Abilities cannot be RBed. And WW has one - he stays at home attacks himself and any visitor.

For example: Escort's/Consort's ability says "RB immune" but game mechanic perspective their ability is "if roleblocked - RB your target". While it might look the same - they are not: RBed Escort/Consort doesn't visit the target they RB making it possible to fool Lookouts and fully RB the WW (escort/consort RBs another escort/consort that RBs WW will result in both escorts alive and WW staying home.)
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:38 pm

This Role seems pretty good, but It should just end if its yandere and mafia left because theres no point in waiting the days and nights to kill off the mafia
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Postby sh99er » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:39 am

Arpitr20 wrote:This Role seems pretty good, but It should just end if its yandere and mafia left because theres no point in waiting the days and nights to kill off the mafia


I agree that if its just Yandere + 5 maf / 4 vamps

they will prob just hang the yandere as the yandere would have to kill 4 maf / 3 vamps
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Postby Millefeuille » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:14 pm

I have a question: 1) What happens in this scenario?

daytime: Obsession is lynched, jailor decides to jail yandere
nighttime: yandere is in jail, can't use rampage(?)

You can't really choose someone to kill in jail. So will the rampage just kill the jailor (even if he did not vote) like the ww/sk?
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:32 pm

dmsc1999 wrote:So an interesting scenario here is, what if the executor has your lover as a target? Would you still be able to kill him at night if he lynched his target?

I answered you guys' questions in the FAQ's. Take a look.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby joefischerxxx » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:20 pm

THIS IDEA IS RULED OUT!!!!!!! SHOWS WHAT A NOOB YOU ARE IF YOU CAN"T EVEN READ THE RULES.
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Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:38 pm

joefischerxxx wrote:THIS IDEA IS RULED OUT!!!!!!! SHOWS WHAT A NOOB YOU ARE IF YOU CAN"T EVEN READ THE RULES.

Orange is a smart guy, and he knows what he's talking about.
But his word isn't law.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:45 pm

joefischerxxx wrote:THIS IDEA IS RULED OUT!!!!!!! SHOWS WHAT A NOOB YOU ARE IF YOU CAN"T EVEN READ THE RULES.

orangeandblack5 wrote:Granted, there are a few roles that break the mold and manage to fit into these categories and actually be good role ideas.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby UnknownBen » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:35 am

so if the yandere's target dies, yandere loses right?
what happens if yandere dies yet her target won the game?
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby HeatFragment » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:46 am

I like killing old men and seance my dead grandma...
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Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:08 am

UnknownBen wrote:so if the yandere's target dies, yandere loses right?
what happens if yandere dies yet her target won the game?

The Yandere still loses. The target has to live until the end of the game.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby BrotherBlub » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:34 am

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Sorry in advance, but any self respecting game developer would never put a Yandere in it. Its also in the role ideas not to make. Its a really cool role idea - I would like to see it in-game, as it would be a lot of fun playing as or against, but Town of Salem would be a meme if they put Yandere in the game.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:52 am

BrotherBlub wrote:<SALT WARNING>

Sorry in advance, but any self respecting game developer would never put a Yandere in it. Its also in the role ideas not to make. Its a really cool role idea - I would like to see it in-game, as it would be a lot of fun playing as or against, but Town of Salem would be a meme if they put Yandere in the game.


TheMajesticSammie wrote:
joefischerxxx wrote:THIS IDEA IS RULED OUT!!!!!!! SHOWS WHAT A NOOB YOU ARE IF YOU CAN"T EVEN READ THE RULES.

orangeandblack5 wrote:Granted, there are a few roles that break the mold and manage to fit into these categories and actually be good role ideas.


The reason it was ruled out was because too many people were suggesting it, and most of them put very little thought if any at all into their versions of the Yandere. I have literally been pruning this role for four months, and it's well-balanced and people like it. As for being a meme... let's not forget that Yandere Simulator was banned from Twitch.
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Postby HereThereEverywhere » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:56 am

I like it when people use orange's thread as a weapon. I do too, but that's when the role is clearly violating the "Rules"(They're not rules btw) and it's just a bad idea.
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Postby BrotherBlub » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:57 am

We have to keep in mind that this entire game for the most part is themed around the Salem witch trials...i dont really have any idea of how a yandere would exist then.
BTW is this a unique role?
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:59 am

You're right, a Yandere is a bad idea.
Remove Arsonist too, because they use gasoline.
Remove Transporter because it makes no sense how people can just be forcibly moved like that by a guy with a carriage, especially an SK or a WW on a full moon.
Remove the Mafia, because the Mafia didn't exist in Salem.
Dude, balance > lore. It doesn't matter if it's not logical if it's good for the game.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby sh99er » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:02 am

HereThereEverywhere wrote:You're right, a Yandere is a bad idea.
Remove Arsonist too, because they use gasoline.
Remove Transporter because it makes no sense how people can just be forcibly moved like that by a guy with a carriage, especially an SK or a WW on a full moon.
Remove the Mafia, because the Mafia didn't exist in Salem.
Dude, balance > lore. It doesn't matter if it's not logical if it's good for the game.


If anything just change name into something like Widow or Bridesmaid or something more old fashioned xD
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby BrotherBlub » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:03 am

ok i will maybe shut up about that.

Still a little odd.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:18 pm

BrotherBlub wrote:We have to keep in mind that this entire game for the most part is themed around the Salem witch trials...i dont really have any idea of how a yandere would exist then.
BTW is this a unique role?

The Salem Witch Trials were about witches.
They didn't involve werewolves, vampires, arsonists, or any form of mafia. So if all of those are allowed, then a Yandere should be allowed too.

And yes, the Yandere is a unique role. It would be too chaotic if there was more than one.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [5000+ views]<Updated>

Postby BrotherBlub » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:20 pm

ok i get it. Ill let it go. again, being a HUGE Executioner and Jester fan, this role would probably top my list too.
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