Shapeshifter (Neutral Killing) (Update 18)

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Shapeshifter (Neutral Killing) (Update 18)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:12 am

Spoiler: Role Name: Shapeshifter (Credit to Skulomania for the name)
Alignment: Neutral Killing
Description: A super natural being with the powers of transformation

Abiilties:
-Kill someone each night
-Choose 2 animals/elements to become a hybrid of when you kill

Attributes:
-You can't kill till Night 3
-Night Immune
-Half of the transformations can only be picked on night 1 and the other half on night 2
Or instead of the above
-3 Transformations to choose from are randomly picked night 1 and 2.

Note: Can only be one per-game.


Goal: Kill everyone who would oppose you

Must kill:
Town
Mafia
Serial Killers
Arsonists
Werewolves
Vamps for Hire

Wins with:
Survivors
Witches

You may spare anyone else.

Notifications:
Sheriff: Your target is a Shapeshifter!
Invest: Your target is waiting for the perfect moment to strike. They are either a Sheriff, Executioner, Werewolf or Shapeshifter.
Consig: Your target can transform into a hybrid of 2 creatures. They must be a Shapeshifter!
When selecting a transformation: You have decided to channel the form of a X
Night 3: You have your transformation powers. Time to kill!


Lore:

Spoiler: Once a feared killer known as the Planned Murderer, the Shapeshifter was not always what they are now. They used to plan his murders and actions every night, with carefully drawn murder sheets. Oneday, the Planned Murderer wanted to take their killing to a whole new level. After some unknown, mysterious process, The Planned Murderer gained the powers of Shapeshifting. They are now feared on a whole new level...

Transformations:
Spoiler: Half steel: Can't be killed by Bodyguards
Shadow: Can't be seen by Lookouts
Snake: Steal will, the will would be revealed 2 nights later.
Fire Elemental: Burn your targets will every second kill.
Lion: Roleblock Immunity
Cheetah: Gain the ability to kill 2 people at once for one night.
Owl: Gain the ability to see who visits you for a night. Can be used 3 times.
Cat: If you attack an Alerted Veteran, you will escape without killing anyone. The Veteran would get the message:You found a suspicious cat in your house, but it escaped!
Demon: You can only kill every 2 nights. If you are lynched, you will possess a person of your choice, killing them while Disguising as them and removing the will.
Dragon: If you live to the final 4, you win the game, but your second transformations will be randomly picked. This can only be picked Night 1.


Note: If you pick snake and Fire Elemental, you would steal the will then burn it 2 nights later.



Canceled Transformations:
???: Go through night immunity
Innocent Townie: Detection immunity
???: Misleading invest result
Evil Townie: Your invest results are now framer/vampire/jester
Reaper: Kill 1 person who visits you. They will be cleaned and their soul will be destroyed, making them unable to talk in dead chat.
Cockatrees: Roleblock your target as well as killing them



Achievements:
Spoiler: Shapeing a victory: Win your first game as Shapeshifter
Shapelifting: Win 5 games as Shapeshifter
Getting in Shape: Win 10 games as Shapeshifter
Shapeing a Winstreak: Win 25 games as Shapeshifter
Hogging the wills: Steal then a burn a will with the Fire Elemental and Snake transformations.
Dragon Born: Win at the final 4 with the Dragon transformations.







Note: I made this role idea for fun... making ideas for fun is what I do for a living.


Updates:
Spoiler: Update: Gave the name Planner and no longer has BG immunity, Lookout immunity or Steal Will ability. Now you pick 2 buffs (Because you "plan" what to do)
Update 2: Removed go through immunity buff.
Update 3: Changed name to Planned Murderer. Consig result changed to be less laughable.
Update 4: Name changed back to Planner.
Update 5: Name changed to Shapeshifter
Udpate 6: Evil Townie removed, added Lion and Fire Elemental transformations.
Update 7: Changed the description (forgot to change it
Update 8: Added Cheetah, Owl and Cockatrees
Update 9: Removed Innocent Townie
Update 10: Added Reaper and Dragon Power transfromations!
Update 11: Added a canceled transformation list. Replaced Reaper with Demon.
Update 12: Dragon now auto-wins at the final 5.
Update 13: Dragon now auto-wins at final 4 again.
Update 14: Cockatrees replaced with cat.
Update 15: Dragons drawback changed from kill every 2 nights to your second transformation is randomly picked.
Update 16: Added Achievements and Lore.
Update 17: Fire Elemental changed to burn your targets will every second kill (hue). Owl changed to gain the ability to see who visits you for the night. Can be used 3 times. Cheetah changed to gain the ability to kill 2 people for a night.
Update 18: Changed attributes. Added 2 options to how the transformations would work (5 transformations for one night and 5 for second. These are set everytime. Or, 3 random transformations for the first 2 nights. You will never get the same options a lot.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing) (Changed)

Postby Cenas4life » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:47 pm

I actually really like this idea. It is interesting and unique and not too overpowered or underpowered. The only suggestion I have is that you remove the buff of "goes through night immunity". Overall, good role! /Support
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing) (Changed)

Postby TandJ50 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:29 pm

I think you should be able to steal will and not be killed by bgs, take out immunity piercing
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing) (Changed)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:29 am

Immunity ignoring has been removed. Thank you.

If you guys have any buff suggestions let me know.

BAD THREAD! GET BACK TO THE FIRST SECTION! Good thread :3
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby cxl1024 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:00 pm

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Crazyzombie168 wrote: Spoiler: Role Name: Planner Try coming up with a more threatening name. Make it scary.
Alignment: Neutral Killing
Description: A sneaky killer who plots his murders. Premeditated. Adds more depth to the role. I like it.

Abiilties:
-Kill someone each night

Attributes:
-You can't kill till Night 3 Because he's too busy planning. It all makes sense.
-You may choose 2 buffs for the 2 nights you don't kill
-Night Immune

Note: Can only be one per-game.


Goal: Kill everyone who would oppose you

Must kill:
Town
Mafia
Serial Killers
Arsonists
Werewolves
Vamps for Hire

Wins with:
Survivor
Witch

You may spare anyone else.

Notifications:
Sheriff: You're target is a Planner
Invest: Your target is waiting for the perfect moment to strike. They are either a Sheriff, Executioner, Werewolf or Planner
Consig: Your target has plans. They must be a Planner BEST CONSIG RESULT I HAVE EVER SEEN. BRAVO!!! not really lol I was joking
Night 1: You are plotting on how to murder your victims.
Night 2: You are almost done planning.
Night 3: Your plans are finished. Time to kill!


Law: Commeth soon


Buffs to choose from:
Can't be killed by Bodyguards
Can't be seen by Lookouts
Steal will
Detection Immunity
Misleading Invest Result




Note: I made this role idea for fun... making ideas for fun is what I do for a living.

Note 2: I want this role to be powerful, but not OP. If you have any suggestions, please post it!

Update: Planner no longer has BG immunity, Lookout immunity or Steal Will ability. Now you pick 2 buffs (Because you "plan" what to do)


So, you get to choose what your attributes are every time you get this role? I LIKE IT!!! I have never seen this mechanic used before, and I honestly think that is a brilliant idea! Seriously, that sounds fucking awesome. I love it.

Change the name, but yeah

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Re: Planned Murder (Neutral Killing) (Updated)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:18 pm

I am very happy I decided to make that complete 180 on this role. I came up with it because even when I am making the thread, I still think about what to do with the role. And when I was finished (or near it) I thought of it, because I thought it made sense and gave more depth for the role. Even though I didn't do it instantly, I am glad I did it. Gives the role a bit of backstory :P. I will be making the law soon, but only when I get a name that works for everyone.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (New Poll)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:37 am

Added new poll.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (New Poll)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:34 pm

I kinda like this roles abilities to chose it's buffs. I got an idea for a new one : your first killed victims role will be hidden.



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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (New Poll)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:02 pm

I was expecting "oh, choose your buffs has been done before and is stupid" Never though anyone would like it, which is why I was debating to change it to that. I am happy it did, as I though it made the role more like what it is.... like I said before... I will stop making these types of comments now.

ALRIGHT everyone! Since so many people want the name changed, I want everyone to pitch their name ideas. I will toss a phew in a poll afterwards.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby ThePhoenix42 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:23 pm

Not too sure about these, but
  • strategist
  • schemer

I can't find any more that I like that I think would fit this role on thesaurus.com, but I will add more from other websites later (if I find more).
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby Cenas4life » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:44 pm

ThePhoenix42 wrote:Not too sure about these, but
  • strategist
  • schemer

I can't find any more that I like that I think would fit this role on thesaurus.com, but I will add more from other websites later (if I find more).


Those names are better than planned murder.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Cenas4life wrote:
ThePhoenix42 wrote:Not too sure about these, but
  • strategist
  • schemer

I can't find any more that I like that I think would fit this role on thesaurus.com, but I will add more from other websites later (if I find more).


Those names are better than planned murder.



I was going for the well known killer vibe with Planned Murderer :P.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby cxl1024 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Serial Killer 2.0. Because this is cooler than the regular serial killer.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:56 pm

Ok guys, I am going back to Planner as the name and that is FINAL. I want the role name to be something I made. I don't care that is not scary, IDC that is not original, I am sticking with it.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby cxl1024 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:00 pm

Crazyzombie168 wrote:Ok guys, I am going back to Planner as the name and that is FINAL. I want the role name to be something I made. I don't care that is not scary, IDC that is not original, I am sticking with it.


I still disagree with the name, but I respect you for having balls to stick to your guns.
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Re: Planned Murderer (Neutral Killing) (Name Suggestions wan

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:09 pm

cxl1024 wrote:
Crazyzombie168 wrote:Ok guys, I am going back to Planner as the name and that is FINAL. I want the role name to be something I made. I don't care that is not scary, IDC that is not original, I am sticking with it.


I still disagree with the name, but I respect you for having balls to stick to your guns.



Thank you. I know the name isn't the best, but I wana keep it. If a better name ever runs across my ideaist brain, I might change it, but I probably won't.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby Skulomania » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:27 pm

Here's a possible name change that makes the role cooler :)

Shapeshifter.

the ability of a being or creature to completely transform its physical form or shape. This is usually achieved through an inherent ability of a mythological creature, divine intervention, or the use of magic. The most common form of shapeshifting myths is that of therianthropy, which is the transformation of a human being into an animal or conversely, of an animal into human form

This adds more of a supernatural feeling to the role, and kind of explains how the role can change in each game lore-wise. Like it may turn into a snake or something to steal someone's will, or it can make half its body like steel in order to be immune to bodyguard bullets, or it can transform its physical body into a shadow in order to not be seen by lookouts, etc and etc. I mean because it's fantasy, you can come up with anything to explain anything, so it's up to you. I'm just giving you examples.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby Cenas4life » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:45 pm

Skulomania wrote:Here's a possible name change that makes the role cooler :)

Shapeshifter.

the ability of a being or creature to completely transform its physical form or shape. This is usually achieved through an inherent ability of a mythological creature, divine intervention, or the use of magic. The most common form of shapeshifting myths is that of therianthropy, which is the transformation of a human being into an animal or conversely, of an animal into human form

This adds more of a supernatural feeling to the role, and kind of explains how the role can change in each game lore-wise. Like it may turn into a snake or something to steal someone's will, or it can make half its body like steel in order to be immune to bodyguard bullets, or it can turn transform its physical body into a shadow in order to not be seen by lookouts, etc and etc. I mean because it's fantasy, you can come up with anything to explain anything, so it's up to you. I'm just giving you examples.


I like that idea. I like it quite a bit actually.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:06 pm

Skulomania wrote:Here's a possible name change that makes the role cooler :)

Shapeshifter.

the ability of a being or creature to completely transform its physical form or shape. This is usually achieved through an inherent ability of a mythological creature, divine intervention, or the use of magic. The most common form of shapeshifting myths is that of therianthropy, which is the transformation of a human being into an animal or conversely, of an animal into human form

This adds more of a supernatural feeling to the role, and kind of explains how the role can change in each game lore-wise. Like it may turn into a snake or something to steal someone's will, or it can make half its body like steel in order to be immune to bodyguard bullets, or it can transform its physical body into a shadow in order to not be seen by lookouts, etc and etc. I mean because it's fantasy, you can come up with anything to explain anything, so it's up to you. I'm just giving you examples.



.....Huh, I might put that into consideration . Thanks.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby BPsycho2 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:34 pm

Neutral Killers are kind of supposed to have a 2KillPer2Night average.

Waiting until day three? eh. Not feeling it.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby AzotHical » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:03 am

I think this would be a fun role doesn't seem too Over Powered and pretty balanced
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:28 am

BPsycho2 wrote:Neutral Killers are kind of supposed to have a 2KillPer2Night average.

Waiting until day three? eh. Not feeling it.



How else will it be balanced? Its only 2 nights.
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Re: Planner (Neutral Killing)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:57 am

BPsycho2 wrote:Neutral Killers are kind of supposed to have a 2KillPer2Night average.

Waiting until day three? eh. Not feeling it.

werewolf has a 1 kill per two nights average and arsonist has a well 3 kills per 4 nights? its less than that though
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Re: Shapeshifter (Neutral Killing)

Postby Crazyzombie168 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:40 pm

Name has been changed from Planner to Shapeshifter!
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Re: Shapeshifter (Neutral Killing)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:51 am

i would prefer not having this role with a hole supernatural feeling.I feel better with roles than kinda make sense and could possibly exist. Althoug i dont really have a problem. Also why not add an upgrade: cruel killing: targets cannot be healed by a doctor
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