[Newcomer FM] NFM26 | GAME OVER [Mafia + Witch Win]

[melanora]

By the way, I didn't think a moderator could also play games or vice versa (since I've played with you on FM melanora

1. I just became a mod last week, and ignoring the Upick I stole from Obi, this is my first official game as mod.

2. Mods do play games as well. We just often only play one game max, and cannot participate in certain games because we know layout. You'll see more mods to play with in the future I'm sure.


Any questions for me? Day ends in about six and a half hours. Don't be afraid to ask anything.

[AaronC]

Awesome. Achievement get. Moms Helping Hand.
(Be a player in Mels first game as Mod.)

[yauaustin202]

Alright, 5 bucks say Mroz4k dies N1 for being too contributive.

Anyways, let me repeat our plan:
Don't claim witched.
Don't fucking hardclaim.
Don't be salty.
Be active.
And finnaly sleep tight.

[KilledbySnow]

I don´t really have anything specific in mind.......

[jakob12341]

do not tell people you've been witched till later in the game (confirmed players may tell us but no-one else)

Why would you do that? I don´t know what is customary in FM(As I haven´t played that many games),but what I learned from ToS in general is that witholding Witched claims makes you look anti-town and scummy in general,and not claiming Witched can signal the Witch that you´re scum.

lemme explain the logics of FM....ahem (forget most of what you know in ToS) mafia (scum) has a daychat/nightchat which is active all the time if 1 of them were to be witched they could plan (in order to contact the witch) to "pretend" to be witched in that case the witch would know who not to witch of them (and town wouldn't even notice)


tadaa!

[Cenas4life]

Patiently waiting for day 2.

[jakob12341]

Alright, 5 bucks say Mroz4k dies N1 for being too contributive.

Anyways, let me repeat our plan:
Don't claim witched.
Don't fucking hardclaim.
Don't be salty.
Be active.
And finnaly sleep tight.

and Yauaustin you do your role well okay? XD (don't want the game to end up like it did last time me and you played when you were sheriff)

By the way, I didn't think a moderator could also play games or vice versa (since I've played with you on FM melanora

1. I just became a mod last week, and ignoring the Upick I stole from Obi, this is my first official game as mod.

2. Mods do play games as well. We just often only play one game max, and cannot participate in certain games because we know layout. You'll see more mods to play with in the future I'm sure.


Any questions for me? Day ends in about six and a half hours. Don't be afraid to ask anything.

oh that's nice hope you do well (actually you're better than Rockfire to be honest because you make an ISO at least LOL)

@posts above me
Wouldn't claiming you've been witched on the night that you did be more helpful? I mean, if we're tallying night results for each night, we would really need to know if Witch is actively doing something or not. From what I've seen in ToS, keeping Witchings till later is really scum-like, so it's generally best to claim your witchings early. Unless, you're pulling the "self-attack" game.

Self Attack:
Witch claims they were witched to lower suspicion.
Arsonist claims they were doused.
Prankster claims they were transported/witched/etc.

That's what I mean.

I already did answer that but keep in mind that mafia has a day/night chat so they can just chat whenever they feel like it and plan stuff
(just to be sure that one of the mafia didn't get hit.....then the witch would know stuff we don't)

[jakob12341]

Patiently waiting for day 2.

it's gonna take a long time because there's also the night phase

[yauaustin202]

Oh don't worry jakob, I'll probably fuck up even harder than last time. Especially this time.

[Mroz4k]

Alright, 5 bucks say Mroz4k dies N1 for being too contributive.

Anyways, let me repeat our plan:
Don't claim witched.
Don't fucking hardclaim.
Don't be salty.
Be active.
And finnaly sleep tight.

Possible, but a bit risky. Generally that could be helpful to the evil roles, but I do give tips to them too so they might reconsider it. Or, it could easily be my goal - being extra helpful just to get attacked. In FM I always look for a way to get an upper hand

That's a neat wall, Mroz. I politely deny your accusations of being a scrub. We all know I'm superior, hence you believing me when I'm scum every time gg

The game as a whole is longer than ToS (no, really?!?!?!), so there's more to analyze. Something definitely worth thinking about is what others know. Do try to stay out of the trap of only considering what you know. 90% of slips happen from the POV of others. "What did that fellow just say that DOESN'T line up with what he's thinking, said before, or definitely knows?"

aaaa I´ve been exposed.

Oh kewl. Finally I am in a game with Mroz! Prepare for awesome debates.

that almost looks like a bait, but we will see, hopefully we both survive the initial start to the game.

[yauaustin202]

I'd doubt any newbies dying N1. They're easy pickings. Especially if an IC is in the mafia.
People like Mroz4k on the other hand, *phew*, it's gonna be risky.
Though you would risk a TP on them N1, and they're probably protect anyways, so they might hit a newbie, but it all comes down to WIFOM.

[Chilly1234]

Stop baiting, it hurts my brain

[Mroz4k]

Also, guys, please remind me again why we are not claiming witched?

This sounds like a bad idea. If you are Town, you really should claim Witched, you should claim all your real night results, aka Roleblocked, transported, etc. If nobody claims witched, we know evil role got witched, but by not claiming witched we are setting ourselves for less information early on. Who was witched and trying to figure out why can help a lot in deducing who is who, so its an important information. Sure, Mafia and Witch can use this to find themselves, however knowing a Mafia member as a Witch does not help them all that much, just tells them who not to control but thats pretty much all. Much more dangerous will be Mafia, finding the Witch and contacting them.

If Witch finds Mafia it might not be a bad thing too, because they might try to notify each other which means they might slip and reveal themselves. Regardless, we need all the information early on that we can get, so we should definitedly claim Witched.

Dont forget, if you claim Witched as a Citizen, the Witch might assume they took over one of the more important Town roles and might control you again, wasting their actions.

[Chilly1234]

I think its to confuse the witch, but it probably isn't the best, but it has worked in the past.

[Cenas4life]

Still patiently waiting for day 2.

[KilledbySnow]

Also, guys, please remind me again why we are not claiming witched?

This sounds like a bad idea. If you are Town, you really should claim Witched, you should claim all your real night results, aka Roleblocked, transported, etc. If nobody claims witched, we know evil role got witched, but by not claiming witched we are setting ourselves for less information early on. Who was witched and trying to figure out why can help a lot in deducing who is who, so its an important information. Sure, Mafia and Witch can use this to find themselves, however knowing a Mafia member as a Witch does not help them all that much, just tells them who not to control but thats pretty much all. Much more dangerous will be Mafia, finding the Witch and contacting them.

If Witch finds Mafia it might not be a bad thing too, because they might try to notify each other which means they might slip and reveal themselves. Regardless, we need all the information early on that we can get, so we should definitedly claim Witched.

Dont forget, if you claim Witched as a Citizen, the Witch might assume they took over one of the more important Town roles and might control you again, wasting their actions.

Unless Mafia rolls a Blackmailer,Witch will have a hard time getting in touch and obtaining all identities of Mafia members.

[jakob12341]

Oh don't worry jakob, I'll probably fuck up even harder than last time. Especially this time.

please don't -_- (cri evrytim)

Also, guys, please remind me again why we are not claiming witched?

This sounds like a bad idea. If you are Town, you really should claim Witched, you should claim all your real night results, aka Roleblocked, transported, etc. If nobody claims witched, we know evil role got witched, but by not claiming witched we are setting ourselves for less information early on. Who was witched and trying to figure out why can help a lot in deducing who is who, so its an important information. Sure, Mafia and Witch can use this to find themselves, however knowing a Mafia member as a Witch does not help them all that much, just tells them who not to control but thats pretty much all. Much more dangerous will be Mafia, finding the Witch and contacting them.

If Witch finds Mafia it might not be a bad thing too, because they might try to notify each other which means they might slip and reveal themselves. Regardless, we need all the information early on that we can get, so we should definitedly claim Witched.

Dont forget, if you claim Witched as a Citizen, the Witch might assume they took over one of the more important Town roles and might control you again, wasting their actions.

I'd rather not risk it but it depends on what the majority thinks about this because I've tried it all the other games (almost)

but so far I've seen people don't want to put this stragedy on here
it could make us avoid getting witched because you know if the witch did control a mafia and the mafia pretended to be witched then the witch would already know 2 mafia people which would leave the town more vulnurable than before (as there's 3 mafia :/)

just hope you get my point

[KilledbySnow]

Actually,there´s 4 Mafia.

[jakob12341]

Actually,there´s 4 Mafia.

3 or 4 it doesn't make that much a difference it'll still leave the town more vulnurable than before and they can just pretend another time then the witch will be sure to control a town next night :/

[chordedWhisper]

I somehow get the feeling as if Day 1 is a lot longer than I thought it would be, but that could probably just be my sleep screwing my system up.

[AaronC]

Actually,there´s 4 Mafia.

3 or 4 it doesn't make that much a difference it'll still leave the town more vulnurable than before and they can just pretend another time then the witch will be sure to control a town next night :/

True. If I get witched I am straight up letting the town know. Keeping it hidden is a scummy move.

(Everyone makes such long posts. I feel so embarrassed)

[Chilly1234]

Only Mroz writes long posts.


Others just quote posts to answer things, so it's different

[melanora]

... Someone had better have this mess
cleaned up by the time we wake up!

Night 1 Begins!
48 Hours Remain!

Night 1 will end on Saturday August 13th at 2:00 PM EST.

Please send me all night actions with the subject NFM26 Night Action
Mafia Chat has been unlocked.

[melanora]

Yeah, hey Bob?

**

Yeah I know, you cleaned up that dead body on my lawn, right, about that.

**

... We're gonna need another clean up crew.


Swordsworth was killed by the Mafia.
Swordsworth was Town Citizen.


Day 2 Begins!
120 Hours Remain!

Day 2 will end on Thursday August 18th at 3:00 PM EST.

[Chilly1234]

I slept peacefully.


Well that clearly isn't suspicious..