[Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Game Over | Mafia/Witch Win

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[Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Game Over | Mafia/Witch Win

Postby Metrion » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:02 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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Opening Notes:

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Invest Results
Spoiler: Your target is totally ordinary. Citizen/Godfather
Your target pays great attention to detail. Lookout/Blackmailer/Bodyguard/Agent
Your target cares about the well being of others. Doctor/Sheriff/Mafioso/Witch
Your target is secretive with their information. Investigator/Consigliere/Medium/Janitor
Your target reacts based on others movements. Escort/Marshal/Vigilante/Consort
Your target cannot be trusted. Transporter/Veteran/Framer


Sheriff Results
Spoiler: Your target is Not Suspicious.
Your target is a member of the Mafia!

Unique roles
Spoiler: Transporter, Veteran, Godfather, Mafioso, Witch.

Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative (Investigator/Lookout/Sheriff)
Town Protective (Marshal/Bodyguard/Doctor)
Town Support (Medium/Escort/Transporter)
Town Killing (Vigilante/Veteran)

Mafia Head (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support (Consort/Consigliere/Agent)
Mafia Deception (Janitor/Framer)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby Metrion » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:04 pm

Rolelist:
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Support
Random Mafia
Random Mafia


Witch


Playerlist:
  1. Unorthodox1337 Liuhh
  2. suckable
  3. Varanus chordedWhisper
  4. ok98161 JackoDerp pucca25
  5. Sevohaseth
  6. SarahSaurus MaccaMania
  7. ladd Ozymandiass deferentsheep cookieclicker33
  8. Gregriff321
  9. HappyMatt369
  10. mihail66
  11. TandJ50
  12. Lexiam ToSPlayerre
  13. TheForgot3n1
  14. TheCow slantslantslant
  15. parkerparkour expertnoob10
  16. teamalex Kmenx Fergy123

ISOs:
TrueGent [Moderator]
Unorthodox1337 Liuhh
suckable
Varanus chordedWhisper
ok98161 JackoDerp pucca25
Sevohaseth
SarahSaurus MaccaMania
ladd Ozymandiass deferentsheep cookieclicker33
Gregriff321
HappyMatt369
mihail66
TandJ50
Lexiam ToSPlayerre
TheForgot3n1
TheCow slantslantslant
parkerparkour expertnoob10
teamalex Kmenx Fergy123

Graveyard
Gregriff321 - Killed by the Mafia Night 1 (Citizen)
Sevohaseth - Lynched by the Town Day 2 (Citizen)
Varanus - Killed by the Mafia Night 2 (Citizen)
Unorthodox1337 - Killed by a Vigilante Night 2 (Citizen)
HappyMatt369 - Lynched by the Town Day 3 (Godfather)
teamalex - Killed by the Mafia Night 3 (Escort)


Timeline of Events
Day 2 Start (change it to whatever you want)
Day 3 Start (Unorthodox Baking)
Day 4 Start (A real team effort)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby Metrion » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:09 pm

TrueGent will be sending out rolecards/confirmations. Please reply to them, once everyone has replied the game will start. You have 36 hours to reply from this message or your spot will be replaced with another from the queue.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TrueGent » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:22 pm

A lot of people did not confirm their rolecard, and will subsequently be replaced.
The replacements have 36 hours to respond to their rolecard.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TrueGent » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:36 am

4 people did not confirm their rolecard.
The replacements have 36 hours to respond.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TrueGent » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:12 pm

Only 3 slots remain unconfirmed.
Replacements are being given 24 hours to confirm.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TrueGent » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:34 am

"Is everything ready?"
"Yup, everythings in the trunk, just like you asked."
"Good, now get into the town and make sure no one sees you."
"Roger that boss, see you tonight."


Day 1 Begins! Day ends at 7:30am (UTC+1) on the 30th of July.
You may lynch today.
Last Wills and Death Notes will not be in play.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or Metrion.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby MaccaMania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:02 am

Hey everyone!

I don't see any familiar faces here, so it should be good playing with you all for the first time.

@Gent Are there any ICs in this game?
Sometimes it's nice to just watch the world BURN.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TrueGent » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:06 am

All players in this game are from the newbie queue.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby MaccaMania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:07 am

slantslantslant wrote:
MaccaMania wrote:Hey everyone!

I don't see any familiar faces here, so it should be good playing with you all for the first time.

@Gent Are there any ICs in this game?


What's an IC?

I can't remember what is stand for, but it means an experienced player. It counts as somebody who has completed 3 or more games. Usually the NFMs have a bunch of newbies, then a couple of ICs. I can't really recognise anyone from this game, so I don't think we have any ICs in this.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby mihail66 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:21 am

Hello this is my second forum game, in the last mafia and SK lynched me and mafia and witch almost had majority. Welp CaptainPhasma123 the transporter carried the town win.... what were the chances. Oh and also everytime I introduce myself I feel like I am in an non-anonymous alchoholics club.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby suckable » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:44 am

Hello!! This is my 3rd NFM game, and I'm hoping I can be useful because my previous reads were shit and I didn't contribute much :c
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby Fergy123 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:30 am

Hello, This is my first ever game :D
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby MaccaMania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:17 am

Alright, so this is just a point that I want to bring up.
Spoiler: We have a lynch today. I doubt that we will get any solid scumreads off shitposts, and I am not willing to PL anybody in an NFM. So we are most likely going to end up not lynching today. However, there is absolutely no point in voting for a nolynch. If we can't find a suitable lynch target for the day, then we will wait for the day to come to an end. Voting for a nolynch only lowers the amount of discussion that you can get during the day, and as most of you should know discussion is extremely important in FM. FM may have the same mechanics as TOS, but it is a very different game. FM isn't just following the power roles to freelo, it is about making reads and analysing people's posts. So discussion is crucial for the Town.
So basically, if you can't be bothered to read that, just don't vote for a no-lynch and contribute to the Town often.

Anyways, just to get the discussion rolling, what do you guys think is the most dangerous mafia setup?

Personally, I think it would be GF, Blackmailer, Consigliere and Janitor.
GF because it is confirmed, Blackmailer because it can communicate with the Witch during the day, and can even communicate with its other mafia members during the day, Consigliere because it can figure out who is who and gives the mafia an advantage on who to kill and Janitor because it opens up the claim space for Mafia and destroys the method of using PoE to find out who is scum.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby mihail66 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:48 am

MaccaMania wrote:Alright, so this is just a point that I want to bring up.
Spoiler: We have a lynch today. I doubt that we will get any solid scumreads off shitposts, and I am not willing to PL anybody in an NFM. So we are most likely going to end up not lynching today. However, there is absolutely no point in voting for a nolynch. If we can't find a suitable lynch target for the day, then we will wait for the day to come to an end. Voting for a nolynch only lowers the amount of discussion that you can get during the day, and as most of you should know discussion is extremely important in FM. FM may have the same mechanics as TOS, but it is a very different game. FM isn't just following the power roles to freelo, it is about making reads and analysing people's posts. So discussion is crucial for the Town.

Isnt shortening the discussion considered scummy and you just said how to avoid looking scummy..... Only the mafia has an advantage if we end the day with no lynch
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby Liuhh » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:53 am

Hello everyone nice to meet you, first time playing a NFM~
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby Sevohaseth » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:02 am

Hello all! I've played a few games of FM now and this will be my last game as a newbie, though this NFM is certainly very different from all the other NFMs I've played. We have a five-day day 1 with the option of lynching someone. So the first order of business will be to get active and get people talking. Don't let people fly under the radar. The mafia have not had a chance to coordinate (I assume mafia do not have day-chat?) so even if we don't lynch anyone we have five days to pressure people into acting and saying things before mafia can discuss strategy amongst themselves.

The town make-up is 11v5. A mislynch today and a town-kill tonight puts it at 9v5. So first point of discussion, what do people think of lynching today in general?
FM History Spoiler: NFM20 - Won - Lookout
FM10C - Lost - Marshal
NFM22 - Won - Consort
FM10D - Won - Citizen
SFM20 - Lost - Your Mom
NFM24 - Lost - Citizen
SFM21 - Lost - Tactical Encryptor
CFM18 - Won - Flow Sensor
NFM27 - Lost - Doctor
FM11F - Lost - Enforcer
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby MaccaMania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:07 am

mihail66 wrote:
MaccaMania wrote:Alright, so this is just a point that I want to bring up.
Spoiler: We have a lynch today. I doubt that we will get any solid scumreads off shitposts, and I am not willing to PL anybody in an NFM. So we are most likely going to end up not lynching today. However, there is absolutely no point in voting for a nolynch. If we can't find a suitable lynch target for the day, then we will wait for the day to come to an end. Voting for a nolynch only lowers the amount of discussion that you can get during the day, and as most of you should know discussion is extremely important in FM. FM may have the same mechanics as TOS, but it is a very different game. FM isn't just following the power roles to freelo, it is about making reads and analysing people's posts. So discussion is crucial for the Town.

Isnt shortening the discussion considered scummy and you just said how to avoid looking scummy..... Only the mafia has an advantage if we end the day with no lynch

That was basically what I was trying to imply. We should let the day run until the end if we don't know who to lynch, but we should never vote for a no-lynch, because that lowers the amount of discussion.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby TheForgot3n1 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:25 am

MaccaMania wrote:Anyways, just to get the discussion rolling, what do you guys think is the most dangerous mafia setup?

Personally, I think it would be GF, Blackmailer, Consigliere and Janitor.


Agreed on the worst setup here. There might be some strength in some mafioso combination, mafioso + consort + janitor, for the double roleblock and stuff.

I also noticed that
TrueGent wrote:You may lynch today.
Last Wills and Death Notes will not be in play.


Which means, TIs, please be QUICK with telling us what you've found. Any important information needs to be told to town instantly. Let's not be afraid of massclaiming early.
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Spoiler: NFM 5 - Consiglierre - LAST MAN STANDING! (Win)
NFM 23 - Witch - Salt to the RNG gods (Loss)
Game 10E - Citizen - first replace ever, first death ever (Loss)
NFM 24 - Medium - most cancerous game ever (Loss)
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NFM 30 - Marshal - the coincidences (Win)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby chordedWhisper » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:54 am

Hello there! This is my second FM game, and it's quite different from the last one I played. I see Mihail, Forgotten and Suckable from the last game, which is nice to know that there's people I can identify with.

First day lynching... AND no last wills *might* be a problem, though since I've never played on a setup like this, that's hard to tell.

Good thing that there's no SK, because otherwise we'd have two expected kills each night.

I do agree on that dangerous Mafia setup. Janitor is one of the roles I hate having in play on ToS and hate playing myself, mainly because, while opposing it, Mafia gains more room to claim, while playing it is just... eh, for my point at least.

Also, TrueGent and Metrion, my name doesn't seem to be on the playerlist. Is this an error, or was it because of replacements and such?
Also (I haven't read this anywhere but) are whispers allowed in this game?



Just a side note to the rest of the players: I'll be having limited internet access for a while, so just in case you think my inactivity is lurking/scum-like, that's the reason why. I'll try to hop on as often as I possibly can to respond and make reads, but I have no guarantees.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Preparing

Postby chordedWhisper » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:56 am

chordedWhisper wrote:Also, TrueGent and Metrion, my name doesn't seem to be on the playerlist. Is this an error, or was it because of replacements and such?

Nevermind that, it hadn't loaded for me.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Day 1 (Dusted Off)

Postby expertnoob10 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:57 am

MWell hello everyone. I have nothing to say now so bye.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Day 1 (Dusted Off)

Postby TheForgot3n1 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:08 am

cookieclicker33 wrote:When it comes to lynching, I don't think that we should lynch at all, because if we do mislynch, we would most likely mislynch everyone here is from the newbie queue, meaning we would be more likely to lynch a bad town then an obvious scum, but I'd like to use this as discussion time rather then just voting for nolynch. I'd like to hear some other opinions towards this as well.

As for the most powerful mafia team, I'm not sure, but I'd say Godfather, Mafioso, Consigliere, and Janitor.


Why do you think Blackmailer is more powerful than mafioso in that team? Double cleaning is kind of difficult to use.
Only mafia deception other than janitor is framer, also kind of useless. I definitely think mafioso is strong as hell since early game is when mafia needs to take control quickly, but not with these role pairings.
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NFM 23 - Witch - Salt to the RNG gods (Loss)
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NFM 24 - Medium - most cancerous game ever (Loss)
NFM 28 - Bodyguard - dunked Varanoose (much love man <3) (Win)
NFM 30 - Marshal - the coincidences (Win)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Day 1 (Dusted Off)

Postby Sevohaseth » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:35 am

expertnoob10 wrote:MWell hello everyone. I have nothing to say now so bye.


Boo this.
FM History Spoiler: NFM20 - Won - Lookout
FM10C - Lost - Marshal
NFM22 - Won - Consort
FM10D - Won - Citizen
SFM20 - Lost - Your Mom
NFM24 - Lost - Citizen
SFM21 - Lost - Tactical Encryptor
CFM18 - Won - Flow Sensor
NFM27 - Lost - Doctor
FM11F - Lost - Enforcer
TFM39 - Won - Titenic
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Day 1 (Dusted Off)

Postby expertnoob10 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:47 am

Sevohaseth wrote:
expertnoob10 wrote:MWell hello everyone. I have nothing to say now so bye.


Boo this.

What am I suppose to say then? im not really the "social" type so I don't know what to say most of the time.
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