Politician (Neutral Evil)

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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby Scootalootaloo » Sun May 01, 2016 9:40 pm

I do like this role in theory, although I'm not sure about the whole protection stuff and how to deal with that. I'm really not contributing anything to the conversation- just felt like bumping the thread tbh.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:28 pm

If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

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The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:42 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe


That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those :)

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:17 pm

Mace8937 wrote:
BPsycho2 wrote:If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe


That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those :)

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?



Look at the Witch and Transporter.

They have two target (other) boxes.

One is on the left, one on the right.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:25 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:
Mace8937 wrote:
BPsycho2 wrote:If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe


That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those :)

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?



Look at the Witch and Transporter.

They have two target (other) boxes.

One is on the left, one on the right.


Oh, ok thanks.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:47 pm

By the way,

back to achievements.

replace Honest Politician with Honest Abe.

Replace Remember to vote for me with remember to vote.

I know they were my ideas, just edited.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:49 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:By the way,

back to achievements.

replace Honest Politician with Honest Abe.

Replace Remember to vote for me with remember to vote.

I know they were my ideas, just edited.


Ok. Editting in a sec.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 04, 2016 7:35 pm

EDIT: Can read whispers.
Does the majority agree with this?
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 7:51 pm

I certainly agree with this.

1. It's with Spy/Bm. Anyone in this Investigation result should hear whispers.
the more whisper-hearing evils the better. Well, three is enough, provided Blackmailer gets its buff.
This way, the Spy isn't confirmed town.

2. Politicians work with secret information lore-wise too. (Balance> Lore, but this helps so why not?)

3. It gives them a solid claim.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 9:11 pm

I disagree.


Politician- Gets two votes. Politician also unconfirms the Spy now, which is necessary. The less confirmed towns the better, you know?
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 9:31 pm

Blackmailer does not hear whispers. Besides, even if it did, it wouldn't hurt for a less powerful evil role to be able to.

A Good NE has some sort of protection, some sort of way to find teammates, and some sort of offense.

Executioner (See my link)- Night Immunity, Can become any NE with witchgoals, Can lynch target
Witch: Needs Autovest(Vigpierce), Controls to find MK or NK, Controls roles to cease their progress
Necromancer: Night Immunity, Resurrect a teammate, Resurrected teammate provides offense
Chemist: Night Immunity, Gas attack [is gas immmune], Teammates can call out who they are and it's safe.
Politician: Autovest, Hears whispers, Can steal votes


Also, the Politician is unique.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 04, 2016 9:40 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
BPsycho2 wrote:Blackmailer does not hear whispers. Besides, even if it did, it wouldn't hurt for a less powerful evil role to be able to.

A Good NE has some sort of protection, some sort of way to find teammates, and some sort of offense.

Executioner (See my link)- Night Immunity, Can become any NE with witchgoals, Can lynch target
Witch: Needs Autovest(Vigpierce), Controls to find MK or NK, Controls roles to cease their progress
Necromancer: Night Immunity, Resurrect a teammate, Resurrected teammate provides offense
Chemist: Night Immunity, Gas attack [is gas immmune], Teammates can call out who they are and it's safe.
Politician: Autovest, Hears whispers, Can steal votes


It will. The devs have HARDCONFIRMED that a mafia role is due to read whispers, it's just that mobile comes first.
Also, Necro doesn't have NI, it has a scum autovest. Once again, It wouldn't hurt for a less powerful evil role to be able to

Not every role needs to have a way to find teammates. Of course not! That would break the game if town could find all of their teammates. NE's should all have a way, though. Just make reads m8 ¯\_(=•ᴥ•=)_/¯ Once again, not every person is MLG used to be #1 can make accurate reads 99.99% right.

And that emoji doesn't help your case either, unless the point of this post was to make me cringe.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Sun May 08, 2016 10:54 am

The point of this bump is that I added a new summary, and I'm wondering if the public likes it, and what should be changed about it.

(I know we're not allowed to change our roles in the Tourney now, but Kirize said we could change the lore, just that)
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Sun May 08, 2016 3:22 pm

I enjoy it the new summary.

But Summary or no Summary, this NEEDS to be put in game. Even more than Chemist, Auditor and maybe even the Necromancer.

The vote bribing gives a whole new level of gameplay, with people voting guilty confirmed town, claiming bribed,

Spy unconfirmed by this too (and with Blackmailer also getting this, Spies actually HAVE to act like a townie to be treated as such, what with mafia AND neutral having roles that read whispers)
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Tue May 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Should bribing go through when your target is jailed? Yes or No in the polls.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Tue May 10, 2016 9:38 pm

Kirize12 wrote:This has two sides of the coin:
1) If other roles are not allowed to pierce the Jailor's protective custody, neither should this.
2) Jailor fucking needs a nerf.
1) There are better ways to nerf Jailor.
2) Like removing protective custody?

Yeah...gonna abstain.


I was going to go with No because of the Jailor's protective custody...

1) It's equal, yes.
2) Well, remove the profanity.
1) Yeah, like making him die when killing the Jester.
2) Or just make the Politician go through.

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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 11, 2016 2:01 pm

Oh, I will.

It doesn't need to be sprinkled everywhere.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Wed May 11, 2016 2:27 pm

It's time for me to post on this idea


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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 11, 2016 2:50 pm

JammySplodge wrote:It's time for me to post on this idea


I like it

I'm glad you support it!
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 11, 2016 3:17 pm

(Mods please don't ban me for double posting :) )
EDIT: Attributes: The bribing will not go through if your target is jailed.
Also, should it be a part of the attributes or left out but still in effect?
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Wed May 11, 2016 4:58 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Mace8937 wrote:(Mods please don't ban me for double posting :) )
EDIT: Attributes: The bribing will not go through if your target is jailed.
Also, should it be a part of the attributes or left out but still in effect?

Leave it out, put it in special attributes.


Ok I will, thanks.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed May 11, 2016 7:12 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Mace8937 wrote:(Mods please don't ban me for double posting :) )
EDIT: Attributes: The bribing will not go through if your target is jailed.
Also, should it be a part of the attributes or left out but still in effect?

Leave it out, put it in special attributes.

BPsycho2 wrote:Oh, I will.

It doesn't need to be sprinkled everywhere.

You're not my mom.



If it wasn't obvious, I'm male. the proper way to say it is "You're not my dad", but, I digress.

The whole jailed thing probably shouldn't be put into attributes at all, considering no harmful night abilities work on the jailed target, It would probably be assumed.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby BPsycho2 » Fri May 13, 2016 6:56 am

I was talking about myself.

I was addressed to as a woman by you. Insolence isn't tolerated.

Anyways, cease this, and any further comments should be about the amazing role idea in question.
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Fri May 13, 2016 6:59 am

BPsycho2 wrote:Insolence isn't tolerated

You sound like a strict teacher
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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil)

Postby Mace8937 » Sun May 22, 2016 11:45 am

JustSomeOtherGuy wrote:I take it Montgomery/Millicent Moneybags would be the skins for this? (Funnily enough Politician is a card game role, image looks just like Montgomery but apparently it isn't him (illuminati) so yeah, that's neato)

/support, anyway

Can you explain why you support it?
And what errors I might need to correct?
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