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Change Word in Jester Message

Postby SarahSaurus » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:21 pm

When a jester is lynched, that message pops up: "The Jester will get his revenge from the grave!" I noticed that this doesn't change to say "her revenge" for female players. I'm pretty sure other messages like "We found SarahSaurus dead in her home last night. She was stabbed by a Serial Killer" do change based on the gender of your character skin. So I know this is a really tiny thing, and it's not super important, but maybe at some point for the sake of consistency could you guys consider changing the jester message based on gender as well?
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby MaccaMania » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:57 pm

I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"

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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby SarahSaurus » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:00 pm

MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"

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But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Technetium » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:03 pm

SarahSaurus wrote:
MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"

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But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.

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It's the closest thing English has to a gender-neutral singular pronoun...
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Megalomancer » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:28 pm

Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Harkonnen97 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:12 pm

Off-topic: I wonder why does the Jester wants revenge in the first place? His goal is to get lynched, so why does he wants to kill one of the people that helped him achieve his goal?
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Technetium » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:13 pm

It's the other way around, the revenge is not for dying, he wants to die because that's how he gets revenge for something that happened before the game started. Whatever that might be.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby JazzMusicStops » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:57 am

matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Kittenn1011 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:22 am

Technetium wrote:
SarahSaurus wrote:
MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"

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But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.

GRAMMAR NAZI SIEG HEIL
It's the closest thing English has to a gender-neutral singular pronoun...


Some style guides are beginning to accept it as a gender-neutral singular pronoun. I believe APA (American Psychological Association) has started accepting its use.

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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Mroz4k » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:35 am

Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not. :)
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Technetium » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:35 am

Mroz4k wrote:Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not. :)

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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby SarahSaurus » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:32 am

I'm pretty sure that grammatically, you're supposed to say his or her. If the gender is unspecified, you're supposed to say "his/her", not "their".

On topic: You could just remove "his", whatever. Either way it would probably only take a couple minutes. Just something I noticed in the game and for the sake of consistency, figured I'd point it out.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby JazzMusicStops » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:46 am

SarahSaurus wrote:I'm pretty sure that grammatically, you're supposed to say his or her. If the gender is unspecified, you're supposed to say "his/her", not "their".

On topic: You could just remove "his", whatever. Either way it would probably only take a couple minutes. Just something I noticed in the game and for the sake of consistency, figured I'd point it out.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/their
dictionary.com wrote:pronoun
1.
a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun:
their home; their rights as citizens; their departure for Rome.
2.
(used after an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine form his or the definite feminine form her):
Someone left their book on the table. Did everyone bring their lunch?

Singular they/their/them is grammatically correct
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Megalomancer » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:25 am

matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Technetium » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:28 am

matthew8367 wrote:
matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
Technetium wrote:
Mroz4k wrote:Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not. :)

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matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.

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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby shapesifter13 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:14 pm

Something we should probably change. Good catch. I will put it on the list of things to do.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Harkonnen97 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:29 pm

Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby Megalomancer » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:38 pm

Harkonnen97 wrote:Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"


Remove "himself" as well :roll:
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby MaccaMania » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:46 pm

Yeah I agree to just take out the his for the Mayor and Jester message.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby orangeandblack5 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:56 am

Just have it based on skin like everything else. No need to get all technical when having it work the same way as death messages is fine.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby SarahSaurus » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:18 am

matthew8367 wrote:
Harkonnen97 wrote:Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"


Remove "himself" as well :roll:


Didn't even notice this one, but yeah they could change it too.
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Re: Change Word in Jester Message

Postby YuriGirl » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:28 pm

SarahSaurus wrote:
MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"

/support


But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.


Usage of singular they dates back to the 14th century and it is only a very recent and seemingly nonsensical push since the 19th century to classify it as grammatically incorrect. No one cared for half a millennium and it's just as proper now as it was then.
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