Undertaker (Neutral Benign) (5000+ views!!)

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Undertaker (Neutral Benign) (5000+ views!!)

Postby DankaldTrump » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:23 pm

Role Name: Undertaker.

Role Alignment: Neutral Benign.

Unique Role?: Yes.

Summary: You are a lonesome man, in charge of burying the dead.

Goal: Bury 3 people in the game, then leave the town without a trace.

Ability: Select someone each night to try to bury them.

Attributes:

-- If the person you selected dies the same night or the next day via lynching, they will be "buried" by you. -- (if death is prevented via doc, bg etc. ,that will NOT count as a burial.)
-- If you bury 3 people, you will win, regardless of who else wins. --
-- A buried person cannot be disguised, or revived. --
-- Jesters that are buried, cannot haunt someone, even if their goal was accomplished. --
-- If you bury someone with a cleaned role, you will still know their role and have access to their will. --
-- After the goal is met, you will "leave the town". --
( When you leave the town, it is like death, your avatar will not be present and you can talk in dead chat.)

Extra Attributes: Has night immunity (Can still be killed by roles that pierce night immunity).

Win Conditions: Wins with everyone, as long as you bury 3 people.

Sheriff Text: Your target is not suspicious.

Investigator Text: Your target works with dead bodies, he could be a Medium,Janitor, or an Undertaker.

Consigliere Text: Your target buries the dead, he must be an Undertaker!

Notifications: Spoiler: " You have successfully buried your target!"
"Your have buried enough people! You have left the town!"
"*username* has mysteriously vanished from the town!" ( Message in the morning when you leave the town)


Story: Spoiler: Working the graveyard shift, the Undertaker sees his next burials, a large pile of dead bodies brought to him by a recent massacre by the mafia. "This is going to be a long night" he sighs as start to get to work, digging graves under the light of the full moon.

Hour by hour, he repeats the process, digging a 6 ft. hole in the ground, loading the lifeless body into the casket, lowering the casket into the dark hole, refilling the hole with the dirt, and finally topped it off with a headstone and a black rose. Nobody before him even thought about doing this dark and lonesome job. But someone had to do it, when he heard about the job opening, he volunteered, he did it because, " there was nothing better to do in my life".

He was almost done, there was one body left. However, his eyes opened wide and his jaw dropped when he saw who it was, his best friend, a Vigilante. While normally he is a grim and emotionless man, the Undertaker allowed some tears to well up and eventually fall from his grey eyes. But he quickly wiped them off his face and proceeded to do the same burial process he does to all the other bodies, but, instead of putting a black rose on his headstone, he put a single red rose on it, before the sun finally came up.

He started to walk back to his house for the day, but then, he suddenly turned around and looked at all the headstones, which lined up far and wide, then he gazed at his deceased best friend's stone....

"Rest in peace" he said to the stone before he walked away into the sunlight.


Achievements: Spoiler: -- Rest in peace: Win your first game as an Undertaker. --
-- 6 feet under: Win five games as an Undertaker. --
-- Tombstone frenzy: Win ten games as an Undertaker. --
-- Gravedigger: Win twenty-five games as an Undertaker. --
-- Shots from the grave: Bury a member of the mafia. --
-- Hell's fury: Bury an arsonist. --
-- Oh the irony: Bury the medium. --


Edit: Super important note: You can NOT bury someone who has left the game during the day before!

Edit: Yet another important note: If you complete your goal during the day via lynch, you will leave the town the next night and have brackets around your name to signal others to not waste a night by visiting you.

Additional Notes: This role is basically a game of prediction, you got to predict who is going to die that night, or who is going to get lynched the next day, you also have to worry about getting lynched because someone found out you were immune at night. I believe it would be a fun and challenging role to play in Town Of Salem.

So tell me what you think. Thanks for viewing my role! Cheers! :mrgreen:

Edit 3/3/16: Thank you so so so much for helping this role idea to reach an awesome 1K views within just a couple of months, I am very proud of this role idea and I am glad I have the support of many! I someday hope to see this role where it belongs, in the actual game itself. Again, thank you and don't forget to hit that "perfect" button in the poll! Cheers :mrgreen:
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:46 pm

I like it.
Problems:
Name could be better (name it Dampe please ;))
4 people seems like too much. You don't see a Doctor do that stuff. I say three would still be fairly difficult.
Kingmakers are bad. It should commit suicide the next night after they achieve their goal.
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Will you be notified if you buried someone?
Will you still bury someone if their death is prevented via BG, Doctor, Jailing, or immunity?

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:53 pm

oliy wrote:I like it.
Problems:
Name could be better (name it Dampe please ;))
4 people seems like too much. You don't see a Doctor do that stuff. I say three would still be fairly difficult.
Kingmakers are bad. It should commit suicide the next night after they achieve their goal.
Question:
Will you be notified if you buried someone?
Will you still bury someone if their death is prevented via BG, Doctor, Jailing, or immunity?


Yes you will be notified when you buried someone.
If a death is prevented on the person you selected, that does not count as a burial ( I will edit that in)
I guess I could lower the requirement to 3 people. ( I will edit that in to)

Hmmmm... Interesting note on the suicide after goal is meet, I will think on it.(edited it in a cooler way of leaving the town)

But I like the name... If others want it changed, I guess I will change it.

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it :D
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:00 pm

Name suggestions:
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:13 pm

Quick question, would you guys prefer the goal to be to bury 2 or 3 people in the game?
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:17 pm

DankaldTrump wrote:Quick question, would you guys prefer the goal to be to bury 2 or 3 people in the game?

3 because it factors lynches and executions in.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Deldris » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:06 am

I like it but there should be a different name for this role.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:08 am

Deldris wrote:I like it but there should be a different name for this role.

Spoiler: AND ITS NAME IS JOHN CENA!


Do do do dooooooo :lol:
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby mdb1023 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:56 am

Do you basically want to add a role that's based on luck? Um how about no. There's already enough luck involved in winning as neutral killing roles, let's just keep it that way.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby kookeekwisp » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:37 am

I feel like this should be neural evil & have it clean targets, unless lynched (troll edit :D)

/support

mdb1023 wrote:Do you basically want to add a role that's based on luck? Um how about no. There's already enough luck involved in winning as neutral killing roles, let's just keep it that way.

If luck is "choosing someone who's dying" then lookout, doctor, bodyguard, jailor etc...
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:40 am

mdb1023 wrote:Do you basically want to add a role that's based on luck? Um how about no. There's already enough luck involved in winning as neutral killing roles, let's just keep it that way.


Not really much luck, but prediction and strategy.

For example, if you know the mafia is going to target someone, or the jailor will execute someone that night, or someone is going to get lynched the next day, then its quite easy as you can "bury" the victim of said execution, shooting, or lynching. Let me remind you you can also make alliances twords the end of the game with the killing role(s) (I.e: the mafia or the sk or an arsonist, or even the town) to have certain people killed on a certain night (I.e: you agree with the mafia to have player #5 killed on a certain night and you bury them on said night ). Let me also remind you that you dont have to worry about the mafia or SK killing you at night because you have night immunity (the only killing role you have to worry about is the WW).Note, you can play as an exe, and lie and tell the townspeople that player X is a mafia member (faking as sheriff/invest).Finally, another thing, is if you are playing the Undertaker, on night 1, you should choose ethier player #1 or someone with a funny name as they (almost) always die that night.

What I am trying to say is, it actually 90% strategy, 10% luck, hoped this explanation helped, cheers! :D

P.S: All the roles in TOS require a certain degree of luck, not trying to make you mad, just saying. :)
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:54 am

kookeekwisp wrote:I feel like this should be neural evil & have it clean targets, unless lynched (troll edit :D)

/support


Thank you for the support! :D

And lol on the troll edit :lol:
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby MrNSAagent » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:46 pm

DankaldTrump wrote:Role Name: Undertaker
-- 6 feet under: Win five games as an Undertaker. --


Make the achievement requirement be six games. (Get it? SIX feet under? SIX games? lol!)
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:28 pm

Please allow revoting ;_;
I still think the name needs a bit of work.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby IceKholdStare » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:30 pm

Seems like a bit of fun, but it's lacking, "something."
Luck-based roles (like lookout) are brutal and often boring.

Would selecting a target count as visiting? It seems more like an amnesiac picking a new role, except the target is alive.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:13 pm

MrNSAagent wrote:
DankaldTrump wrote:Role Name: Undertaker
-- 6 feet under: Win five games as an Undertaker. --


Make the achievement requirement be six games. (Get it? SIX feet under? SIX games? lol!)


*Facepalm* why didn't I think of that, I will edit it in. :lol:
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:14 pm

oliy wrote:Please allow revoting ;_;
I still think the name needs a bit of work.


Come on, why aren't you digging the name? I think it is alright. :|
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Sakkaku » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:32 pm

Suggestion Changes:

-Can only Clean dead
-Change name to Grave Digger
-Change attributes to "steals the content of the graves, etc"
-Neutral Evil Instead of Benign
-N1 he can't do anything
-Grave Digger has priority over Retrib

-- If you bury someone with a cleaned role, you will still know their role and have access to their will. --
-- After the goal is met, you will "leave the town". --
( When you leave the town, it is like death, your avatar will not be present and you can talk in dead chat.)

Get rid of that

So I can see him as like a janitor for the dead. Makes it so Town have to remember everyone's role and is a Hard counter to Retrib games.

I like it. It seems like it would be a good addition to the Neutral Evils.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:36 pm

Sakkaku wrote:Suggestion Changes:

-Change name to Grave Digger
-Change attributes to "steals the content of the graves, etc"
-Neutral Evil Instead of Benign
-Make it 4 people instead of 3 (or n1 he can't do anything)
-Grave Digger has priority over Retrib

-- If you bury someone with a cleaned role, you will still know their role and have access to their will. --
-- After the goal is met, you will "leave the town". --
( When you leave the town, it is like death, your avatar will not be present and you can talk in dead chat.)

Get rid of that

Other than that, I like it. It seems like it would be a good addition to the Neutral Evils

Pls no ;_;
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I could call it necromancer, but the name has so much more potential, and I made one like it.
That's why I'm avoiding that name.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Sakkaku » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:41 pm

Well, i think it would be a great concept for a Neutral Evil Role.

I might make another post later on about it then.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:48 pm

:)
IceKholdStare wrote:Seems like a bit of fun, but it's lacking, "something."
Luck-based roles (like lookout) are brutal and often boring.


OK, I'm going to direct you to a previous post that was in response to a comment that said the exact same thing :

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DankaldTrump wrote:Not really much luck, but prediction and strategy.

For example, if you know the mafia is going to target someone, or the jailor will execute someone that night, or someone is going to get lynched the next day, then its quite easy as you can "bury" the victim of said execution, shooting, or lynching. Let me remind you you can also make alliances twords the end of the game with the killing role(s) (I.e: the mafia or the sk or an arsonist, or even the town) to have certain people killed on a certain night (I.e: you agree with the mafia to have player #5 killed on a certain night and you bury them on said night ). Let me also remind you that you dont have to worry about the mafia or SK killing you at night because you have night immunity (the only killing role you have to worry about is the WW).Note, you can play as an exe, and lie and tell the townspeople that player X is a mafia member (faking as sheriff/invest).Finally, another thing, is if you are playing the Undertaker, on night 1, you should choose ethier player #1 or someone with a funny name as they (almost) always die that night.

What I am trying to say is, it actually 90% strategy, 10% luck, hoped this explanation helped, cheers! :D

P.S: All the roles in TOS require a certain degree of luck, not trying to make you mad, just saying. :)


In addition, I came up with an extra strategy:

Since you come up as a medium, janitor, or undertaker on investigator results, when you have to bury 1 more person, you can claim medium and say the dead chat said person X (the person you selected the night before) is mafia, best case scenario, they Lynch player X, you bury player X, you win.

IceKholdStare wrote:Luck-based roles (like lookout) are brutal and often boring.


Hey now, I personally (like many others) like lookout. Also other "luck based roles" like exe or jester are very fun as you can combine strategy to manipulate the odds of you winning, and these type of roles have made it into the favourites list of mine and many others.

What I am trying to say is, my role is not strictly luck based, it is mostly a matter of strategy combined with a little bit of luck, and I can 100% assure you, playing as an Undertaker will not be by any means boring, but very fun and challenging.

IceKholdStare wrote:Would selecting a target count as visiting? It seems more like an amnesiac picking a new role, except the target is the target is alive.


No, selecting a target would NOT count as a visit.

Daytime amnesiac?? How is it a daytime amnesiac?? You are not gaining there role, just "burying the corpse". It doesn't say anywhere in the attributes section about becoming their role.

IceKholdStare wrote: Seems like a bit of fun, but it's lacking, "something."


For the sake of making this role better, WHAT is this "something" you are talking about? I can't help you if you don't tell me what this "something" is.

Lastly, I am very sorry for getting to you so late, I was very busy the last couple of days :)

I hope this has helped you better understand the undertaker role, thank you for reading this. :D
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:52 pm

Sakkaku wrote:Suggestion Changes:

-Can only Clean dead
-Change name to Grave Digger
-Change attributes to "steals the content of the graves, etc"
-Neutral Evil Instead of Benign
-N1 he can't do anything
-Grave Digger has priority over Retrib

-- If you bury someone with a cleaned role, you will still know their role and have access to their will. --
-- After the goal is met, you will "leave the town". --
( When you leave the town, it is like death, your avatar will not be present and you can talk in dead chat.)

Get rid of that

So I can see him as like a janitor for the dead. Makes it so Town have to remember everyone's role and is a Hard counter to Retrib games.

I like it. It seems like it would be a good addition to the Neutral Evils.


I get your concept, but I am just not digging it, I don't like the concept of hard counters, sorry, I hope you understand. :(
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:54 pm

oliy wrote:
Sakkaku wrote:Suggestion Changes:

-Change name to Grave Digger
-Change attributes to "steals the content of the graves, etc"
-Neutral Evil Instead of Benign
-Make it 4 people instead of 3 (or n1 he can't do anything)
-Grave Digger has priority over Retrib

-- If you bury someone with a cleaned role, you will still know their role and have access to their will. --
-- After the goal is met, you will "leave the town". --
( When you leave the town, it is like death, your avatar will not be present and you can talk in dead chat.)

Get rid of that

Other than that, I like it. It seems like it would be a good addition to the Neutral Evils

Pls no ;_;
I have a fairly good role called Gravedigger.
I could call it necromancer, but the name has so much more potential, and I made one like it.
That's why I'm avoiding that name.


Besides, IMO, Undertaker seems like a lot cooler of a name then Grave-Digger, which is why I did not name it that.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:56 pm

Sakkaku wrote:Well, i think it would be a great concept for a Neutral Evil Role.

I might make another post later on about it then.


Do tell eventually.....I am interested in what you have to say.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:46 am

DankaldTrump wrote:-- 6 feet under: Win six games as an Undertaker. --

This is clever and funny
However, for the sake of consistency, it should be 5 games
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